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re: Let’s see your (I know it will be hard for this board) NON TROLL divisional re-alignment

Posted on 10/27/21 at 9:48 am to
Posted by OldRebYeller
Member since Jan 2017
292 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 9:48 am to
How will pods work out come SEC championship time though? Sec Championship Semi Final and Final?

I say just keep it simple, send Texas to the East and Oklahoma to the west. Its stupid geographically but it works.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 10:00 am to
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How will pods work out come SEC championship time though?


The pods rotate. So you end up with two divisions on a three year cycle.
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2122 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 10:02 am to
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Similar to what is being proposed in the pod system. You and your 3 permanent opponents would constitute a 4 team pod for scheduling purposes.

The next piece is to figure out who goes to the championship game without divisions. A lot of ways to structure that. You could even have two 4 team pods within each division.
Not really.

Pods are the building blocks for divisions which would alternate every year. With Pods A, B, C, and D, in year one your divisions would be A/B and C/D. The next year, it would be A/C and B/D. The third year it would be A/D and B/C. The winners of the divisions would meet for the title game. In a no divisions, no pods set up, you just take the teams with the 2 best records.

Because four team pods would not be big enough to include the five teams that play the sacred cow permanent rivalry games, the only way the SEC would do pods is with each team having one permanent rival from the other three pods. So, you'd have six teams that you play every year, and you'd work your way through through the other 9 teams soley through the pod rotation. In effect, a pod system like this means that you only have one less permanent opponent than we have right now with the division system.
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 10/27/21 at 10:06 am to
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Each teams has 3 permanent opponents, and you rotate the other 12
Ah, so a Pod?
No. Pods are the building blocks for rotating divisions. You still would have divisional play and might end up with a championship game where the winner of division 1 (pods A and B, in a given year) is undefeated, while the winner of divisions 2 (pods C and D) has two losses.

Pods require you and your pod mates to play the same opponents, whereas, in the no divisions, no pods scenario, every team would have a unique set of permanent opponents. A&M might have Texas, LSU, and Arkansas, while Texas might have A&M, OU, and Arkansas, while Arkansas has Texas, OU, and Missouri...
This post was edited on 10/27/21 at 10:07 am
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36528 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 10:07 am to
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Pod 1
UGA
South Carolina
Auburn
Florida


Too many horses.

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Pod 2
Tennessee
Alabama
Kentucky
Vandy


Way too weak. Swap Auburn and Kentucky.

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Pod 3
Ole Miss
Miss St
LSU
Texas A&M


Meh

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Pod 4
Texas
Arkansas
Oklahoma
Mizzou


Not bad.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58913 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 10:15 am to
East

Alabama
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt

West

Arkansas
LSU
Mississippi State
Missouri
Oklahoma
Ole Miss
Texas
Texas A&M
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 10:16 am to
Each individual pod shouldn’t care about strength and balance since it will always be matched with another pod. Pods and the one outside pod opponent should just do what makes sense to maintain rivalries for those that care about them and allow more rotation for those that don’t.

Cotton Pod

Arkansas
Oklahoma
Mizzou
tu(permanent A&M)

Magnolia Pod

Ole Miss(permanent State)
LSU
Texas A&M(permanent tu)
Vanderbilt(permanent UT)

Dixie Pod

Alabama(permanent Auburn)
Tennessee(permanent Vandy)
Mississippi State(permanent Ole Miss)
Kentucky

Peach Pod

Auburn(Permanent Alabama)
Georgia
Florida
South Carolina

The 8 teams without permanent opponents rotate with each other. When your permanent out of pod opponent is in your pod, you can play a secondary designated opponent(like Bama and LSU).

