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re: Little Rock? Bastards...
Posted on 5/17/18 at 4:32 pm to hilltophog
Posted on 5/17/18 at 4:32 pm to hilltophog
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Crass, on ticket thresholds in the new contract between War Memorial Stadium & Arkansas: We’re going to sell 47,000 tickets for a conference game. If we don’t, we shouldn’t have a football game.
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 4:38 pm to Numberwang
quote:This brings up another unrelated issue. Both UA and UAMS are hurt by being so far apart. The research big shots at each institution have to drive 3+ hours to meet or see any research work first hand.
UA and UAMS are comparable in their research $$$ and their economic impact. In no way can you assert that "UAMS" is more important.
Posted on 5/17/18 at 8:33 pm to TheCheshireHog
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It seems the players disagree with you. Bijhon Jackson @BijhonJ Many fans are ready to be done with Little Rock. I can tell you 1st hand that the players hate playing in Little Rock. It’s time to be done with it
Of course youre gonna use recent players who suck on teams that suck and suffered some of their most humiliating defeats at WMS
Go ask players from more than 5 years ago. Ask Mike Irwin, who has interviewed hundreds of players, what the players have thought over the many years, not just the last 5
Or you could use one tweet from a disgruntled player to prop up your argument.
Posted on 5/17/18 at 8:48 pm to WG_Dawg
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I just don't see how anyone could possibly favor LR over Fayetteville, that's as a visiting team fan that's been to both. LR itself is an absolute dump. There is nothing special about the immediate stadiuim vicinity, and the biggest appeal people tout is "tailgate on a golf course!" Ummm...ok? So it's grass that's laid out differently than other grass, waht's the big deal? The stadium is lousy. Fayetteville is the infinitely better venue.
The funny part is, when there is a good game in WMS, the LR crowd of 45k can be louder than a Fayetteville crowd of 70k.
Ive been to dozens of games at both places. DWR stadium is far and away better than WMS.
The atmosphere at WMS, when a decent team comes to town, is far and away better than DWS. The fact that anyone tries to argue otherwise is laughable.
Mike Leach agrees. Skip to the 24 minute mark
LINK
Posted on 5/17/18 at 9:44 pm to CFB_Fanatic
quote:Greg McElroy and Jalen Hurts both said that THE Home of the Razorbacks - DWRRS (located in Fayetteville, Arkansas) is the loudest place they played.
Mike Leach agrees. Skip to the 24 minute mark
I trust 2 players who played in Razorback stadium recently than a batchit crazy pirate.
Also, Leach NEVER coached in Razorback stadium and the last time he coached in Arkansas was over 20 years ago.
NWA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lil pebble
Posted on 5/17/18 at 9:48 pm to hilltophog
Links for the butthurt wms fans:
McElroy
Hurts
McElroy
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Former Alabama QB Greg Mcelroy told @finebaum "the loudest place I've ever played was Arkansas". What will the atmosphere be like on Sat?
Hurts
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Alabama played in some allegedly intimidating environments this year. The Tide had to travel to Tennessee and hear the hill people holler, they had to go to Ole Miss and listen to the black rebel land shark bears, and they of course had to go to LSU and endure the calls of the swamp folk. In the end though it was the fine people of Arkansas who made the most noise when Alabama came to town.
To some, especially LSU fans, this might be surprising, but not to me. Arkansas fans are loud and proud. They don’t get the same reputation as LSU fans, because in general they aren’t yelling slurs, curses, or throwing things, but they are still a very loud crowd.
Posted on 5/17/18 at 9:50 pm to hilltophog
Let us not to forget that the location makes games on campus even better. Why?
Posted on 5/17/18 at 10:03 pm to CFB_Fanatic
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The funny part is, when there is a good game in WMS, the LR crowd of 45k can be louder than a Fayetteville crowd of 70k.
Do you know what the difference is between a stadium that is completely enclosed vs one that is open? Think about it, a lot of those WMS comments were made back in the day when DWR was open to the mountains on 1 end and open on the other.. do you really think those comments stand today especially with DWR close to being closed now? Let's see.. 45k in a high school stadium vs 80k in DWR.. hmmmm
Posted on 5/17/18 at 10:12 pm to viceman
Bama used to play in Birmingham because it sat around 80k. It was set up better for tv coverage and was great for recruiting the Woodlawn, banks and Parker kids.
It also made more money. There literally was maybe 3 hotels in ttown so folks stayed in Birmingham anyway. All those hotels on 359 didn't come along until the 90s, early 2000s. It made way more sense to play Tennessee, auburn, Penn state and southern California in Birmingham then.
It also made more money. There literally was maybe 3 hotels in ttown so folks stayed in Birmingham anyway. All those hotels on 359 didn't come along until the 90s, early 2000s. It made way more sense to play Tennessee, auburn, Penn state and southern California in Birmingham then.
Posted on 5/17/18 at 10:36 pm to TouchdownTony
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There literally was maybe 3 hotels in ttown so folks stayed in Birmingham anyway. All those hotels on 359 didn't come along until the 90s, early 2000s. It made way more sense to play Tennessee, auburn, Penn state and southern California in Birmingham then.
