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Posted on 3/15/24 at 8:02 pm to nicholastiger
Posted on 3/15/24 at 8:02 pm to nicholastiger
I do not participate in NIL, and am losing interest quickly in what is now professional sports played with one year contracts.
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Posted on 3/15/24 at 8:05 pm to nicholastiger
SMU baby!!!!
Let’s go Mustangs!
Let’s go Mustangs!
Posted on 3/15/24 at 8:08 pm to makersmark1
SMU has an endowment close to $2 billion. That is more than a few SEC schools.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 8:11 pm to Comancheria
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Oh no, Kentucky is finally going to start landing top recruiting classes.
Doesn't seem to matter
Posted on 3/15/24 at 9:22 pm to dchog
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The national champion Michigan has an endowment of $17 billion.
Texas has a $13 billion endowment.
Texas A&M has an endowment of $19 billion.
Alabama has a $1.09 billion endowment.
Washington has a of $4.9 billion endowment.
LSU has an endowment of $625 million
Um, endowment does not mean they spend all of it on football. If it did the Ivy-Leagues would clean up every year. Harvard has a $50 billion endowment.
Posted on 3/16/24 at 10:16 pm to TN Tygah
quote:This right here ^^
This is objectively not true. You say you only care about football, OK fine. Do you think Washington, Michigan, or Bama spent more money than Texas? A&M had 5 losses and LSU had 3, do you think LSU spent more money than A&M?
U dub made it to the national championship this past year, TCU did it the year before. Think either of those programs outspent anyone or stacked top 5 recruiting classes for years? There's much more to success than assembling the best players. (or perceived best players, recruiting services and coaching staff evals aren't foolproof) Even though nobody will admit it, sometimes sheer luck is involved...ball bounces left instead of right in a single game and it all goes poof.
Posted on 3/17/24 at 12:28 am to nicholastiger
College basketball has definitely lost a step with the G-league. Couple that with the European players and college hoops is progressively becoming an afterthought.
Posted on 3/17/24 at 7:13 am to GusAU
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Are you saying that, BEFORE NIL, players were transferring with no restrictions to any school that outbid his current school? And then transferring again the next year if someone came in with a higher bid? Again, with no restrictions?
I think the unrestricted transfers are more detrimental than the nil money
Posted on 3/17/24 at 7:31 am to nicholastiger
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Kentucky is expected to launch a NIL fund on Thursday with the purpose of making UK basketball the top NIL destination in college basketball.
Saying the are going to pay them above the table instead of below now?
Posted on 3/17/24 at 7:35 am to BluegrassBelle
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Are we really pretending this wasn’t happening before the NIL?
Players knew their school's fight songs before NIL and easy portals I will say.
Now they just feel like single year employees that will leave at the drop of a hat.
This post was edited on 3/17/24 at 7:37 am
Posted on 3/17/24 at 7:59 am to nicholastiger
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Won't it be kind of a hollow feeling that Team A won the title that was bought and paid for?
(laughs in Nick Saban)
(hides eyes in Mark Emmert)
Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:39 am to i am dan
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Players knew their school's fight songs before NIL and easy portals I will say.
Now they just feel like single year employees that will leave at the drop of a hat.
I think the thing you need to realize is that they leave "at the drop of a hat" these days because they can.
They would have left in previous years if they could have done so without penalty.
I'd think you'd have to go back a half a century or more to get players who were more attached to the University/team than they were to using a college football program as a vehicle to get to the NFL.
Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:49 am to nicholastiger
Nobody else has posted this. But seriously:
Posted on 3/17/24 at 10:08 am to Gunga Din
Some of you just need to accept that no one cares as much about a fricking school as they do their own future and well being. You don’t either. I was born just off the Alabama campus, raised a Bama fan, dad graduated from Bama, and I was a walk-on there for four years. But if Auburn offered to double my current salary to study Alabama film all day and try to help AU win the Iron Bowl, well, “War Eagle, motherfrickers.”
You also need to accept that you expect way too much out of student-athletes.
You want players who are.,,
1. NFL caliber talents who can create an exciting, high level game.
2. Players who put the school’s interests ahead of their own.
3. Players who are quality students who value a college education.
4. Players who are high character and won’t embarrass the school in spite of having a demeanor that allows them to excel in a violent game.
5. Players who are content with everyone around them making 6-8 figures off of their talent, hard work, and wear and tear on their bodies.
