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re: Most overrated Coach in SEC history is Shug Jordan.

Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:18 pm to
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
37564 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:18 pm to
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There’s that classic barn victim complex

Meanwhile. Here comes Opry and his minions telling us about the evil aubrins.
Posted by TheFourHorsemen
Next door to Ric Flair
Member since Jul 2021
2527 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:20 pm to
Not surprised Auburn coach rode in a pile of junk. Sullivan stayed because he was being paid by Auburn.

Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
31206 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:20 pm to
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Guy only won 1 SEC title in 25 years in 57.


Didn't he end up going against Neyland and Bryant?

Dye didn't come close to facing coaches at that tier. Dye milked an era of Alabama on the decline (though full props to his teams still being great - just not sure he has the same success if he was against Bryant, considering Auburn dropped like a rock the moment Stallings came on at Alabama).

Dye was a good coach, but he definitely had the benefit of most of his success coming when Alabama was in the Perkins/Curry era.

Record after Stallings arrives at Alabama:
18-14-2 (8-12-2 conference play)
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
31206 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:21 pm to
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I don’t know why the game was on a hiatus for years, but I’d like to.


It originally started over an argument regarding reimbursement for travel.
Posted by JetDawg
Los Angeles/USC Trojans fan/alum
Member since Oct 2020
7521 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:22 pm to
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Shug Jordan refused to bend the knee to Alabama. For that, he will remain a great SEC coach. I don’t know how old you are, but when I was younger, the deck was always stacked against Auburn when it came to Bama. Shug was a major influence in ending that inequity.

Agree.
Posted by Auburntiger
BTR area
Member since Mar 2005
13361 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:23 pm to
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Shug...candidate for the SEC all-name team.


That sounds like a good off-season July topic -

the SEC has had its fair share of unique names...from Nacho ( Albergamo) to Bumper (Pool)!!
Posted by cyde
He gone
Member since Nov 2005
31833 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:23 pm to
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Birmingham might as well be West Tuscaloosa

Posted by BillBrosky
Your wife's back door
Member since Mar 2012
2729 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:24 pm to
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Birmingham might as well be West Tuscaloosa


Somebody has to move.
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
3055 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:37 pm to
How high was he actually rated though, that’s the question.

Lane Kiffin to me is currently the most overrated SEC coach. He’s not terrible, but people talk about him like he’s some crazy coaching genius and he only just got his 4th P5 10 win season last year. Again, not terrible, but nowhere near enough to earn the rep he has.

And while he doesn’t have as many coaching years as BK or Saban, he’s no spring chicken either.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
16260 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 2:06 pm to
Some years were unbalanced schedules.

Take 1972 for instance.
We played Georgia Tech.
Bama played Vanderbilt.

We lost 1 SEC game to LSU, but since GT had left the league, Bama won the league at 6-1 with a loss to Auburn.

Shug was a great man. A man’s man.

Most of these modern coaches would not understand what’s it’s like to land in North Africa, Sicily, Normandy and Okinawa.

Bear said,”Shug has more courage in his little finger than I have in my whole body.”

Posted by TheFourHorsemen
Next door to Ric Flair
Member since Jul 2021
2527 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 3:22 pm to
Stallings was 3-0 Dye .
Posted by rtr23242526
Member since Dec 2022
3295 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 3:28 pm to
Spot on..not buying the Ole Miss hype..til they beat a team with starters playing
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
4427 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 4:15 pm to
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When was the first time Bama played AT Auburn?

1989.
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I know the Iron Bowl was “neutral” at Legion Field, but most people with common sense know that Birmingham might as well be West Tuscaloosa when it comes to Alabama athletics.

1. B'ham is northeast of Tuscaloosa.

2. Outside of the Iron Bowl, Auburn probably averaged one home game a year at Legion Field from 1950-1979. Played teams like Tennessee and Georgia Tech there quite a bit during that span.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29345 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 4:20 pm to
No that would be Dooley.

Look what he did outside the Herschel years.

Good coach? Yes
Overrated? Also yes.
Posted by rtr23242526
Member since Dec 2022
3295 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 4:24 pm to
Agreed Alabama is all Alabama
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
4932 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 5:41 pm to
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My main problem with Jordan is how he pronounced his name.

Who pronounces Jordan as "Jerdan"?


For those downvoting this, even Shug's wife pronounced Jordan correctly rather than saying Jerdan.

Shug was dumb in that regard.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
38094 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 6:47 pm to
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Before posting I know he was a great and brave military man.

Auburn fans are rightfully proud pf him ... as they should be.

Those times were different.

The sheep humping sister banging taterheads worship this Alabama guy named Frank Howard. Check out Coach Howard's record sometime.

Ever wonder why the sheep humping sister banging taterheads love their Alabama coaches? Frank Howard. Danny Ford. Dabo Sweeney.

Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
10750 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 6:53 pm to
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Dye was a good coach, but he definitely had the benefit of most of his success coming when Alabama was in the Perkins/Curry era


So you're saying that if a team doesn't count down years, their record improves?

You "only bama beats bama" people are at least consistent.
Posted by schmoo
marietta ga
Member since Jul 2017
1393 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 7:40 pm to
shug was a fine man and a fine coach, his only drawback was he coached in the Bear Bryant era. Pat Dye came around in Bama's lean years and had more success. Shug was a better coach, and made Auburn what it is today
Posted by HangmanPage1
Wild West
Member since Aug 2021
1491 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 7:51 pm to
Cholly Mac at LSU is the same, almost two decades at LSU and 1 conference title.
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