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re: JT Daniels granted immediate eligibility at UGA
Posted on 7/13/20 at 2:28 pm to SCDawg95
Posted on 7/13/20 at 2:28 pm to SCDawg95
quote:it took Dabo 8 years to take Clemson to a NC Kirby did it in 2 and has took us to two Sugarbowls he is Growing
When you pay a guy $7million per year, there's no such thing as growing on the Job, you better be able to DO THE JOB
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 2:33 pm to GaryGator
quote:Imagine being so miserable about MuLLLen's losses in Jacksonville that you have to share a tweet from Jemele Hill
GaryGator
Posted on 7/13/20 at 2:36 pm to SCDawg95
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he’s saying Fromm should have benched which would have left Stetson Bennett a Qb who left and played Juco and had 10 td and 9 int to his resume and happened to be our only backup at the moment and he would have been our only option for a replacement and I’m retarded you inbred frick 43-14
So yes.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 2:51 pm to MillerLiteTime
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The vast majority of current NFL QB's have come from programs outside of the top tier programs.
It's not about a career. It's about the first contact. How many #1 picks have third tier schools like Wake produced?
Posted on 7/13/20 at 2:55 pm to chillmonster
Exactly, Gardner Minshew may be starting for the Jags and may be a starter there for awhile, but it's unlikely he'll ever make the money that some early rounders made just from their first contract and signing bonus.
Teams overpay like hell and I don't blame the kids who want to take advantage of that.
Teams overpay like hell and I don't blame the kids who want to take advantage of that.
This post was edited on 7/13/20 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 7/13/20 at 2:58 pm to VADawg
quote:I think you are giving the NCAA too much credit. I bet it looks something like this:
It literally seems like they have a two person committee who decides immediate eligibility by playing rock, paper, scissors.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 3:18 pm to djsdawg
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He would, but uga is a far better place for his interview. Better RBs, better ol, George Pickens, better offensive system
Sure, but now he is also facing DB's and pass rushers from Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Tennessee, etc instead of Boston College and Duke.
This post was edited on 7/13/20 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 7/13/20 at 3:32 pm to chillmonster
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It's not about a career. It's about the first contact. How many #1 picks have third tier schools like Wake produced?
Let's slow down. I don't think he has a realistic shot at competing for #1 overall when we are having to discuss in the same thread if he can even start at UGA. I would imagine his goal would be to simply get drafted or be in the first 3 rounds. But to answer your question, tons of QB's from non tier 1 schools have been first rounders. Specifically for the #1 overall pick (since you asked): Alex Smith, Eli Manning, David Carr, Tim Couch, and Drew Bledsoe would qualify.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 3:34 pm to MillerLiteTime
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Sure, but now he is also facing DB's and pass rushers from Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, etc instead of Boston College and Duke.
He went from a supporting group disadvantage vs most opponents to an advantage vs most opponents, and to a system that will hopefully preserve his body better.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 3:37 pm to megiddo
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Exactly, Gardner Minshew may be starting for the Jags and may be a starter there for awhile, but it's unlikely he'll ever make the money that some early rounders made just from their first contract and signing bonus.
Teams overpay like hell and I don't blame the kids who want to take advantage of that.
To the contrary, under the new CBA, a first round QB who has a 15 year career will make a much smaller portion of their career earnings under their first contract. Just look at #1 pick Jared Goff vs. 4th round pick Dak Prescott. Their career earnings will end up looking fairly comparable. Teams are not shelling out 20% of their cap money to their 1st rounders like they used to under the old CBA. Jamarcus Russell ruined that for everybody.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 3:44 pm to MillerLiteTime
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Specifically for the #1 overall pick (since you asked): Alex Smith, Eli Manning, David Carr, Tim Couch, and Drew Bledsoe would qualify.
And speaking of Duke and BC,let's not forget both Matt Ryan (BC) and Daniel Jones (Duke) were top 10 picks.
This post was edited on 7/13/20 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 7/13/20 at 3:47 pm to RD Dawg
Carson Wentz was the #2 overall pick out of North Dakota State. Some guys are late bloomers.
Newman will likely be the #4 QB off the board in 2021. Lawrence, Fields, and Trey Lance would go before him if the draft was held tomorrow.
