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re: Missouri's Eli Drinkwitz asking some pretty good questions about expansion...
Posted on 8/6/23 at 7:56 pm to gamecockman12
Posted on 8/6/23 at 7:56 pm to gamecockman12
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I definitely get his point but it's a bit hypocritical of him when he's at a school that left it's own regional conference for a conference with greener pastures.
Texas was the problem! That is why Nebraska took a pay cut to go the B1G. Colorada and Texas A&M. That is why Texas has been the one destroying each conference the school that have joined each one of them throughout history.
This post was edited on 8/6/23 at 8:10 pm
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Posted on 8/6/23 at 8:05 pm to deeprig9
quote:Carolina went Independent - USC did not secede from the "north carolina conference" to join another league -
Shane coaches for a team that did the same to the ACC.
in fact USC withdrew largely in a mutual understanding with the ACC that once things settled down between Big Frank/Eddie Cameron/Chuck Erickson/Lefty Driesell - USC would be readmitted -
UVA's AD assured to USC its re-entry 'at a later time' until they turned coat and started a crusade to admit Georgia Tech instead in 1978 -
Posted on 8/6/23 at 8:07 pm to TrueLefty
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Mizzou governor on Big Ten expansion: ‘We should listen’
By
John Taylor
Published December 18, 2009 12:23 PM
https://www.nbcsports.com/college-football/news/mizzou-governor-on-big-ten-expansion-we-should-listen
You were flirting with the B1G in 2009. Nebraska was too.
2010 rolls around and Texas flirts with the PAC and everyone does exactly what they wanted to do and blame Texas for the Big 12's "downfall."
You, Nebraska, TAMU are all 100% full of shite.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 8:12 pm to PerrillouxToTexas
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Mizzou governor on Big Ten expansion: ‘We should listen’
By
John Taylor
Published December 18, 2009 12:23 PM
LINK
You were flirting with the B1G in 2009. Nebraska was too.
2010 rolls around and Texas flirts with the PAC and everyone does exactly what they wanted to do and blame Texas for the Big 12's "downfall."
You, Nebraska, TAMU are all 100% full of shite.
Yes, because Texas was in control of the conference and nearly destroyed it and hurt Missouri and some others up in the north.
This post was edited on 8/6/23 at 8:14 pm
Posted on 8/6/23 at 8:15 pm to TrueLefty
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Yes because of Texas was in control of the conference.
We had a single vote just like everyone else. How did we "control" the Big 12? And on what issues did we exert this control in order to override a decision that was voted on?
Posted on 8/6/23 at 8:18 pm to PerrillouxToTexas
Big bad Texas huh
Posted on 8/6/23 at 8:19 pm to PerrillouxToTexas
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We had a single vote just like everyone else. How did we "control" the Big 12? And on what issues did we exert this control in order to override a decision that was voted on?
Texas has been earning more money than some of the northern schools and the LHN. Plus, SEC was about equal sharing of revenue. The B1G wasn't going to give an equal sharing of revenue to begin with. So, Missouri went to the SEC and got accepted with equal sharing of revenue.
This post was edited on 8/6/23 at 8:23 pm
Posted on 8/6/23 at 8:22 pm to Landmass
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Agree. I don't see how this is sustainable
It’s not, but it isn’t designed to be.
Once the SEC and BIG get big enough, they will break away from the NCAA and form a new governing body. Then these super conferences will break up into more traditional regional conferences
Posted on 8/6/23 at 8:24 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
These are still student athletes trying to get a degree. Imagine having a major outside the traditional business, marketing or sports medicine and flying from USC to Rutgers. I had a roommate on football team trying to make it through engineering school. It was rough for him and that was well before conference expansion. For those athletes with no delusions of playing at the next level, at some point have to wonder whether it’s worth it.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 8:28 pm to RollTide1987
The SEC thought about it, but the B1G didn't. It will bite them in the arse in the end.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 8:32 pm to RollTide1987
He’s right.
In another post I spoke about the logistics for the west coast universities joining the Big TEN. the other sports are going to suffer mightily- length of season and their travel budgets are going to explode. Days away from instruction for the students will be a problem and programs will have to up the tutoring budget.