Little Rock games made sense when Fayetteville was a little mountain town of 35,000 people, accessible only via a winding, dangerous two-lane road and small airport. All of that ended in 1998 when I-49 (then I-540) and XNA opened up. Now, we're a metro of around 550,000 people and its an easy freeway trip from most of the rest of Arkansas.
This post was edited on 5/17/18 at 10:37 pm
Posted on 5/17/18 at 11:03 pm to hogNsinceReagan
That stadium looks like it sucks.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 12:51 am to NYCAuburn
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It was more because the stadium held 15k-20k more, not because of the corruption. In Arkys case WMS holds about 20k less
Wrong. If it was just about ticket sales, then the Iron Bowl would have been moved to Jordan Hare every other year because Jordan Hare was the biggest stadium. Perhaps corruption is the wrong word, but Birmingham city officials enticed UA officials to keep playing games at Legion Field. What we would call bribes and corruption but actually are not illegal as those terms suggest. Once the tv networks were showing the game every year, tickets sales became much less of a priority.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 8:24 am to CFB_Fanatic
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The funny part is, when there is a good game in WMS, the LR crowd of 45k can be louder than a Fayetteville crowd of 70k.
I'm assuming your "good game in LR" is being compared to a shite game in Fayetteville. How bout a good game in little rock compared to a good game in fayetteville?
UGA and arky aren't rivals and play sparingly but I would guess that UGA coming to town would be a "big game" for arkansas, right? After experiencing both venues I found fayetteville not only a better crowd/atmosphere (and louder) but infinitely more enjoyable overall.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 8:33 am to CFB_Fanatic
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The funny part is, when there is a good game in WMS, the LR crowd of 45k can be louder than a Fayetteville crowd of 70k.
You can tell the Little Rock brand of Hog fan vs. the NEA brand, just by how they post.
I've been to both places many times and as a neutral observer, I can tell you that the on campus stadium is far superior to WMS in every aspect. Most Arkansas alums can't stand playing in Little Rock. In Fayetteville, you're playing in front of alumni and students, and it's a great environment with friendly folks. In LR, you're playing in front of a bunch of bama-grade sidewalk fans who can't spell Fayetteville, let alone find it on a map. There are a few exceptions, but not many, as I'm sure anyone who's had to walk through the tailgate areas to get to the stadium at WMS can attest.
This post was edited on 5/18/18 at 8:36 am
Posted on 5/18/18 at 8:38 am to Drebin
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the NEA brand
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fans who can't spell Fayetteville
Says the guy who doesn’t know where Fayettenam is located
Posted on 5/18/18 at 8:40 am to Pigfeet
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Says the guy who doesn’t know where Fayettenam is located
My bad on the typo, Piggie.
Been there many times, though. Favorite SEC road trip. Best friend graduated from there.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 8:42 am to viceman
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Wrong. If it was just about ticket sales, then the Iron Bowl would have been moved to Jordan Hare every other year because Jordan Hare was the biggest stadium
Again, wrong. Jordan-Hare didnt have more capacity until 1987. Two years later it was played in Auburn, partly because of seating capacity...
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the Board voted unanimously to “endorse the recommendation of the Athletic Director [Dye] and the President of Auburn University and instructs that a contract be negotiated with the University of Alabama to have the Alabama game played in Auburn’s Jordan-Hare Stadium when Auburn University is the home team.” The resolution specifically pointed out the planned increase in seating capacity of Jordan-Hare, and declared that “it is in the best interest of Auburn University to play this game in Jordan-Hare Stadium.”
This post was edited on 5/18/18 at 8:48 am
Posted on 5/18/18 at 8:44 am to NYCAuburn
this is an OT hijack, but NYC...I konw the first on campus IB was in auburn in 89 (supposedly loudest and best game there ever), knowing the clout bama had, why did they agree to start that arrangement in AU instead of tuscaloosa? I know you mentioned JH had more seating capacity, but knowing how the state of AL is (and how bama is) it seems like they would have been like "ok, we'll leave bham for campuses but it's damn sure gonna start in tuscaloosa".
Posted on 5/18/18 at 8:49 am to WG_Dawg
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I konw the first on campus IB was in auburn in 89 (supposedly loudest and best game there ever), knowing the clout bama had, why did they agree to start that arrangement in AU instead of tuscaloosa? I know you mentioned JH had more seating capacity, but knowing how the state of AL is (and how bama is) it seems like they would have been like "ok, we'll leave bham for campuses but it's damn sure gonna start in tuscaloosa".
Legion field held 15-20k more, almost 40% more than BDS
Posted on 5/18/18 at 8:53 am to NYCAuburn
Maybe I didn't ask that correctly...what I meant was, when the decision came that the IB would be played on campus, knowing how heavily pro-bama the state is, why did they basically say "ok we'll play at your place in Auburn and also in bham" rather than demanding they play at home in tuscaloosa as well...was it simply about capacity? I just looked up the series and see that the first game in ttown was in 2000...that blows my mind.
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