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How many colleges and universities will drop athletics altogether?

Posted on 6/22/21 at 9:40 am
Posted by TrendingRight
Mentone
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Posted on 6/22/21 at 9:40 am
Most colleges and universities were operating their athletic departments at a deficit before this landmark ruling. They can't afford to pay players. How many colleges and universities will drop college athletics altogether?

Schools like Troy and Jacksonville State will never be able to compete with the big money schools. How many will fold up?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 6/22/21 at 9:42 am to
Why would a basketball player at Jacksonville State getting $500 a month from Jack's for a couple of billboards eating a chicken sandwich effect whether Jacksonville State can keep playing sports?

Is Jacksonville State going to fall way behind UT Martin, Austin Peay and Morehead State because of NIL rules? If not, then how exactly are they going to be forced to fold things up? The money is not transferring from the school to the player.......its transferring from private business to the player. This doesn't directly change anything in terms of the financials of athletic departments.
This post was edited on 6/22/21 at 9:47 am
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/22/21 at 9:42 am to
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How many will fold up?


Eventually, the overwhelming majority.

I think the bigger question is why that should be a problem.
This post was edited on 6/22/21 at 9:43 am
Posted by ColoradoAg
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Posted on 6/22/21 at 9:42 am to
The schools without decent football will fold up shop on the grid iron. They may just concentrate all their efforts on basketball or baseball instead where they can be more competitive.

Follow the DBU model, for example
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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Posted on 6/22/21 at 9:43 am to
Those two were competing with the big guys before the ruling
Posted by lewis and herschel
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Posted on 6/22/21 at 9:44 am to
While I hate the NCAA, I do not like the ruling as it throws out a 100 years of precedence. Huge crowds and money on the proper scale have always been big. Your payment is your scholarship and you dont have to play if you don't like it.

I feel this will ultimately damage the game as the rich just got richer and there will be an opposite reaction financially.

Like everyone in college, you are there to learn your trade to make a living post college. Have no issue with the stipend.
Posted by LouisvilleKat
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Posted on 6/22/21 at 9:44 am to
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 6/22/21 at 9:46 am to
Because of this ruling? None.
Posted by Pastor Mike
Florida
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Posted on 6/22/21 at 9:47 am to
How can you say that?

Almost all FCS schools are going to suffer from this
Posted by JCdawg
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 6/22/21 at 9:48 am to
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Most colleges and universities were operating their athletic departments at a deficit before this landmark ruling. They can't afford to pay players. How many colleges and universities will drop college athletics altogether?

Schools like Troy and Jacksonville State will never be able to compete with the big money schools. How many will fold up?




They will keep football and basketball only. The socialism everyone wants is currently in place by revenue sharing across all sports, basically what all the crybabies want. When it draws back to the revenue generating sports, football and basketball, it will have to move a capitalism setup with the revenue staying in the two sports bringing it in. When schools have to drop the rest of the sports, volleyball, soccer, etc. the argument will shift to sexism, and the r word that has 1500 definitions now.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 6/22/21 at 9:49 am to
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Almost all FCS schools are going to suffer from this



How are NIL laws going to negatively effect FCS schools? Now, if we get to a point of a school itself needing to supply an additional monetary stipend to players across the athletic department? Sure - that's going to destroy smaller budget schools.

NIL doesn't have anything to do with direct financial payments from schools to players. And it doesn't change anything in terms of where players go to school because kids at Jacksonville State and Samford aren't all of a sudden going to go to Alabama and LSU. They would have done that pre-NIL if they could. Their players just get smaller, more local deals with businesses.

Some Troy OL doing an ad for a Dothan outdoors store. Jax State players for Jack's. Etc, etc.
This post was edited on 6/22/21 at 9:52 am
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 6/22/21 at 9:50 am to
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How can you say that?

Almost all FCS schools are going to suffer from this

This doesn't require schools to pay players or give them more shite. It just says the NCAA can't prevent them from doing it. You can continue to offer what you currently offer.
Posted by Leto II
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Posted on 6/22/21 at 9:51 am to
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And it doesn't change anything in terms of where players go to school because kids at Jacksonville State and Samford aren't all of a sudden going to go to Alabama and LSU.

Exactly
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 6/22/21 at 10:03 am to
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How can you say that?

Almost all FCS schools are going to suffer from this


What law is making the schools themselves pay players? It’s not the NIL. NIL allows outside compensation.

This a big win for Olympic athletes too who have had to give up major endorsement deals and leave university teams just to get the financial benefits of being endorsed. And they don’t all attend your typical Power 5 schools.
This post was edited on 6/22/21 at 10:04 am
Posted by Pastor Mike
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Posted on 6/22/21 at 10:03 am to
What I am saying about the FCS is this - they already have a hard time making budget with the product they are able to put on the field. If students see a path to create income beyond the scholarships offered by the FCS schools, they will be trading schools constantly if they think it will improve their brand. FCS already struggles getting 3 star athletes. They won't be able to touch them after this
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/22/21 at 10:03 am to
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The money is not transferring from the school to the player.......its transferring from private business to the player. This doesn't directly change anything in terms of the financials of athletic departments.


The only way I see this hurting the financials of the athletic departments is if the private business had $X they donated to the school for football each year, now instead of giving $X to the school, they give $X minus whatever they paid straight to the players
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 6/22/21 at 10:05 am to
Major college athletic departments are cash machines.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/22/21 at 10:08 am to
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What I am saying about the FCS is this - they already have a hard time making budget with the product they are able to put on the field. If students see a path to create income beyond the scholarships offered by the FCS schools, they will be trading schools constantly if they think it will improve their brand. FCS already struggles getting 3 star athletes. They won't be able to touch them after this

How is any of this going to affect the budget of FCS schools? Again, no one is making them increase their budget.
This post was edited on 6/22/21 at 10:10 am
Posted by fanmeister
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 6/22/21 at 10:09 am to
"The money is not transferring from the school to the player...its transferring from private business to the player. This doesn't directly change anything in terms of the financials of athletic departments."

Guys - this ruling has nothing to do with NIL - that is a totally different matter. I'm hoping that this ruling will allow schools to offer more scholarships to college baseball teams. A lot of marginal pro players try it anyway because they can't afford college, so maybe this will open up more than 11.8 scholarships for a 30 man roster.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 6/22/21 at 10:12 am to
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feel this will ultimately damage the game as the rich just got richer and there will be an opposite reaction financially.



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