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re: Is College Football In A Death Spiral?
Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:52 am to CAbamafan
Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:52 am to CAbamafan
It's only going to get worse. And there is only a few things we can do to way fix the issue.
1- reduce the scholarships. Yeah I know but it will create a a more competitive atmosphere. It really needs to be around 70
2- then you have to expand the playoffs. Period. It should be around 12 teams if we really want to help the sport.
But I am like you. It's boring. It's one reason I look at other teams. I already know what games to look at and that's it. Boring.
So it's even helpful to the Bama teams
1- reduce the scholarships. Yeah I know but it will create a a more competitive atmosphere. It really needs to be around 70
2- then you have to expand the playoffs. Period. It should be around 12 teams if we really want to help the sport.
But I am like you. It's boring. It's one reason I look at other teams. I already know what games to look at and that's it. Boring.
So it's even helpful to the Bama teams
Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:52 am to cuddlefuddle
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I think expanding the playoffs could help a little. Give the lesser teams (that’s not Alabama or Clemson) more of a chance to make the post season.
Doesn't that make the problem worse though?
As it stands right now, the regular season, as someone already mentioned, is like pre-season NFL. It just doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is the playoff.
Ideally what you want is a P5 conference with no one else in conference remotely capable of beating you. Then you want to routinely have 4 touchdown wins all season long, and pump up the stats of your players (the media and recruits love that stuff).
Then after you've been talked up by the media all season, the playoff and the real two game season starts.
If you expand the playoff, you actually make it worse I think.
And on a related note, does the conference championship game serve much of a purpose now that no one is jockeying for media points and bowl seating?
As it stands now, it only benefits you to play in it for one reason: If you are a bubble playoff team, and actually winning it enhances your chances to be in the playoff.
Whereas most years Alabama would decline and let someone else go to Atlanta, were that possible.
I could actually see an undefeated Alabama and Georgia declining Atlanta trips (if they could), because there would literally be no upside to winning.
After all the playoff is the only thing, right?
Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:53 am to CAbamafan
*Warning:* Mid-40s monologue ahead; proceed at your own risk.
I think it’s a generational thing.
I’m Gen X, and I can’t relate to what you’re saying.
Subsequent “Internet” generations to mine (Generation Y, Millennials, Generation Z) have inflated expectations of reality, leading to unrealistic hopes and chronic disappointment—as evidenced by this thread.
That’s not directed at you; it’s just an overall observation.
Once the game becomes entirely about whether or not your team is in the running for a national championship, it loses its joy factor.
I think it’s a generational thing.
I’m Gen X, and I can’t relate to what you’re saying.
Subsequent “Internet” generations to mine (Generation Y, Millennials, Generation Z) have inflated expectations of reality, leading to unrealistic hopes and chronic disappointment—as evidenced by this thread.
That’s not directed at you; it’s just an overall observation.
Once the game becomes entirely about whether or not your team is in the running for a national championship, it loses its joy factor.
This post was edited on 9/15/19 at 10:54 am
Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:53 am to Sunbeam
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Over say a one loss Georgia?
If their loss is in the sec champ game and lsu loses on the road in a close game, while running the table, yes.
The sec east is complete garbage
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To be honest I'd probably prefer only one Southern team (whether SEC champ or Clemson), with the other 3 being from the PAC, Big 12, and Big 10.
lol ok
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Cause in the end it is about eyeballs, and I think I'd get more with say Oklahoma/Ohio State/Wazzou (Pirate baby, story writes itself)/whatever from the South.
Whereas I just don't think some combo of say LSU/Alabama/Clemson/one other would interest the rest of the country as much.
The rest of the country as in the west and northeast dont give a shite about football these days like the south and southeast
Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:54 am to Cheese Grits
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Pittsburgh vs Penn State is an old rivalry between above average CFB history teams. Penn State joins the B1G and the rivalry suffers from less media coverage because Pitt is not P5. Pitt joins ACC and becomes P5. Both now P5 and played a competitive game yesterday. Series has now been cancelled with no games on the horizon. Somehow this is good for football?
That’s a good example. Losing rivalries like WVU vs PITT, Mizzou vs KU, Nebraska vs Mizzou, Nebraska vs OU etc really hurt. There were a lot of smaller regional rivalries that Were always slug fests and people turned out for in droves.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:56 am to EKG
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Once the game becomes entirely about whether or not your team is in the running for a national championship, it loses its joy factor.
But that's what it is now.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:05 am to Sunbeam
so people in the poll era did not care about who was in the running for the national title.
it was just about their team playing in a random meaningless bowl game.
lol
it was just about their team playing in a random meaningless bowl game.
lol
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:07 am to CAbamafan
Too many teams scared to play each other ooc because of how the playoffs shite is set up.
1 loss and you’re basically out. The only thing that’ll help is expanding the playoffs imo
1 loss and you’re basically out. The only thing that’ll help is expanding the playoffs imo
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:09 am to sunnydaze
expanding playoffs makes the regular season less meaningful
can't wait for the bitter arguments over who should be the 8th seed. lol
Determining the top 4 is gonna be easier than determining the top 8.
can't wait for the bitter arguments over who should be the 8th seed. lol
Determining the top 4 is gonna be easier than determining the top 8.
This post was edited on 9/15/19 at 11:11 am
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:12 am to Tillman
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so people in the poll era did not care about who was in the running for the national title.
it was just about their team playing in a random meaningless bowl game.
lol
You can't even make a snide comment.
You've written dreck and you know it.
My guess is you are old enough to remember the bowl system, the true one we had before the BCS system.
