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re: How many colleges and universities will drop athletics altogether?
Posted on 6/22/21 at 11:12 am to Pastor Mike
Posted on 6/22/21 at 11:12 am to Pastor Mike
The 2019 NFL draft had 13 FCS players selected.
2 - 2*
11 - 0*
2 - 2*
11 - 0*
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Posted on 6/22/21 at 11:12 am to Pastor Mike
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But they do need to make a profit, no?
I'm not sure most ADs in the country make a profit currently anyhow. Football especially is an expensive sport. Could it become more difficult to fund if this ruling sets the precedent for a future case heard regarding payment/NIL? Sure but we're not there yet (this had to do with inadequate scholarships w/ athletes versus non-athletes if I'm not mistaken).
Posted on 6/22/21 at 11:12 am to TrendingRight
None. There will never be a shortage of young athletes who just want to keep playing, but aren't good enough for Power 5 schools, and who don't mind the added bonus of free tuition.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 11:14 am to TrendingRight
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Schools like Troy and Jacksonville State will never be able to compete with the big money schools.
They don't compete now, because big money players don't go there.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 11:15 am to Lg
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Because there are 4 other players on the court with said player and I've never seen a TEAM win with just one player playing. Why should he get $500 extra dollars from Jack's when the practice squad guy he practices against everyday has to work a part time job because he's not on scholarship?
The same reason that guy has a scholarship and the walk-on doesn't? He has a skill that is more valuable to the head coach (and that scholarship is worth way more than the $500 from the local fast food joint).
The same reason that the QB makes $25M and the left guard makes $2.7M.
This post was edited on 6/22/21 at 11:17 am
Posted on 6/22/21 at 11:19 am to Crowknowsbest
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So should Patrick Mahomes get paid the same amount as the rest of the players on the Chiefs? He wouldn’t be the same without them, after all.
You can't compare a business to college. That's why every scholarship is the same amount for EACH player. When you start allowing certain players the extra benefits because of individual accolades, then you are for sure going to see locker rooms split.
Back to Mahomes, if every one of his teammates decided they weren't going to play until they got paid as much as he did, there are two outcomes? What do you think they are?
Posted on 6/22/21 at 11:21 am to SummerOfGeorge
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The same reason that the QB makes $25M and the left guard makes $2.7M.
Would love to see the outcome if every OL would start demanding the same pay as qb. His skill set ain't jack without a line to block and a receiver to catch.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 11:22 am to Lg
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You can't compare a business to college
College sports are a business in every aspect except this one. Which is kind of the kick starter to all this.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 11:23 am to Lg
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Would love to see the outcome if every OL would start demanding the same pay as qb. His skill set ain't jack without a line to block and a receiver to catch.
I'd love to see the outcome if every assembly line worker demanded the same pay as the CFO. He can't make numbers work without their work piecing together parts.
That's pretty comrade-centric thinking.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 11:28 am to SummerOfGeorge
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College sports are a business in every aspect except this one. Which is kind of the kick starter to all this.
And that's why each scholarship is the same monetarily.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 11:42 am to Lg
How will NIL affect how the Networks advertise an upcoming game. Will players showcased in these advertisements be compensated ? The players will eventually unionize everything and agreements will be worked out. At some point it will start costing the Universities money, because you know the players will never be completely satisfied.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 11:45 am to Irons Puppet
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because you know the players will never be completely satisfied.
I can't imagine being a coach trying to hold a locker room together if/when this ever happens.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 11:46 am to Lg
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Back to Mahomes, if every one of his teammates decided they weren't going to play until they got paid as much as he did, there are two outcomes? What do you think they are?
The Chiefs would find new players
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You can't compare a business to college.
Why not?
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When you start allowing certain players the extra benefits because of individual accolades, then you are for sure going to see locker rooms split.
This happens at every stage of life. No team is comprised entirely of true equals.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 11:52 am to Lg
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And that's why each scholarship is the same monetarily
They are the same because the NCAA placed a cap on their compensation.
In other college sports with a scholarship count fewer than the amount of players on a team, certain players get bigger scholarships than others. This is the case in every sport but football and basketball.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 11:56 am to TrendingRight
I think it will happen with some major schools with football. Much easier to fund 12 guys playing basketball than 85 playing football. I would bet Vandy would love to have the space their stadium is taking up. They just keep it going to get their SEC paycheck.
School costs are already too high and most universities are funding athletics with student fees. If students don't bother showing up to the games, why keep it going?
School costs are already too high and most universities are funding athletics with student fees. If students don't bother showing up to the games, why keep it going?
Posted on 6/22/21 at 12:09 pm to Crowknowsbest
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This is the case in every sport but football and basketball.
Because these two generate the most income for the school. Other sports benefit from both of these and when their budgets are cut because of player compensation, then the other sports will go by the wayside as well. Instead of figuring out how to compensate the players, I would love to see each and every sport have full scholarships for each and every player on their rosters.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 12:13 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Why would a basketball player at Jacksonville State getting $500 a month from Jack's for a couple of billboards eating a chicken sandwich effect whether Jacksonville State can keep playing sports?
Why would Jacks pay a basketball player no one, even in Jacksonville, knows $500 a month?
Posted on 6/22/21 at 12:14 pm to Lg
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Because these two generate the most income for the school. Other sports benefit from both of these and when their budgets are cut because of player compensation, then the other sports will go by the wayside as well. Instead of figuring out how to compensate the players, I would love to see each and every sport have full scholarships for each and every player on their rosters.
At most schools football is BY FAR the most expensive sport and the biggest money loser.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 12:14 pm to SummerOfGeorge
My question is, when does the IRS now get involved with the Scholarship money for athletes? Thats the next big domino to fall
What that will lead to is schools dropping scholarships, and players just getting paid. And once that happens, 99% of NCAA athletes will be getting far less compensation than what they are getting now, as most arent worth close to 50k a year, and voila, college sports are done.
What that will lead to is schools dropping scholarships, and players just getting paid. And once that happens, 99% of NCAA athletes will be getting far less compensation than what they are getting now, as most arent worth close to 50k a year, and voila, college sports are done.
This post was edited on 6/22/21 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 6/22/21 at 12:18 pm to lsupride87
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My question is, when does the IRS now get involved with the Scholarship money for athletes? Thats the next big domino to fall
What that will lead to is schools dropping scholarships, and players just getting paid. And once that happens, 99% of NCAA athletes will be getting far less compensation than what they are getting now, as most arent worth close to 50k a year, and voila, college sports are done.
That's really good pride. The dominoes definitely look like they could fall that way.
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