There is a lot to what he said that I don’t think has been fully considered
In another post I spoke about the logistics for the west coast universities joining the Big TEN. the other sports are going to suffer mightily- length of season and their travel budgets are going to explode. Days away from instruction for the students will be a problem and programs will have to up the tutoring budget.
There is a lot to what he said that I don’t think has been fully considered
Posted on 8/6/23 at 8:34 pm to Arktigers
If the non-revenue sports wanted to compete in football conferences, but the schools decided they were going to be practical and keep the who-gives-a-shite-sports in a hyper-regional conference playing the Illinois's and SIU's all the time, everyone would be bitching because they were not getting the special attention that the football team gets.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 8:37 pm to RollTide1987
Good point. Schedulers and travel agents will earn their pay I suspect. SEC should only take schools that geographically fit. If we go to 20, then I say FSU, Clemson, Virginia Tech, North Carolina
Four Five pod divisions
Semi final
SEC Championship, winner plays Big 10 Champ for Natty.
Sec, Big ten form agreement and bid games to the highest bidder like NFL.
The money would be so huge the volley ball team can fly first class
Other lesser conferences can setup their own championships.
Four Five pod divisions
Semi final
SEC Championship, winner plays Big 10 Champ for Natty.
Sec, Big ten form agreement and bid games to the highest bidder like NFL.
The money would be so huge the volley ball team can fly first class
Other lesser conferences can setup their own championships.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 8:38 pm to TrueLefty
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Texas has been earning more money than some of the northern schools and the LHN.
And we could do that because the schools voted to retain their 3rd tier media properties, enabling initiatives like LHN. You or any other school could've done the same. And that revenue distribution model was voted on by Texas, Texas A&M, Nebraska, Oklahoma + at least 3 other schools. Hypocrites in bold.
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The B1G wasn't going to give an equal sharing of revenue to begin with.
B1G was never going to invite Missouri, period. It wasn't even a consideration on their end. You're lucky as hell that the SEC was short sighted enough to let you tag along with A&M.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 8:46 pm to AUCom96
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What if these giant TV contracts wither and die? Once upon a time, Disney was a monolith too big to fail. Now rumors persist they'll either sell off 3/4's of the company or the whole shebang to Amazon or Apple... if they're buying
It doesn’t matter. As long as Putin doesn’t nuke us, we will be watching college football on Saturdays. Someone will be broadcasting and Paying.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 8:51 pm to PerrillouxToTexas
quote:It was Missouri turning down the B1G when the offer wasn't a full revenue sharing. Nebraska took a pay cut to get out of Texas shadow and Missouri was trying to do the same but found a conference that said would get a fair share of the revenue. Now Texas is joining the SEC next year. They won't get the other Texas schools to get the votes. Texas A&M is the only other Texas school in the SEC. In the SEC it is about as equal as it can be so far. No one State has the power to control the SEC. It is about balance and not a lopsided Texas with so many Texas schools in the conference that made it easier to control the conference. The Northern schools got screwed over. But the new Big 12 is fine now because Texas is no longer going to be in that conference to control it.
The B1G wasn't going to give an equal sharing of revenue to begin with.
B1G was never going to invite Missouri, period. It wasn't even a consideration on their end. You're lucky as hell that the SEC was short sighted enough to let you tag along with A&M.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 8:51 pm to dstone12
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Did we consider the student athlete? No. They didn’t. Nor the fans at the game or the fans at home.
This. Only money was considered
Posted on 8/6/23 at 8:59 pm to RollTide1987
Questions that better have been addressed by the USC and UCLA admins , that's for sure!! All this travel to the midwest and east is going to kill these players.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 11:04 pm to JetDawg
A lot of the "experts" feel that at some point down the road, athletes will become employees; some suggest that this will lead to player unions. Wanna guess what one of the main issues will be when it comes to collective bargaining? Travel across country. Another problem for the athletic depts will be the costs of sending , say, USC's track teams to a meet in Maryland. Most track teams have the second most team members next to football. And track is a non-revenue producing sport. Pat Henry once said that he knows every time football scores a TD, his team got another javelin; being facetious of course.
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