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re: Lincoln Riley states his real reason for leaving OU and going to USC.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 4:44 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Posted on 6/9/22 at 4:44 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
His true weaknesses were his little to no emphasis on defense and he often coached scared and timid when another team punched back and responded.
His scared coaching stemmed from not having an offensive coordinator (more so his lack of trust). This was his true weakness. Dual hatting multiple duties when he should’ve focused on the big picture.
Look at the Rose Bowl Georgia game, up 31-17 and then he came out in the 2nd half timid and scared. Same thing with Bama and LSU.
His scared coaching stemmed from not having an offensive coordinator (more so his lack of trust). This was his true weakness. Dual hatting multiple duties when he should’ve focused on the big picture.
Look at the Rose Bowl Georgia game, up 31-17 and then he came out in the 2nd half timid and scared. Same thing with Bama and LSU.
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 4:46 pm to Tideroller
Yeah... I would love to have the new head coach for my school just piss all over his previous school that has made the playoffs quite a few years.
Oklahoma's biggest problem has been that they've been in the Big 12. They have really good teams that can go on cruise control for damn near the entire season. Put them in the SEC where they can be battle tested and yeah... it might be a steep learning curve.
But... an Oklahoma that makes it through the SEC in position to be in the college playoffs is going to be scary as hell. This is the best thing to happen to Oklahoma football in years.
Texas? Mmm. Maybe not so much. We will have to see.
Oklahoma's biggest problem has been that they've been in the Big 12. They have really good teams that can go on cruise control for damn near the entire season. Put them in the SEC where they can be battle tested and yeah... it might be a steep learning curve.
But... an Oklahoma that makes it through the SEC in position to be in the college playoffs is going to be scary as hell. This is the best thing to happen to Oklahoma football in years.
Texas? Mmm. Maybe not so much. We will have to see.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 4:47 pm to OU_Fan
What did you think of Grinch? USC is stockpiling corners and safeties and neglecting front 7 players.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 4:50 pm to bisonduck
I think Riley is going to find having a good Oregon and some other decent PAC-12 squads to compete with is a tougher row to hoe then he thought.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 4:52 pm to bisonduck
Grinch is overrated. OU never had a physical defense under Grinch, I don’t see any changes in my opinion.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 4:57 pm to OU_Fan
Posted on 6/9/22 at 5:34 pm to OU_Fan
That’s what I thought. Towards the end of 2020 it looked like OU may start to turn the corner but it was the same the next year.
This post was edited on 6/9/22 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 6/9/22 at 5:35 pm to bisonduck
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What did you think of Grinch?
In a nutshell: he wasn't great at developing talent & maintaining the team's focus and his "speed D" philosophy was sometimes just dumb.
Example: Freshman talent comes in and starts by mid-season because he couldn't get production out of upper-classmen, and blames it on the players. But the next season, that freshman (now sophomore) hasn't developed, so rinse & repeat, the cycle continues. Jordan Mukes, from the article below, wasn't the only one.
SI Article
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Grinch’s answer seems to reveal that five games into the season, two games into Big 12 Conference play, some players are practicing poorly enough that he’s having true freshmen change positions during the week and then meaningful snaps in road games.
Grinch would experiment resulting in poor results, but he'd keep doing the experiments. Couple examples: last year against far inferior talent, he always called stunts and twists for the few NFL-caliber players who could mostly manhandle their (B12) opponents. Also, he was subbing D-linemen out every 2, 3, 4 plays. Said it was about "creating depth" but in reality it created a mess.
Another SI article:
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All it took was one rep at the Senior Bowl for Oklahoma noseguard Perrion Winfrey to realize he hadn’t been allowed to reach his potential during his senior year at OU.
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“Me and IT (Isaiah Thomas) ran a stunt. It didn’t work,” Winfrey said on the podcast. “I come to the sideline (and) the Jets coach was like, ‘Don’t be running no games. Games are for people who can’t dominate a man one-on-one.’ So then I go in again and I just run through a (blocker’s) face and get a (tackle for loss). Come back to the sideline and he’s like, ‘You see what I’m talking about? You don’t need to run no games. Games are meant for people who can’t dominate a game.’ “
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We had me, Nik Bonitto, Isaiah Thomas and Jalen Redmond all on the same D-line. There’s no reason why we’re not attacking people 24/7. There’s no reason why we have to run stunts in games.”