Year 1

Division A = Cotton + Magnolia
Division B = Dixie + Peach

Year 2

Division A = Cotton + Dixie
Division B = Magnolia + Peach

Year 3

Division A = Cotton + Peach
Division B = Dixie + Magnolia



Now. You can argue that A&M is going to absolutely dominate the pod if Vandy, Ole Miss and LSU are in their pod. That’s true. That’s pretty much 3-0 guaranteed each year. However, Aggy won’t be in a division with just those three. They’ll have Alabama and Georgia in their division 2 out of 3 years. Matching with the Cotton Pod would be 7-0 but o well.
Posted by DaWGfan01
PCB FL
Member since Dec 2017
1470 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 10:16 am to
Bama and auburn to the east, Mizzou, OU and UT to the west, play every one in your division, rotate 2 teams from other division and alternate the SEC championship between the Benz in ATL and Jerry's world in Dallas

But that makes to much sense, so it will not happen..
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
16195 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 10:17 am to
The problem with pods is every single one of them puts Auburn with “one more than everyone else” of the Big Six every time.

Posted by LockeNLoad
Omnipresent
Member since Oct 2021
235 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 10:24 am to
If the League moves forward with a pod system (which seems inevitable), they must take into account the strengths of each program during a relatively-modern timeframe. With four pods, it must spread the eight stronger programs amongst the four pods.

As much as a current SEC fan may hate it, Texas and Oklahoma DO qualify as two of the new "Big Eight" schools. Your proposal sticks two pods with six of the Eight, and just gives a pod each to Alabama and LSU.

That will never happen.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36528 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 10:28 am to
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Now. You can argue that A&M is going to absolutely dominate the pod if Vandy, Ole Miss and LSU are in their pod. That’s true. That’s pretty much 3-0 guaranteed each year.




You poor, dumb bastard.
Posted by BreakawayZou83
Kansas City, Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
9462 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 10:34 am to
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SEC Traditional
Auburn, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky, LSU, MISS state, Ole Miss, Vandy

SEC SWC
Texas, Oklahoma, TAMU, Arkie, Mizzou, USC add Okie State, Iowa State, Baylor, Texas Tech


That's just two separate conferences.

We could've basically had this scenario if the Big Eight had added Arkansas instead of Texas back in the early 90s. And the SEC could've stayed at 10 teams, or added FSU with South Carolina. The reimagined Big 12 probably would not have destabilized without Texas constantly trying to screw everyone else over.

And everyone (except maybe Arkansas fans) would be happy.


Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44830 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 10:36 am to
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Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, Florida


This would be the ultimate college football gauntlet
Posted by XWing atAliciousness
Member since Jan 2018
8623 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 10:37 am to
Pods. This one from starkvingrad seems to make the most sense:
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East- UF, SCAR, UGA, UK

Central- Vandy, Bama, Auburn, Tenn

South- LSU, A&M, State, OM

West- Texas, Mizzou, OU, Ark
I'm assuming this would only be for football? No idea how they'd schedule the other sports
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58913 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 10:39 am to
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The problem with pods is every single one of them puts Auburn with “one more than everyone else” of the Big Six every time.




Wouldn't that be true of whichever Big 6 team they are in the pod with?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58913 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 10:42 am to
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You poor, dumb bastard.


After being dominated in the past, Texas A&M has done pretty well the last 3-4 years, along with a probable win this year. LSU fans must recognize that there at least appears to be a power shift going on between Texas A&M and LSU.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36528 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 10:48 am to
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LSU fans must recognize that there at least appears to be a power shift going on between Texas A&M and LSU.


There's not. The 2018 was bullshite, and Ed has been negligent since the national championship game.

Will LSU win every game? No, but we'll win 6 or 7 out of every 10.

LSU is just a better football program.
Posted by Wrucker16
Member since Jul 2014
3130 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 10:55 am to
Texas and OU to the West. Auburn and Alabama to the East.
Posted by TouchdownTony
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
9684 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 11:24 am to
U can go ahead and kill the notion of some pod system. Bama and aub are going east. The sec isn't gonna have a 4 team playoff to decide conference champ. It also makes sense geographically to have Bama playing UGA, Florida, Tennessee, south Carolina, etc vs a&m, Texas, mizzou. Lsu and arkie are much closer to those regions.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54655 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 11:30 am to
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East- UF, SCAR, UGA, UK

Central- Vandy, Bama, Auburn, Tenn


Historically UK, UT, and VU have been tied together, not sure I see them separated now. Tickets and donors make these valuable matchups
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