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re: Is Ewers the biggest example so far of NIL failure?
Posted on 4/27/25 at 9:22 am to CaneyLake
Posted on 4/27/25 at 9:22 am to CaneyLake
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Had actual NIL deals with companies (State Farm, Dicks Sporting Goods, etc) -Was a great ambassador for his college & the companies that paid him -Was a productive member of society and did things for children in his community -Won a lot of football games
Also could have transferred and played another year for $2M+ (probably) but wanted to only be known as a Longhorn. Ya know, school pride, something 95% of NIL’ers care nothing about.
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Posted on 4/27/25 at 10:25 am to CharlotteSooner
Texas has always out recruited the majority of college football. We were doing that through the worst era of our football program, which was pre-nil. Sarks staff turned it around. They actually developed the kids they inherited and brought in. Quinn definitely was apart of that movement.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 10:32 am to Freight Joker
My guess is last year’s injury log (playing in ”heathy” in only 3 games last year according to his camp) locked him in as a late round pick. He hasn’t played a season without him missing games to injury, and even though injury list looks random, it’s extensive enough to make it look like he is made of glass.
Now should he transferred for next year or playing in the NFL is an interesting finical choice. Take a $3-4M one year and hope to be healthy all year while burning the long term options associated with only playing at Texas or going to the NFL 4 years with a $1M a year salary?
My guess is that as long as he got drafted, this was the right decision. Better yet, him landing at Miami may get him several years as the #3 and become the cheap #2 clipboard holder and could have a solid career that way (at least financially and also qualify for the NFL pension).
The kid jus couldn’t stay healthy and I think many of the “self sacks” people talk about are tied to trying to protect himself while he was injured or from re-injury.
Now should he transferred for next year or playing in the NFL is an interesting finical choice. Take a $3-4M one year and hope to be healthy all year while burning the long term options associated with only playing at Texas or going to the NFL 4 years with a $1M a year salary?
My guess is that as long as he got drafted, this was the right decision. Better yet, him landing at Miami may get him several years as the #3 and become the cheap #2 clipboard holder and could have a solid career that way (at least financially and also qualify for the NFL pension).
The kid jus couldn’t stay healthy and I think many of the “self sacks” people talk about are tied to trying to protect himself while he was injured or from re-injury.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 10:38 am to narddogg81
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if I remember correctly he went to Ohio State initially
He committed to Texas (where he always wanted to be), realized he could graduate early, found out that (at that time) he couldn't legally make NIL $ while under 17 in Texas but could in Ohio, so he got a $1mill NIL deal and spent a year in Ohio State.
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Texas had a bit of success while he was there (if I remember correctly he went to Ohio State initially) but could anyone argue that it was due to Ewers (not in spite of him)
How many programs wish they could have gone to the CFP semifinals, and have been a play away from the national title games, the last 2 years? Ewers followed a consistent pattern. He would start the year looking like the best player in CFB. He would beat elite teams on the road by double digits. Then he would get hurt, and not be the same when he came back. He couldn't throw deep. He would hesitate and essentially sack himself. We never saw a full season of the real QE, but that is who he is. The NFL guys know his injury problems make him a poor bet for top tier NFL performance.
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More like weak schedules.
Look at who Texas plays on the road out of conference every year. This is a silly statement. By the way, I never heard the phrase "easy SEC schedule" until Texas joined and started winning most of its games.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 10:38 am to narddogg81
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He was one of the original big 'nil' recipients who kicked off this insane situation we have, and he failed to pan out. Sure, Texas had a bit of success while he was there (if I remember correctly he went to Ohio State initially) but could anyone argue that it was due to Ewers (not in spite of him) or the ridiculous sums he was paid? More like weak schedules. As more high profile kids who have received millions fail to pan out will the money start to dry up?
Nico straight up told him hold my beer. Ewers biggest failure was not taking a bag to go to Notre Dame or somewhere that he could get away from Sark's offense.
Sark is big on misdirection and having his QB turn his back to the defense all the time. That is not Ewers strength the way he throws the ball he needs to keep his eyes on the defense the entire time and deliver it ASAP. That Sark kept trying to fit the square peg into the round hole was infuriating and it left Ewers injured every year and basically gave him the QB yips which sucks for all parties involved.
What Quinn did do was provide legitimacy for Texas in our darkest hour and at every step of the way he acted like a consummate professional and beast of a human being including walking out for senior day vs Kentucky when we all knew his draft stock was going to suck.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 11:01 am to Victor R Franko
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Bigger NIL bust? Shaduer Sanders.
Nico says hello.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 11:06 am to Jeepin_Josh
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this draft is making the Georgia qb that transferred to Miami for another season making big money look like the smarter move.
Beavis big frickup was coming back for 2024 he should have gone to the draft after 2023. Once 2024 was on the books he absolutely did the right thing and took the biggest bag he could get on the open market. Ewers would have been MUCH better off had he followed suit hell even Sanders would have as well because then he would have a season of not playing for the ultimate narcissist coach.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 11:11 am to narddogg81
College va NFL isn’t the same.
Ewers missed out on a massive payday by not staying and opting for the draft. I don’t think he was ever going to see the field on a regular basis in the NFL and that’s okay. He still makes it to the promised land and gets a nice check holding a clipboard.
He was paid a kings ransom in college for his potential, and I think he came up a little short but won’t no means was a complete bust.
He’s only a symptom of NIL craziness.
Ewers missed out on a massive payday by not staying and opting for the draft. I don’t think he was ever going to see the field on a regular basis in the NFL and that’s okay. He still makes it to the promised land and gets a nice check holding a clipboard.
