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re: Is there a Civil War going on at Ole Miss

Posted on 7/2/19 at 12:49 am to
Posted by NoNotMe
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 7/2/19 at 12:49 am to
The Loser
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14812 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 2:50 am to
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The NCAA won't even award events in the state. You look at the success South Carolina had once they got rid of it and the NCAA bent over backwards for them. And that's something that will immediately impact MS.


The Winner is right. Personally, I have no problem with the flag and I've never advocated against it, but over the last few years, I've changed my tune some. While I don't think the flag has hurt Mississippi in recruiting large scale industry to come here (although our current governor hasn't been very aggressive at it), it definitely hurts the state in attracting large scale events.

Anything that isolates Mississippi should not stand, even though I don't necessarily agree with the reasoning most people give that want the flag replaced. It was all started by white liberal media constituents wanting to stir the pot. Black people hadn't considered the flag in years for the most part. That's what really stinks about the whole thing.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
35047 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 5:10 am to
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The Chancellor is chosen by an independent committee and not by anyone affiliated directly with the university. Same as MSU and other public universities. Nice try though.


I don't normally get into NoNotMe numbnut threads but what you are saying is a bunch of nonsense. An OM alum and Chair of the Search Committee for IHL is very Ole Miss. He was involved in the ouster of Dan Jones (or at least didn't oppose it). A friend of mine and an alum of OM was hired by OM to interview major players in the OM Alumni Association (read donors) to find out what OM alumni want in the next Chancellor. A short list will be presented to the entire IHL Board and a selection will more than likely come from that short list. They say they are independent but there are lots of influences that control who the next Chancellor will be. I would expect them to go with a "middle of the roader" type guy; not ultra conservative and not ultra liberal either. I think too much in the way of a progressive culture has grown at OM to ever go back to an ultra conservative environment. JMO
This post was edited on 7/2/19 at 5:12 am
Posted by 18mph
Corinth, MS
Member since Apr 2014
299 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 7:20 am to
That is incorrect. Ole Miss people did not want the last chancellor at all. Phil Bryant who appoints IHL members hates Ole Miss and will make sure they get another weak chancellor. Miss St did get who they wanted in Keenum but Ole Miss will not be that fortunate. The last chancellor did enough damage to hurt the school for years.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
18151 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 7:25 am to
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The Chancellor is chosen by an independent committee and not by anyone affiliated directly with the university


OlMiss good ol' boys can't keep their noses out of football recruiting, but we're supposed to believe that they're going to sit back and just accept a chancellor from an unaffiliated panel?

Is Santa Claus going to deliver this new chancellor?
Posted by Quicksilver
Poker Room
Member since Jan 2013
11688 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 7:59 am to
The last time a chancellor was chosen, the majority of the IHL were State alums. Lot of nonsense in this topic but par for the course.
Posted by Rayburn8
Member since Jun 2014
1715 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 8:03 am to
Oh frick off, I’m conservative as the next guy on this board but the damn flag needs to change.

It’s racist, whether you think it is or not, regardless of the history of the flag or wherever. Today it is a racist symbol and does nothing but make the state look worse.

And before you use the “history” argument. You put history in a museum, not glorify it on a state flag.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
58894 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 8:04 am to
War by nature can not be civil
Posted by Allyn McKeen
Key West, FL
Member since Jun 2012
4479 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 8:21 am to
Surely someone can think of a good way to honor history without using the symbol that the KKK adopted.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
18151 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 8:35 am to
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The last time a chancellor was chosen, the majority of the IHL were State alums


Dang Quick, I never pictured you as one of the OM conspiracy types. Did you rail against Larry Templeton screwing OM in the baseball regionals every year?

Imagine believing that Larry Templeton was an SEC power broker who pulled strings behind the curtains
This post was edited on 7/2/19 at 8:37 am
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
17537 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 8:45 am to
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As A native Mississippian I humbly disagree with you. Our state flag is in no way shape or form racist.


I'm a native Mississippian as well and would be 100% completely fine with changing the state flag.

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Also PARTS of our state flag resemble the confederate flag. The top left corner.


It's a mini confederate flag. Why champion an image that never had any positive connotation? It's time.

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Anything that isolates Mississippi should not stand


This statement above sums it up pretty nicely
This post was edited on 7/2/19 at 8:47 am
Posted by NoNotMe
Member since Aug 2018
805 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 8:46 am to
Surely you believe Mississippi State should remove the Bust of General Stephen D. Lee, a Confederate General from the Drill Field and his name off Lee Hall. And MSU should remove all vestiges of Civil War names and buildings from our beloved campus. Surely you want this.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
18151 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 8:49 am to
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Anything that isolates Mississippi should not stand This statement above sums it up pretty nicely


That's all that really needs to be said about the subject
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
17537 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 9:03 am to
I pulled it from ReservoirDawg who I pretty much always disagree with
Posted by Landmass
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Member since Jun 2013
21358 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 9:13 am to
As much shite as MS gets over the flag, Georgia, in a move to distance itself from the battle flag of the confederacy adopted the national flag of the confederacy instead. People are generally too ignorant to notice.



Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
35047 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 9:18 am to
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The last time a chancellor was chosen, the majority of the IHL were State alums. Lot of nonsense in this topic but par for the course.


More nonsense. So you are saying that 7 of the 12 members of the IHL Board were at that time, MSU graduates? Not true and has never happened.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
72708 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 9:21 am to
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The college board is appointed by the governor.
Then it will be a conservative Chancellor. Not hard to see that
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26140 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 9:23 am to
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Rumors that there's a fierce battle behind the scenes about who the next Chancellor should be.


The Chancellor is selected by the IHL, a board appointed by the governor that also does the same for Mississippi State and every other public university in Mississippi.
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26140 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 9:24 am to
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Georgia, in a move to distance itself from the battle flag of the confederacy adopted the national flag of the confederacy instead.


Obviously I think both are bad but only one the battle jack has racist implications in the 21st century.
Posted by Landmass
Premium Member
Member since Jun 2013
21358 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 9:25 am to
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Then it will be a conservative Chancellor. Not hard to see that


Did we somehow get a new conservative Governor? The last time I saw, he was one of those "R" liberals.
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