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re: Is NIL killing SEC recruiting? Not a single SEC team in the top 5.
Posted on 7/23/22 at 4:36 pm to Willie_Mac
Posted on 7/23/22 at 4:36 pm to Willie_Mac
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texas is paying high school kids to commit and to stop taking more visits to other schools. Money is being exchanged with high school players. This is different than what A&M did, which was to promise payment when enrolled.
Lolololololololololololol, poor aggy.
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Texas set up a legit NIL program & have the resources to back it up.
Aggy played a game of bait & switch & have a hornets nest of problems on their hands, starting with finding a way to keep the '22 class happy & dealing with the story filtering down to recruits, parents & rival staffs.
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Posted on 7/23/22 at 4:44 pm to C W
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Still the best Alabama board on the www
No kidding? Well, dadgum. I may have to go join. Is it still $48?
Posted on 7/23/22 at 5:09 pm to SneezyBeltranIsHere
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Why does Texas have 1 national title in the last 50 years? We don't have institutionalized cheating. Sure, the alumni does $100 handshakes. But we don't do high level cheating like OU, A&M and Bama. Bama, you know your titles are all BS, right? Do you really think that so many kids from major metropolitan areas want to go to a crap academic school in the middle of nowhere?
Right after a unanimous SCOTUS decision laid the groundwork for NIL, Texas to the SEC came out in a month. Texas never wanted to be a part of SEC level cheating. Now, paying players is legit.
NIL isn't going away and Texas is going to bury all of you. I hope you had fun with CFB. You are all done.
Texas has NY Yankees type $ advantages that can now be leveraged.
Look at the few peaks and valleys in the Yankees history. Money was the factor. Up to the early 60's they bought the best players until the MLB draft equalized things. Late 70's brought free agency.. Yankees are great again. Run it out.. next was their DR/International academies & YES cable network.
Texas started sliding when scholarship limits hit and minority players were accepted. Common thread? Money.
The NIL benefits Texas in a way like few others, they get "NY Yankees" level advantages. The day some of the west coast PAC 12 schools ever decide to get serious about football look out. USC, Stanford & Cal could absolutely shite on everyone if they wanted to.
Posted on 7/23/22 at 5:28 pm to BurntOrangeMan
It's not about how much money alumni or boosters of a university have, otherwise Harvard and Yale would dominate CFB.
It's how much alumni and boosters at universities are WILLING to pay for CFB.
Look at which school's alumni and boosters that are already spending the most on coaches salaries and facilities. Those are the schools that will dominate NIL.
Texas, A&M, USC and Miami aren't going to gain some special advantage over those that are already dominating recruiting.
2022 was an anomaly for A&M as NIL was new and they seemed ready to use NIL as a recruiting inducement before everyone else. Which is in fact against the rules.
Things have normalized, other schools are wiser about NIL, so they won't be caught with their pants down like 2022.
Also guardrails will be put in place, so A&M's class won't be repeated
It's how much alumni and boosters at universities are WILLING to pay for CFB.
Look at which school's alumni and boosters that are already spending the most on coaches salaries and facilities. Those are the schools that will dominate NIL.
Texas, A&M, USC and Miami aren't going to gain some special advantage over those that are already dominating recruiting.
2022 was an anomaly for A&M as NIL was new and they seemed ready to use NIL as a recruiting inducement before everyone else. Which is in fact against the rules.
Things have normalized, other schools are wiser about NIL, so they won't be caught with their pants down like 2022.
Also guardrails will be put in place, so A&M's class won't be repeated
This post was edited on 7/23/22 at 5:30 pm
Posted on 7/23/22 at 5:55 pm to BuckI
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I'm sorry but the days of the SEC taking who they most want in recruiting is about over. Now that everything is out in the open, recruits are going to take advantage of the economic advantages that the B1G has to offer.
72 of the top 100 players in the country are in the SEC’s footprint. The Big 10 has a demographics problem. They just don’t produce a lot of elite players in the Midwest like they used to. California, VA, & NC make up much of the other 28. And the SEC recruits those well too. The factors that have contributed to the SEC’s dominance are accelerating not waning.
Posted on 7/23/22 at 5:56 pm to BuckI
Midwest is dying.
The burgeoning economy of the South is outbidding the Midwest.
The burgeoning economy of the South is outbidding the Midwest.
Posted on 7/23/22 at 6:08 pm to BuckI
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I'm sorry but the days of the SEC taking who they most want in recruiting is about over.
Why does your conference have to sign so many kids from the south to compete? Are there no elite players up there?