Newman will likely be the #4 QB off the board in 2021. Lawrence, Fields, and Trey Lance would go before him if the draft was held tomorrow.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 3:49 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I'm mildly glad to hear this but it's obviously a token approval considering it's not looking like the season will be played. 
Posted on 7/13/20 at 3:52 pm to djsdawg
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He went from a supporting group disadvantage vs most opponents to an advantage vs most opponents, and to a system that will hopefully preserve his body better.
For most positions, I agree the supporting cast can boost your draft stock. But at QB, it seems to often be a negative. How often did we hear about scouts who wondered what Tua would be without his supporting cast? Matt Ryan didn't get drafted #3 out of Boston College due to his supporting cast. He got drafted that high because he put up numbers and won big games with the entire team on his shoulders. At QB, teams seem to gravitate towards the underdog QB. Daniel Jones may have never even got a chance to start if he had been offered a walkon spot at LSU, UGA, or Bama. Instead he was a zero star guy with only one offer from Duke, and the Giants fell in love with him because of how he carried his team alone. QBs get picked apart by the scouts more than any position. If you can play well at the smaller schools, the scouts start to run out of excuses and explanations for how you played so well.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 3:55 pm to RD Dawg
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And speaking of Duke and BC,let's not forget both Matt Ryan (BC) and Daniel Jones (Duke) were both top 10 picks.
Oh yea, we could go on forever about first round QBs from small schools. QB is probably the position where you have the highest chance of being a first rounder coming out of a smaller school. For some reason the poster thought his argument would be bolstered by limiting the discussion to only #1 overall picks.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 4:06 pm to MillerLiteTime
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Matt Ryan didn't get drafted #3 out of Boston College due to his supporting cast. He got drafted that high because he put up numbers and won big games with the entire team on his shoulders.
Ryan had bad numbers.
56 career TDs to 37 career interceptions.
His redshirt senior season was 31 TDs and 19 INTs with 59% completion percentage.
The offense absolutely fell onto his shoulders like you said. But that is not a QB protecting the football. That is a QB pressing in almost every game (I remember games that year with 5 INT drops by the defense as well).
He was that high of a draft pick because he already possessed the nfl tools and a QB coach/OC thought they could make him NFL ready right away (despite mixed success, he had a ton of experience at 22 years old. High IQ kid).
Posted on 7/13/20 at 4:14 pm to MillerLiteTime
Are you guys really arguing that there's no advantage in peforming well playing big time football against the best competition?
That's just absurd.
That's just absurd.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 4:17 pm to chillmonster
Tua and Burrow would look a lot different with out their wrs.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 4:18 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Will be 2021 before he plays anyway
Posted on 7/13/20 at 4:30 pm to meansonny
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Ryan had bad numbers.
56 career TDs to 37 career interceptions.
His redshirt senior season was 31 TDs and 19 INTs with 59% completion percentage.
The offense absolutely fell onto his shoulders like you said. But that is not a QB protecting the football. That is a QB pressing in almost every game (I remember games that year with 5 INT drops by the defense as well).
He was that high of a draft pick because he already possessed the nfl tools and a QB coach/OC thought they could make him NFL ready right away (despite mixed success, he had a ton of experience at 22 years old. High IQ kid).
I agree and I guess in some ways what you say is proving my point. If you have the talent and brain to be an NFL QB, teams do not penalize you at the draft for playing at a non-elite school. If anything, I think these shining stars on bad or average teams tend to get more of a spotlight on them. Their leadership skills and talent get developed to the fullest possible extent because they can't hide behind their teammates. They become tenacious competitors who can handle tons of big hits with an overmatched OL and get back up. They can't rely on their WR's to be open most plays so they have to throw perfect balls and make awesome decisions.
Frankly I would bet most scouts would rather see another year of Newman at Wake Forest than see if he drastically improves at UGA. If he has a solid year at UGA, they will just wonder if it was because his talent around him got better.
Playing QB for a small school where you feel overmatched most games is a lot more what it is like for a rookie QB on a bad NFL team (which is usually the predicament most NFL QB's face early in their careers). The tough ones used to losing and playing hard anyways are the ones who survive.
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