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“Nik Bonitto is mugging 95 percent of the game — in coverage! — instead of screaming off the edge,” he said. “They got me at nose. There’s a whole bunch of things. I could go on and on about it.
“It was just confusing because it was like as a defensive coordinator — I got respect for Grinch — but you’re supposed to mold your defensive scheme around your players. You’re not supposed to try to force a scheme on players that it doesn’t fit. As a great defensive coordinator, you must see what you have and put forth enough to help them. Not try to mold them around your scheme, because as you see, it wasn’t working.”
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“The only other thing that was pissing us off was the rotations,” Winfrey told Ikard and Lehman. “When I want to get out of the game, let me tap my head and come out. You don’t have to take us out every three plays. We were trying to tell them, ‘I need to get into a rhythm. I’m going in for three plays and then I won’t see the field for like two drives.’
This post was edited on 6/9/22 at 5:37 pm
Posted on 6/9/22 at 6:12 pm to ouflak
Well Venables sure isn’t the answer. What a joke.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 6:12 pm to lewis and herschel
Tides shift, but the top 5 programs all time outside the early Ivy are Bama, Dome, OSU OU and USC.
After that is the rest of the pack, Michigan, Tennder, UGA, LSU, Nebraska, Texas, Miami, FSU, etc, a few of which are considered blue bloods but outside Michigan and Texas I’m not sure who they are.
After that is the rest of the pack, Michigan, Tennder, UGA, LSU, Nebraska, Texas, Miami, FSU, etc, a few of which are considered blue bloods but outside Michigan and Texas I’m not sure who they are.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 6:13 pm to OU_Fan
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Lincoln Riley states his real reason for leaving OU and going to USC
Posted on 6/9/22 at 6:13 pm to Arksulli
“ But... an Oklahoma that makes it through the SEC in position to be in the college playoffs is going to be scary as hell”.
Uh, anyone in the sec can say that.
Uh, anyone in the sec can say that.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 6:23 pm to WoodyOrnamental
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Well Venables sure isn’t the answer. What a joke.
FYI: Jimbo Fisher is Texas A&M’s coach.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 6:23 pm to WoodyOrnamental
I think he probably wanted to live near the beach.
Oklahoma has one of the least appealing landscapes.
Oklahoma has one of the least appealing landscapes.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 6:23 pm to Zgeo
Since a bunch of y'all are in here I just wanna say I can't wait for OU to join the SEC and it's perfect timing that you now have a defensive bulldog coach like Venables to lead you in here 
Posted on 6/9/22 at 6:27 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I see the Bama fans are looking for another team to ride. For the record, I think you all suck and deserve all that is coming with letting OU/sip in the door.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 6:34 pm to ColoradoAg
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I see the Bama fans are looking for another team to ride. For the record, I think you all suck and deserve all that is coming with letting OU/sip in the door.
Y'all just have a massive inferiority complex. Oklahoma is a blue blood who will be a great all around add to the league much like A&M was. Care much less about Texas. Would have been fine with OU/Okie St.
This post was edited on 6/9/22 at 6:37 pm
Posted on 6/9/22 at 6:53 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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who will be a great all around add to the league much like A&M was.
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 6:57 pm to Clark14
A&M was a very good addition to the SEC
Posted on 6/9/22 at 8:25 pm to Tideroller
Lincoln, incase you didn't know just because you moved to the other side of the country there is still this thing called defense. They try and stop the offense from scoring, why don't you try and become a complete head coach and learn it. There were many jobs out there that were better than the USC if you ask me, but the jobs that fit him best were in the conference that he wanted nothing to do with. I think he is going to run into the same exact problem he did at Oklahoma. Teams are going to be talented enough to win the PAC 12, but when they make it to the playoffs they won't be able to match up with the talent. I am not sure if he also knows that people are leaving California like never before.
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