He was paid a kings ransom in college for his potential, and I think he came up a little short but won’t no means was a complete bust.
He’s only a symptom of NIL craziness.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 11:11 am to skrayper
So instead of making the playing field even, it will make the distribution of talent even worse?
Who is still trying to argue this is a good thing?
Any SEC Rant poster with a little orange longhorn cow thingie after their name for one.
Now admittedly Sarkisian has turned things around for UT and I counter that the ballot is still out on how long he can keep it up before the old bugaboo that kept whorns from winning it all consistently (i.e. their collective sense of entitlement) kicks in all over again.
The success saxet enjoyed prior to Sarkisian's arrival was almost always due to whorn players overpowering the opposition rather than coaching and player development.
Oklahoma has always had to play with a talent differential compared to saxet yet look up Bob Stoops or go back further and check out Barry Switzer's record vs whornies.
There's a reason coaching salaries are what they are, just too bad the college game now has to pay the players as if they are already in the NFL.
Who is still trying to argue this is a good thing?
Any SEC Rant poster with a little orange longhorn cow thingie after their name for one.
Now admittedly Sarkisian has turned things around for UT and I counter that the ballot is still out on how long he can keep it up before the old bugaboo that kept whorns from winning it all consistently (i.e. their collective sense of entitlement) kicks in all over again.
The success saxet enjoyed prior to Sarkisian's arrival was almost always due to whorn players overpowering the opposition rather than coaching and player development.
Oklahoma has always had to play with a talent differential compared to saxet yet look up Bob Stoops or go back further and check out Barry Switzer's record vs whornies.
There's a reason coaching salaries are what they are, just too bad the college game now has to pay the players as if they are already in the NFL.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 11:12 am to EastTXHorn
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Texas has always out recruited the majority of college football. We were doing that through the worst era of our football program, which was pre-nil. Sarks staff turned it around.
That was true until aggot went to the SEC and started paying recruits under the table. Then your recruiting fell off from its historical levels for several years while your program stayed mired in mediocrity and stagnation.
Your "resurgence" aligns entirely with your program standing up its NIL program overnight, outbidding everybody else at the last minute (= aggie method), and tampering with Georgia and Alabama WRs.
Well that......and the SEC giving you a candyland schedule for your first two seasons in the SEC because you'd spent the last decade licking windows on the short bus.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 11:13 am to Wishbone85
quote:Quinn was recruited to play QB at Texas.
From #1 recruit to 7th round draft pick.
QE started the gold rush of high profile, and high performance, HS athletes to Texas. His ROI to Texas is investing in Apple, early.
He de-pantsed Alabama before the cheap shot, led the Texas destruction of Alabama and Nick Saban, at home, and led Texas to a #1 ranking as they kicked open the door in joining the SEC.
He is the only QB in college football to make the CFP semi's the last 2 years. Oops! ... and Arch.
He is leaving Texas in a better place than any QB before him.
Most important, his performance ensured this will always be Exhibit 1 of Texas v. A&M.
This post was edited on 4/27/25 at 11:22 am
Posted on 4/27/25 at 11:22 am to narddogg81
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More like weak schedules.
He dropped his nuts on Bama in Tuscaloosa…
Posted on 4/27/25 at 11:25 am to JacieNY
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the ballot is still out on how long he can keep it up before the old bugaboo that kept whorns from winning it all consistently (i.e. their collective sense of entitlement) kicks in all over again.
This is just nonsense talk and gibberish.
Every school has boosters that want too much say-so. Every school has a fanbase that has inflated expectations.
Texas has 1 title in the last 50 years because we didn't cheat at the insitutional level. Of course, $100 handshakes happene evrywhere. Small thinsg happen everywhere. But high-level cheating, with the university involved, didn't happen everywhere.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 11:38 am to SneezyBeltranIsHere
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My school is the bestest and the only way anyone ever beats them is because they cheat and we don't.
Look at this fricking retard.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 11:45 am to CharlotteSooner
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texsa spent out-bidding everybody on the recruiting trail and tampering in the portal. Cash and Lambos!
Lmao don’t act like Barry Switzer and Oklahoma in general didn’t pay players under the table for years to get top recruits.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 11:53 am to LSUTigresFan
Oklahoma has always paid players hand over fist. I wonder how just about every one of their QBs you can name are transfers. They are the OG of pay to play in the portal.
Baker Mayfield
Jalen Hurts
Kyler Murray
Trevor Knight
Josh Heupel
Dillon Gabriel
Baker Mayfield
Jalen Hurts
Kyler Murray
Trevor Knight
Josh Heupel
Dillon Gabriel
Posted on 4/27/25 at 11:55 am to theyatoak
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Baker Mayfield
Jalen Hurts
Kyler Murray
Trevor Knight
Josh Heupel
Dillon Gabriel
Damn I don't think any of them ever lost to Texas
Posted on 4/27/25 at 11:57 am to All Gas No Brakes
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Just to be clear when we talk about Ewers’ NIL (and this is true for Arch as well) little to none of that comes from Texas or its boosters
If you think boosters aren't funding most of the NIL money, you're dumber than Bevo.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 12:02 pm to theyatoak
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Oklahoma has always paid players hand over fist. I wonder how just about every one of their QBs you can name are transfers. They are the OG of pay to play in the portal.
Baker Mayfield
Jalen Hurts
Kyler Murray
Trevor Knight
Josh Heupel
Dillon Gabriel
Probably because you're only 15 years old if that's all you can name. And you're really reaching here claiming any of these were "paid". Laughable...
Posted on 4/27/25 at 12:05 pm to All Gas No Brakes
Typical arrogant Texas response from a sub par program the last 50 years.
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