You want a roster full of Tim Tebow or Myron Rolle types and that shite ain’t happening. You have to give a bit. Very few players have it all. And since winning and a high level game are too damn important, it’s the loyalty, character, and quality student stuff that gets tossed out the window.
You also need to accept that you expect way too much out of student-athletes.
You want players who are.,,
1. NFL caliber talents who can create an exciting, high level game.
2. Players who put the school’s interests ahead of their own.
3. Players who are quality students who value a college education.
4. Players who are high character and won’t embarrass the school in spite of having a demeanor that allows them to excel in a violent game.
5. Players who are content with everyone around them making 6-8 figures off of their talent, hard work, and wear and tear on their bodies.
You want a roster full of Tim Tebow or Myron Rolle types and that shite ain’t happening. You have to give a bit. Very few players have it all. And since winning and a high level game are too damn important, it’s the loyalty, character, and quality student stuff that gets tossed out the window.
This post was edited on 3/17/24 at 10:31 am
Posted on 3/17/24 at 10:52 am to Barstools
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And that's why the Yankees and Dodgers win the world series every year, because money buys championships. When was the last time a team other than the Yankees or Dodgers won the WS? Has to have been decades ago, right?
My $.02 but this logic isn't the gotcha people think it is.
Stacking talent hits alot differently for basketball and football than it does for a more statistically random, variable sport like baseball. There's a reason baseball teams lose 30% of their games, and it's not coaching.
A better comp. would be soccer. And even that sees more upsets than football imo.
We already see NBA teams hoarding talent even with a salary cap.
Posted on 3/17/24 at 11:15 am to SaturdayNAthens
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Schools who have fans who don’t care enough and are not willing to contribute won’t do well. I
LOL at anybody that thinks the fan collectives are buying the players. It’s the wealthy boosters that are buying the players and UGA is among the vast majority that can’t match the money that s few programs have.
Eta that yes, I know that UGA has been one of the best recruiting teams in the nation, but it’s because Kirby Smart is a great recruiter. If he decides to go NFL or retire it will be a different story. There are a lot of wealthy businessmen in Georgia but most have no ties to UGA. Kirby Smart is among the vast majority of coaches that want and expect changes in NIL It will come eventually in some form or other.
This post was edited on 3/17/24 at 11:22 am
Posted on 3/17/24 at 11:41 am to John Milner
Way to show how ignorant you are about UGA, pal. Georgia has a LOT of very wealthy boosters as well as thousands and thousands of small donors and boosters. You can’t attend a football game in Athens without seeing folks being honored on the field for their astronomical contributions.
The state is also full of businesses who support UGA and will show that support by participating in NIL. Georgia is a wealthy school with the majority of their students coming from the private schools of north Atlanta. There is definitely no lack of money or future revenue at UGA. And now that there are basically no rules, get ready, the money for NIL will increase dramatically. Gonna donate some myself.
Keep telling yourself your little fantasy if it makes you feel better. But you should know that Georgia spends more money than any other program on recruiting, makes huge profits every year and doesn’t accumulate long term debt. And the wealthy donors are plentiful and generous.
You sound more jealous than informed about UGA and coming from a fan of Alabama that’s understandable. Bama is a dirt poor state where most of its inhabitants are hard pressed to buy a six pack much less donate money to Bama.
The state is also full of businesses who support UGA and will show that support by participating in NIL. Georgia is a wealthy school with the majority of their students coming from the private schools of north Atlanta. There is definitely no lack of money or future revenue at UGA. And now that there are basically no rules, get ready, the money for NIL will increase dramatically. Gonna donate some myself.
Keep telling yourself your little fantasy if it makes you feel better. But you should know that Georgia spends more money than any other program on recruiting, makes huge profits every year and doesn’t accumulate long term debt. And the wealthy donors are plentiful and generous.
You sound more jealous than informed about UGA and coming from a fan of Alabama that’s understandable. Bama is a dirt poor state where most of its inhabitants are hard pressed to buy a six pack much less donate money to Bama.
This post was edited on 3/17/24 at 11:45 am
Posted on 3/17/24 at 11:46 am to cas4t
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Have you been in a coma the last 50 years?
I think he is in one now.
Posted on 3/17/24 at 11:50 am to nicholastiger
Posted on 3/17/24 at 11:52 am to Pickle_Weasel
Looks like GrandPaw Saban yelling at the media. Ha
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