Posted on 7/23/22 at 6:12 pm to BuckI
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advantages that the B1G has to offer.
good one Posted on 7/23/22 at 6:28 pm to secuniversity
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It's not about how much money alumni or boosters of a university have, otherwise Harvard and Yale would dominate CFB.
It's how much alumni and boosters at universities are WILLING to pay for CFB.
As I stated.. if/when Stanford, CAL, USC ever DECIDE to...
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Look at which school's alumni and boosters that are already spending the most on coaches salaries and facilities. Those are the schools that will dominate NIL.
Coaches salaries are 90% booster financed. Facilities? Self funded primarily.
The list of programs that can take it to the next level are in a smaller class than those that have competed in the coaches salaries & facilities arms race.
Billy Bob's three county car dealership & small market campuses and or alumni bases can't compete with those that have big market attraction/big alumni bases to pull in corporate sponsored offerings.
Factor in true high net worth individuals ($150M+), that's a top heavy/small group as well.
Look @ pro sports ownership up til the 80's/90's.. huge paradigm shift to big market and corporate money.
The stakes are changing and there are 20 schools that have the resources to corner the market if they want, only a handful will have the desire, but they will be playing at a huge advantage stress free.
Eventually a "salary cap" will have to be implemented if any sense of parity can be obtained. We see this today with the historical & market advantages the elite programs are utilizing. The "have's" are going to get an even greater advantage and the "have not's" grow only in number.
Posted on 7/23/22 at 6:43 pm to BurntOrangeMan
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Texas just "landed" aka "NIL acquired" an OL from Florida that didn't have them in his top 5 nor has ever stepped foot in the state of Texas.
Texas just "landed" aka "NIL acquired" an OL from Florida that didn't have them in his top 5 nor has ever stepped foot in the state of Texas.
Posted on 7/23/22 at 6:48 pm to BurntOrangeMan
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if/when Stanford, CAL, USC ever DECIDE to
They haven't for 120 years. And CFB has gone through more drastic changes than the ones happening now.
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Billy Bob's three county car dealership & small market campuses and or alumni bases can't compete with those that have big market attraction/big alumni bases to pull in corporate sponsored offerings.
National brands, even located in small college towns, won't be limited to "Billy Bob's dealership"
This isn't 1987. The world is smaller, social media and companies want engagement. Alabama, LSU etc are located in small markets, but aren't limited to geographical areas as those names are known coast to coast.
Geography is not a part of the equation anymore. Just like it's no longer a part of the expansion conversation like it was 10 years ago. SEC and B1G are looking for name brands that add value, not markets.
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The stakes are changing and there are 20 schools that have the resources to corner the market if they want, only a handful will have the desire
They haven't for 120 years.
This isn't the paradigm shift you think it is.
There have been bigger and more important paradigm shifts in CFB: forward pass, integration, cable TV, television contracts...the same schools that always dominated adjusted.
Posted on 7/23/22 at 7:26 pm to secuniversity
You might want to try reading my posts again.. very slowly.. maybe three times and take notes.
Posted on 7/23/22 at 7:27 pm to Pulpwood Patterson
The SEC has peaked. It is all downhill from here. For years the SEC broke all the rules and both the NCAA and Birmingham turned a blind eye to it. The SEC had a bidding war over Cam Newton and the NCAA plays dumb. But let an Ohio State player get a tattoo and the NCAA becomes outraged and goes after OSU.
Posted on 7/23/22 at 8:00 pm to BuckI
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The SEC had a bidding war over Cam Newton and the NCAA plays dumb. But let an Ohio State player get a tattoo and the NCAA becomes outraged and goes after OSU.
I hear ya, but that tattoo scandal started with the feds and when it got to Tress he lied/tried to cover it up. NCAA doesn't mess with the $ makers unless they are forced to.
Posted on 7/23/22 at 8:00 pm to Hawkeye here
Who the frick let Hawkeye fans speak?
Posted on 7/23/22 at 11:54 pm to BuckI
OSU has been one of the slimiest football programs in the NCAA for decades, yet has the gall to point fingers.
Posted on 7/24/22 at 7:25 am to tattoo
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OSU has been one of the slimiest football programs in the NCAA for decades
Username irony noted.
Posted on 7/24/22 at 7:33 am to BuckI
Sport, you're a complete DA.
Posted on 7/24/22 at 8:17 am to BurntOrangeMan
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Texas started sliding when... minority players were accepted
right
Posted on 7/24/22 at 9:43 am to Nitro Express
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Is it still $48?
Yes. Still $48
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