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re: Most overrated Coach in SEC history is Shug Jordan.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:18 pm to Frac the world
Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:18 pm to Frac the world
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There’s that classic barn victim complex
Meanwhile. Here comes Opry and his minions telling us about the evil aubrins.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:20 pm to BigTastey
Not surprised Auburn coach rode in a pile of junk. Sullivan stayed because he was being paid by Auburn.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:20 pm to TheFourHorsemen
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Guy only won 1 SEC title in 25 years in 57.
Didn't he end up going against Neyland and Bryant?
Dye didn't come close to facing coaches at that tier. Dye milked an era of Alabama on the decline (though full props to his teams still being great - just not sure he has the same success if he was against Bryant, considering Auburn dropped like a rock the moment Stallings came on at Alabama).
Dye was a good coach, but he definitely had the benefit of most of his success coming when Alabama was in the Perkins/Curry era.
Record after Stallings arrives at Alabama:
18-14-2 (8-12-2 conference play)
Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:21 pm to 14caratgoldjones
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I don’t know why the game was on a hiatus for years, but I’d like to.
It originally started over an argument regarding reimbursement for travel.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:22 pm to Uatu
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Shug Jordan refused to bend the knee to Alabama. For that, he will remain a great SEC coach. I don’t know how old you are, but when I was younger, the deck was always stacked against Auburn when it came to Bama. Shug was a major influence in ending that inequity.
Agree.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:23 pm to Bill Parker?
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Shug...candidate for the SEC all-name team.
That sounds like a good off-season July topic -
the SEC has had its fair share of unique names...from Nacho ( Albergamo) to Bumper (Pool)!!
Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:23 pm to Uatu
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Birmingham might as well be West Tuscaloosa
Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:24 pm to Uatu
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Birmingham might as well be West Tuscaloosa
Somebody has to move.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:37 pm to TheFourHorsemen
How high was he actually rated though, that’s the question.
Lane Kiffin to me is currently the most overrated SEC coach. He’s not terrible, but people talk about him like he’s some crazy coaching genius and he only just got his 4th P5 10 win season last year. Again, not terrible, but nowhere near enough to earn the rep he has.
And while he doesn’t have as many coaching years as BK or Saban, he’s no spring chicken either.
Lane Kiffin to me is currently the most overrated SEC coach. He’s not terrible, but people talk about him like he’s some crazy coaching genius and he only just got his 4th P5 10 win season last year. Again, not terrible, but nowhere near enough to earn the rep he has.
And while he doesn’t have as many coaching years as BK or Saban, he’s no spring chicken either.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 2:06 pm to TheFourHorsemen
Some years were unbalanced schedules.
Take 1972 for instance.
We played Georgia Tech.
Bama played Vanderbilt.
We lost 1 SEC game to LSU, but since GT had left the league, Bama won the league at 6-1 with a loss to Auburn.
Shug was a great man. A man’s man.
Most of these modern coaches would not understand what’s it’s like to land in North Africa, Sicily, Normandy and Okinawa.
Bear said,”Shug has more courage in his little finger than I have in my whole body.”
Take 1972 for instance.
We played Georgia Tech.
Bama played Vanderbilt.
We lost 1 SEC game to LSU, but since GT had left the league, Bama won the league at 6-1 with a loss to Auburn.
Shug was a great man. A man’s man.
Most of these modern coaches would not understand what’s it’s like to land in North Africa, Sicily, Normandy and Okinawa.
Bear said,”Shug has more courage in his little finger than I have in my whole body.”
Posted on 7/10/24 at 3:28 pm to TN Tygah
Spot on..not buying the Ole Miss hype..til they beat a team with starters playing
Posted on 7/10/24 at 4:15 pm to Uatu
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When was the first time Bama played AT Auburn?
1989.
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I know the Iron Bowl was “neutral” at Legion Field, but most people with common sense know that Birmingham might as well be West Tuscaloosa when it comes to Alabama athletics.
1. B'ham is northeast of Tuscaloosa.
2. Outside of the Iron Bowl, Auburn probably averaged one home game a year at Legion Field from 1950-1979. Played teams like Tennessee and Georgia Tech there quite a bit during that span.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 4:20 pm to TheFourHorsemen
No that would be Dooley.
Look what he did outside the Herschel years.
Good coach? Yes
Overrated? Also yes.
Look what he did outside the Herschel years.
Good coach? Yes
Overrated? Also yes.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 4:24 pm to Globetrotter747
Agreed Alabama is all Alabama
Posted on 7/10/24 at 5:41 pm to DawginSC
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My main problem with Jordan is how he pronounced his name.
Who pronounces Jordan as "Jerdan"?
For those downvoting this, even Shug's wife pronounced Jordan correctly rather than saying Jerdan.
Shug was dumb in that regard.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 6:47 pm to TheFourHorsemen
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Before posting I know he was a great and brave military man.
Auburn fans are rightfully proud pf him ... as they should be.
Those times were different.
The sheep humping sister banging taterheads worship this Alabama guy named Frank Howard. Check out Coach Howard's record sometime.
Ever wonder why the sheep humping sister banging taterheads love their Alabama coaches? Frank Howard. Danny Ford. Dabo Sweeney.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 6:53 pm to skrayper
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Dye was a good coach, but he definitely had the benefit of most of his success coming when Alabama was in the Perkins/Curry era
So you're saying that if a team doesn't count down years, their record improves?
You "only bama beats bama" people are at least consistent.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 7:40 pm to TheFourHorsemen
shug was a fine man and a fine coach, his only drawback was he coached in the Bear Bryant era. Pat Dye came around in Bama's lean years and had more success. Shug was a better coach, and made Auburn what it is today
Posted on 7/10/24 at 7:51 pm to schmoo
Cholly Mac at LSU is the same, almost two decades at LSU and 1 conference title.
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