Remember when everyone would be glued to the screen, waiting to see how the Sugar, Cotton, Orange, even Gator Bowls turned out?
And yeah, the bowls actually meant something to the teams and fans back then. Now it's just a decent location and what's in the swag bag.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:13 am to Sunbeam
i never had any more interest in bowls back then.
I might watch a game if it was competitive.
it isn't like bowl games went away. I enjoyed Clemson's recent bowl wins outside of the BCS/ playoffs against Ohio State, LSU and Oklahoma.
I might watch a game if it was competitive.
it isn't like bowl games went away. I enjoyed Clemson's recent bowl wins outside of the BCS/ playoffs against Ohio State, LSU and Oklahoma.
This post was edited on 9/15/19 at 11:17 am
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:14 am to CAbamafan
Wouldn’t go as far as death spiral but I do think if the trend continues of only 5 or 6 teams making the playoff I do think popularity may take a hit down the road. Maybe 7 or 8 years.
I hate to say it because my team is one of the 6 or 7 but I think it would be good for the game if a couple more teams could become competitive nationally. I think it would be good for the game if a PAC 12 team could be relative in the playoff discussion. I hate Southern Cal but a good Southern Cal is good for the game IMO. So is a good Michigan.
I hate to say it because my team is one of the 6 or 7 but I think it would be good for the game if a couple more teams could become competitive nationally. I think it would be good for the game if a PAC 12 team could be relative in the playoff discussion. I hate Southern Cal but a good Southern Cal is good for the game IMO. So is a good Michigan.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:18 am to EKG
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Once the game becomes entirely about whether or not your team is in the running for a national championship, it loses its joy factor.
The joy factor is gone in many different ways.
Traditions are routinely under attack as a whole. You cant have certain mascots even.
But game day traditions are not important anymore.
Mid day kick offs in 100 degree heat. Nobody wants to do that these days because we are soft. Hell alot of kids dont even play outside because the sun can give you cancer.
But there are ways to handle it
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:31 am to CAbamafan
Is this our weekly CFB is dying thread?
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:31 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Need to cut out the rent a wins and neutral site games. Maybe play one non conference gimme a year.
The NCAA should ban FBS vs FCS games and require FBS teams to play 9 regular season conference games.
This post was edited on 9/15/19 at 11:35 am
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:32 am to Jjdoc
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Traditions are routinely under attack as a whole. You cant have certain mascots even.
HA!
Trust me—I know.
Any traditions we have that aren’t like everyone else’s are maligned.
Think we care?
Heck no.
And collectively, we’re a very happy fanbase.
When you enjoy the small things (e.g., tailgate grub, traveling to away games with friends, old university traditions, being back on campus, watching young kids go from HS recruits to starting seniors, visiting fans, music, etc.), the game is anything but a death spiral; it’s one of life’s greatest pleasures.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:40 am to BreezyDawg
Are Americans really this sensitive and pathetic these days?.. For Christ sakes who the hell cares if you call them blacks. Black people are black and white people are white.. It wouldnt bother me at all if they called us whites.
This post was edited on 9/15/19 at 11:47 am
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:46 am to EKG
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When you enjoy the small things (e.g., tailgate grub, traveling to away games with friends, old university traditions, being back on campus, watching young kids go from HS recruits to starting seniors, visiting fans, music, etc.), the game is anything but a death spiral; it’s one of life’s greatest pleasures.
You live in a very different world than modern America
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:50 am to PEPE
Many things have hurt CFB recently, but I’ll select a few:
PLAYOFF - this added greater emphasis to be THE champ. Gone are the days where you will argue who was best after the season. This obsession to crown 1 champion has devalued many other great things about the sport, namely bowls, regional flavor, conference pageantry, etc.
CONF EXPANSION - too many teams have watered conferences down and killed rivalries. It’s a crime LSU won’t play Georgia more often. Instead we have manufactured trophy games that nobody gives a shite about.
FACILITIES RACE - stadiums have constantly expanded. This results in more empty seats, price disparities for good seats, and a more stake environment. Smaller stadiums would keep tickets in demand and create the rowdy atmospheres of year’s past.
PLAYOFF - this added greater emphasis to be THE champ. Gone are the days where you will argue who was best after the season. This obsession to crown 1 champion has devalued many other great things about the sport, namely bowls, regional flavor, conference pageantry, etc.
CONF EXPANSION - too many teams have watered conferences down and killed rivalries. It’s a crime LSU won’t play Georgia more often. Instead we have manufactured trophy games that nobody gives a shite about.
FACILITIES RACE - stadiums have constantly expanded. This results in more empty seats, price disparities for good seats, and a more stake environment. Smaller stadiums would keep tickets in demand and create the rowdy atmospheres of year’s past.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:58 am to CAbamafan
People have been saying this for decades.
There have always been haves and have nots.
Plus, it’s cyclical.
Moo U hasn’t been good historically. Ole Miss has been mediocre and worse for years with only episodic success. Alabama was doomed to mediocrity before Saban and, outside of Spurrier and Urban, UF has been meh.
USC is the right head coach from being a factor again. Think of Urban mining all that California talent.
What has college football boring is Bama and Clemson together with the CFP and the 12 game schedule filled with nobody nothings.
There have always been haves and have nots.
Plus, it’s cyclical.
Moo U hasn’t been good historically. Ole Miss has been mediocre and worse for years with only episodic success. Alabama was doomed to mediocrity before Saban and, outside of Spurrier and Urban, UF has been meh.
USC is the right head coach from being a factor again. Think of Urban mining all that California talent.
What has college football boring is Bama and Clemson together with the CFP and the 12 game schedule filled with nobody nothings.
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