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re: New Arkansas AD very critical of coaching buyouts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:41 am to Jack Daniel
Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:41 am to Jack Daniel
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What competent coach would agree to a contract that states losing games voids the buyout?
Pay large salaries up front that are based on performance.
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Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:43 am to 1999
Be curious to see Morris' contract setup.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:43 am to cardboardboxer
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You either pay to play, or hide behind virtue signaling that your program is too good to keep up.
Time for cardboardboxer to get serious 
Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:43 am to arkiebrian
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Pay large salaries up front that are based on performance.
Based on performance at other schools? You'd have to be the dumbest AD in history to assume past performance at a different school guarantees future results at your school to the point you pay out millions up front for it.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:44 am to 1999
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“We’ve got to get a handle on coach contracts and the buyouts,” Yurachek said. “To me, losing football games is being terminated with cause. The protection sometimes that coaches are provided within their contracts to me is ludicrous. I want to be a leader in this industry in how we write our coaches contracts moving forward so that there’s not 100 percent guaranteed protection for their contracts.”
I'm no Arkansas fan, but I like their new AD.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:44 am to BamaHog
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They've had all the leverage. I think he's suggesting it's time for schools to take some of that back.
How would you propose that? Universities would have to collude, which either creates a lawsuit or incentives greatly some desperate programs like A&M to break ranks to get an advantage.
It is the same problem with a "Superconference" theory- no one has the power to enforce it. College football is the wild west and people like it that way.
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All bubbles burst eventually.
The TV bubble might burst eventually, but we are years away from that seeing as how almost every conference is locked into a longterm contract.
Attendance is dropping overall, but that just reinforces how important coaching performance is and therefore how high coaching salaries can get.
Without getting political the Arky AD is basically like one of those Green Party people who want to raise taxes on the rich to pay for all their pet programs without realizing that the rich can dodge taxes better than the average man so the average man will absorb almost any tax increase. The plan won't work, but it sounds good.
The world can't always be what you want it to be, sometime you have to take it as it is. If I was an Arky fan I would be worried about this dude politicking and bragging about how they won't overpay for coaches when his new coach is wanting to overpay the Clemson DC to get him.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:45 am to cardboardboxer
To me it's not even about the money. It's the fact that a coach can make the same amount of money by sitting at home as they can by winning games.
People only need so much money to live comfortably. At some point most people question whether it's worth it to spend even more time away from their families on the slim chance that that extra time translates to more wins and thus more money.
How hard would you work at your job if you were guaranteed your next 10 years of salary even if you got fired for poor performance?
People only need so much money to live comfortably. At some point most people question whether it's worth it to spend even more time away from their families on the slim chance that that extra time translates to more wins and thus more money.
How hard would you work at your job if you were guaranteed your next 10 years of salary even if you got fired for poor performance?
Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:45 am to RT1941
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Yeah, I don't get that part either. Surely he knows what Arky paid xCBB?
Why is everyone under the assumption that he doesn't have an issue with this as well. He was the AD at Houston before this. He is using an example that was close to him.
I guess we all wanted him to go through every bad coach buyout that was established.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:47 am to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
And maybe that's why they ended up with a unproven coach with a losing record in the AAC. If he goes on to be successful they'll have to pay up and guarantee his contract or someone else will, that horse is out of the barn.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:47 am to agrunner
The BMAs the A&M AD answered to are paying that money to Sumlin. As long as the coaching money is coming from private sources, the contracts will be huge at schools where the alumni want to win.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:48 am to dbeck
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How hard would you work at your job if you were guaranteed your next 10 years of salary even if you got fired for poor performance?
Not very, but I am not the kind of guy who would be paid that kind of money to coach college football.
The guys who can get that kind of contract are ego maniacs, and their goal is to be paid even MORE money in a few years after they have all this success they think they are going to have.
Is Saban unmotivated despite having a contract that has him and his children and his grandchildren set for life? No way.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:49 am to 1999
tFlagship leading the way yet again
Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:49 am to TxWadingFool
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And maybe that's why they ended up with a unproven coach with a losing record in the AAC. If he goes on to be successful they'll have to pay up and guarantee his contract or someone else will, that horse is out of the barn.
You just totally missed his whole point because the line about A&M/Sumlin upset you.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:56 am to agrunner
He's got a valid point but tell that to the agents you have to deal with. They could care less. To me, when you are making $5 million plus a year and are fired because you didn't win enough, the buyout number is ridiculous. Until Presidents and AD's say enough, and stop the ridiculous salaries on top of buyouts it won't change.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:59 am to agrunner
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He's not wrong. Our last AD fricked us.
Didn't your new AD just fully guarantee Fisher's 75 million dollar deal? Doesnt sound like he learned anything
Posted on 12/6/17 at 12:00 pm to BM41
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As long as the coaching money is coming from private sources, the contracts will be huge at schools where the alumni want to win.
You seem to be under the impression people will keep throwing money.
College coaching is getting more like the NFL where turnover is incredible.
If you think the pockets are bottomless, you're going to be very upset if Jimbo doesn't pan out in 2-3 years.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 12:00 pm to cardboardboxer
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If I was an Arky fan I would be worried about this dude politicking and bragging about how they won't overpay for coaches when his new coach is wanting to overpay the Clemson DC to get him.
I'm not- he didn't say anything about how much they were paid, he talked about contracts and them getting guaranteed money for nothing.
Doesn't bother me in the slightest.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 12:01 pm to TxWadingFool
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Bitching about someone paying 10 million while ignoring your new employer just paid someone nearly 12 million to go away?
He was obviously also criticizing what Long and the rest of the administration did with Bert dumbass
This post was edited on 12/6/17 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 12/6/17 at 12:01 pm to dbeck
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How hard would you work at your job if you were guaranteed your next 10 years of salary even if you got fired for poor performance?
If you were an employee that many people wanted, would you go to work where you were guaranteed a huge salary for 10 years, or would you want to renegotiate every year? This is why these types of coaches go to the schools that can/will pay.
Good luck getting a big name to turn down guaranteed money for an incentive-based or shorter term deal.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 12:02 pm to PrivatePublic
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He's not wrong about them being out of control, but no decent coach is going to go coach a program where losing a game gets you fired.
Football is a ZERO SUM GAME. Somebody HAS TO LOSE.
Don't think he meant that 100% literally
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