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re: How many colleges and universities will drop athletics altogether?
Posted on 6/22/21 at 10:34 am to pvilleguru
Posted on 6/22/21 at 10:34 am to pvilleguru
If you can't see how having an inferior product on the field isn't going to create further budgetary issues... then I can't help you
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Posted on 6/22/21 at 10:36 am to TrendingRight
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Schools like Troy and Jacksonville State will never be able to compete with the big money schools.
They don’t need to.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 10:38 am to Crowknowsbest
But they do need to make a profit, no?
Posted on 6/22/21 at 10:39 am to Pastor Mike
Trading two 3*s for 2*s isn't going to do shite. They already have a shite TV contract. They only averaged 7,800 fans per game in 2018. They aren't going to lose many fans over 2 players.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 10:40 am to Pastor Mike
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But they do need to make a profit, no?
Not necessarily. D3 schools have sports without profits or scholarships.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 10:41 am to Pastor Mike
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But they do need to make a profit, no?
No, they don't.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 10:41 am to pvilleguru
It WILL do excrement too. How many 2 stars get drafted v. 3 *s? Then there is a further ripple to all the other sports programs that can only survive on the profit made by their football team. You just don't WANT to see any other point of view
Posted on 6/22/21 at 10:45 am to Pastor Mike
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How many 2 stars get drafted v. 3 *s?
How many 3*s on FCS teams get drafted vs 2*s on FCS teams get drafted?
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Then there is a further ripple to all the other sports programs that can only survive on the profit made by their football team
Most football teams don't make a profit.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 10:46 am to pvilleguru
Ok. So we will just disagree about the impact of this. We can revisit in 10 years. I hope you are right. But what if you aren't?
Posted on 6/22/21 at 10:54 am to TrendingRight
Seems like people on this post don't realize the Supreme Court ruling only applies to academic related compensation. Remember Josh Dobbs (qb for Ten)? He worked unpaid internships for NASA and contractors for 2 summers through the engineering department. The ruling says now he would qualify for compensation because he was a GREAT student. This actually means the university athletics' department might not have to cut non-revenue sports because some GREAT students in Olympic sports can get compensated related to their academic achievements outside of the athletics departments. This will probably help all athletes, and the NCAA loses power, so it's a win-win. I'm sure this ruling will get abused, but in the short term at least athletes can get the same academic opportunities non-athletes have access too.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 10:57 am to Pastor Mike
There were 5 FCS players drafted in 2021 NFL draft.
1 - 3*
2 - 2*
2 - 0*
(According to 247)
1 - 3*
2 - 2*
2 - 0*
(According to 247)
Posted on 6/22/21 at 11:01 am to pvilleguru
Any FCS or even Group of 5 player who is making their college decision based on athletic branding or pro sports prospects needs to be realistic and get their priorities in order. If they beat the odds and become a legitimate pro prospect, that’s great (and with the transfer portal you can now make appropriate changes at that time), but that is so unlikely that planning for that outcome is preposterous.
This post was edited on 6/22/21 at 11:02 am
Posted on 6/22/21 at 11:01 am to TrendingRight
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Most colleges and universities were operating their athletic departments at a deficit before this landmark ruling.
This will kill college football in a lot of ways. The only really plausible path is for "salaries" to be set across the board and payments made directly by the NCAA. I can see a certain amount of TV money being set aside to make the payments.
Yes, conferences like the SEC will pay more than its fair share and lesser conferences (in terms of total revenue) will not pay as much. All will contribute to some degree but it won't be equal.
It is in everyone's best interest long term to keep college football viable with as many schools as possible. Otherwise they are cutting their own throat in the long run.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 11:03 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Why would a basketball player at Jacksonville State getting $500 a month from Jack's for a couple of billboards eating a chicken sandwich effect whether Jacksonville State can keep playing sports?
Because there are 4 other players on the court with said player and I've never seen a TEAM win with just one player playing. Why should he get $500 extra dollars from Jack's when the practice squad guy he practices against everyday has to work a part time job because he's not on scholarship?
Posted on 6/22/21 at 11:05 am to Lg
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Why should he get $500 extra dollars from Jack's when the practice squad guy he practices against everyday has to work a part time job because he's not on scholarship?
Because the guy getting $500 is a better player.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 11:05 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Why would a basketball player at Jacksonville State getting $500 a month from Jack's for a couple of billboards eating a chicken sandwich effect whether Jacksonville State can keep playing sports?
Is Jacksonville State going to fall way behind UT Martin, Austin Peay and Morehead State because of NIL rules? If not, then how exactly are they going to be forced to fold things up? The money is not transferring from the school to the player.......its transferring from private business to the player. This doesn't directly change anything in terms of the financials of athletic departments.
I don't think it's so much them being able to make money through NIL, but that ruling opened up pandoiras box. There was also another ruling IIRC allowing college athletes to unionize. That's a very dangerous road and would absolutely trickle down and potentially crush small G5 schools.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 11:08 am to SummerOfGeorge
quote:I'll take a fresh chicken biscuit from Jacks right now, you're making me hungry for one. Closest Jack's to me is 125 miles
Why would a basketball player at Jacksonville State getting $500 a month from Jack's for a couple of billboards eating a chicken sandwich
Posted on 6/22/21 at 11:09 am to Pastor Mike
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What I am saying about the FCS is this - they already have a hard time making budget with the product they are able to put on the field. If students see a path to create income beyond the scholarships offered by the FCS schools, they will be trading schools constantly if they think it will improve their brand. FCS already struggles getting 3 star athletes. They won't be able to touch them after this
I think the new transfer rules are going to have a more detrimental affect on FCS and JUCOs as far as getting solid talent than the ruling yesterday will. You won't see nearly as many players dropping down for a year now that they wouldn't to sit out if they transfer to another FBS school
Posted on 6/22/21 at 11:10 am to Crowknowsbest
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Because the guy getting $500 is a better player.
But he isn't without 4 other guys on the court.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 11:11 am to Lg
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But he isn't without 4 other guys on the court.
So should Patrick Mahomes get paid the same amount as the rest of the players on the Chiefs? He wouldn’t be the same without them, after all.
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