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re: If Arkansas had to do it all over again, do you fire Bret Bielema?

Posted on 7/19/25 at 10:08 pm to
Posted by Frac the world
The Centennial State
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 7/19/25 at 10:08 pm to
quote:

Shaft Williams


Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
2069 posts
Posted on 7/19/25 at 10:08 pm to
People don't actually have conversations with themselves. Except for that crazy Tennessee fan. He's a schizo. Sometimes people just get each other, ya know.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
26661 posts
Posted on 7/20/25 at 12:12 am to
Yes.

He had future NFL starters on his teams and underperformed each season he was at Arkansas.

Posted by ukraine_rebel
North Mississippi
Member since Oct 2012
3630 posts
Posted on 7/20/25 at 5:57 am to
Yes, he had totally cratered by the time he left. He went 0fer his first year in the conference and was a fumble away from being 0fer his last year.
Posted by HenryV
Member since Jan 2024
331 posts
Posted on 7/20/25 at 10:49 am to
I wasn't aware of those revelations about excessive drinking and gambling. I assume he has stopped the bad habits. He has taken Ilinois from mediocrity to competitive in a fairly short time.
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
7648 posts
Posted on 7/20/25 at 1:42 pm to
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He had future NFL starters on his teams and underperformed each season he was at Arkansas.


Yeah we should have won way more than we did in 14 and 15 especially. He had among the worst records in the country for losing games after going into the 4th quarter with a lead. Even lost to Alabama 14-13 due to a missed XP lol.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
64416 posts
Posted on 7/20/25 at 2:43 pm to
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Now you have a guy whose health has improved in Fayetteville but he can't win shite.
Pittman already has a season that eclipses anything Bert did here.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
22009 posts
Posted on 7/20/25 at 3:19 pm to
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and he's taken Illinois to a level where they are knocking on the door to elite status

Glad to hear you think so highly of the job Drink has done at Mizzou.

On the cusp of elite with 6 more wins than Bert over the last two seasons in a much tougher conference, with a Cotton Bowl win over Ohio State, and a far better career winning percentage (.667 to .610)
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
17191 posts
Posted on 7/20/25 at 3:25 pm to
Bielema is not s good coach. Arkansas' problem was 100% Jeff Long.

...and Yurachek isn't any better.
Posted by Maytheporkbewithyou
Member since Aug 2016
13812 posts
Posted on 7/20/25 at 3:26 pm to
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I always liked Bielema at Wisconsin and he's taken Illinois to a level where they are knocking on the door to elite status.


Dude, he's 28-22, 18-18 at Illinois with much softer schedule than he had at Arkansas.

If anything, forcing Nutt out and firing Petrino were much bigger mistakes.
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
8603 posts
Posted on 7/20/25 at 5:00 pm to
Bert completely stopped trying his last year at Arkansas. Recruiting went completely dry.

If you’re asking if Bert is a good enough to coach to have stayed at Arkansas, then yeah probably.

If you’re asking if the 2017 version of Bert deserved to be fired, it’s an easy yes
Posted by Woopigsooie20
Me Scusi
Member since Mar 2010
59359 posts
Posted on 7/20/25 at 5:04 pm to
What do you not get about that he had a huge alcoholism problem here.
Posted by Hogo Stiglitz
Rogers
Member since Jun 2021
181 posts
Posted on 7/20/25 at 5:12 pm to
Ended up with a coach that lives at Oklawn. That Novell crap was just that. The order of the benevolent booger wanted Malzahn so bad they couldn't have someone better get hired. Then had no plan when Gus told them to kick rocks.
Posted by Hogo Stiglitz
Rogers
Member since Jun 2021
181 posts
Posted on 7/20/25 at 5:14 pm to
Did he though? Is one game worth the incompetence?
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
18245 posts
Posted on 7/20/25 at 5:18 pm to
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Dude, he's 28-22, 18-18 at Illinois with much softer schedule than he had at Arkansas.


Yet he got Illinois to beat South Carolina in the bowl game. Plus Bill Belichick helped him out big time. That actually saved his coaching career.
This post was edited on 7/20/25 at 5:23 pm
Posted by TriStateAreaFootball
Member since Dec 2024
1571 posts
Posted on 7/20/25 at 5:40 pm to
P5 Teams that Bert beat in his time as head coach -

1) Ole Miss
2) MSU
3) LSU
4) Tennessee
5) Auburn
6) Missouri
7) Texas Tech
8) Kansas State
9) TCU
10) Texas


P5 Teams that Sam has beaten in his time as Head Coach -

1) Ole Miss
2) MSU
3) LSU
4) Tennessee
5) Texas
6) Texas A&M
7) Missouri
8) South Carolina
9) Florida
10) Auburn
11) Penn State
12) BYU
13) Cincinnati
14) Kansas
15) Texas Tech


Sam had a better season in year 2 than Bert ever did. Even still, Sam will likely not be the coach next year.



Does this answer your question?

Posted by Clark14
Earth
Member since Dec 2014
26059 posts
Posted on 7/20/25 at 6:59 pm to
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Sam had a better season in year 2 than Bert ever did. Even still, Sam will likely not be the coach next year.


Bert went downhill when Sam left for Georgia. He knew he was screwed, he took a group of olinemen to Sam’s house and begged him to stay.

Sam was his best recruiter and coach and he couldn’t overcome it.

I don’t dislike Bert but he did a piss poor job of taking care of his football business and spent too much time partying and eating. He couldn’t handle the freedom of not being under Barry Alvarez’s thumb.
Posted by dirtsandwich
AL
Member since May 2016
6356 posts
Posted on 7/20/25 at 8:17 pm to
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If Arkansas had to do it all over again, do you fire


Petrino? That to me is what led the Hogs to where they are today. I think no is the answer.
Posted by Clark14
Earth
Member since Dec 2014
26059 posts
Posted on 7/20/25 at 8:58 pm to
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Petrino? That to me is what led the Hogs to where they are today. I think no is the answer.


Petrino is back in the role he’s best at, we’re going to see how that theory works out.

He started excelling after his first year here so we’ll see if history repeats itself.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
26661 posts
Posted on 7/20/25 at 9:58 pm to
Petrino didn't hire John L. Smith, Bert and Chad Morris.
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