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Posted on 7/16/17 at 10:55 am to VABuckeye
Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:03 am to CNB
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Not really trying to single out Clemson, just the most recent example.
Of course not.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:08 am to IStillMissDanny
Think of every cupcake you've played in the past 10 years and put it on a schedule...that's BYU's 1984 schedule
Jesus, Alabama's 4th string could beat that slate with their eyes closed. Their bowl game was against a 6-6 team that they barely beat.
Jesus, Alabama's 4th string could beat that slate with their eyes closed. Their bowl game was against a 6-6 team that they barely beat.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:12 am to Weagle25
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It's funny how every championship team is "lucky"
Every one that I can remember has been lucky. If you have even one one-score win on your resume, you were one play away from losing that game - a tipped pass, a a fumble that bounces the wrong way, etc.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 12:06 pm to tigerburningbright75
If I remember correctly, Kentucky was a top 10 team when we played them that year. If you are going to lose to someone, losing to a Top 10 team in their house is not so terrible. Losing to Arkansas that year at home was BAD.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 12:31 pm to Weagle25
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It's funny how every championship team is "lucky"
You could say it's "lucky" to have bought the right quarterback, no?
Posted on 7/17/17 at 12:32 pm to vol017
There is nothing wrong with a little.....or for that matter a lot of luck in football. Luck is where preparation meets opportunity. The Syracuse game that year was just a good game. Both teams evenly matched and in the end Tennessee wins. However, the Arkansas game that year had a lot of luck involved. Arkansas has the game well in hand late into the fourth and on a routine punt where Tennessee has a return set up....the Arkansas long snapper snaps the ball over he punter's head and the punter has to kick the ball out of the end zone for a safety. Then after stopping Tennessee on the next possession , Arkansas starts moving down the field and all Stoerner really has to do is basically just run the ball straight ahead....Tennessee has 1 time out left and 1:50 on the clock and a 2nd down. If Stoerner just does a QB sneak, the game is essentially over....Tennessee would have taken the time out after second down with about 1:40 left. Arkansas runs a third down play and runs the clock down to about 55 seconds.....punt the ball and pin Tee Martin down way in his territory....game over.
But Nutt decides to have Stoerner do a pass and Stoerner trips over Burlsworth(RIP) who had been driven Back and he trips and leaves the ball on the ground....that was luck, but not the kind of luck you should ever apologize for.
But Nutt decides to have Stoerner do a pass and Stoerner trips over Burlsworth(RIP) who had been driven Back and he trips and leaves the ball on the ground....that was luck, but not the kind of luck you should ever apologize for.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 12:35 pm to KiwiHead
Double post
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 12:35 pm to KiwiHead
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the Arkansas long snapper snaps the ball over he punter's head and the punter has to kick the ball out of the end zone for a safety. T
Incorrect call. Should have been Tennessee's ball at the goal line. I think
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But Nutt decides to have Stoerner do a pass and Stoerner trips over Burlsworth(RIP) who had been driven Back and he trips and leaves the ball on the ground....that was luck, but not the kind of luck you should ever apologize for.
This isn't as lucky as people say it is. Billy Ratliff saw Tee Martin coming to the sidelines and told him to keep his gear on because he was going to get the ball back. On the ensuing play, Ratliff fired off the ball and knocked the guard back into Stoerner who fumbled. Was luck involved? Sure, but it was an effort play
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 12:37 pm to MizzouTrue
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But you guys lost to Michigan State
Yep. A bizzare play got it going for Sparty but once they had momentum they took full advantage of it.
The interesting thing is that Ohio State team didn't need and never got any luck in a game to win. Their closest win was a 10 point victory over A&M in the bowl game. Next closest game was 15 points.
This post was edited on 7/17/17 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 7/17/17 at 12:39 pm to PanhandleDawg
Yet Moo State hired one of the biggest cheaters in college football history in Jackie Sherrill and still couldn't win jack shite
Posted on 7/17/17 at 12:45 pm to tigerburningbright75
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1995 Ohio St. was supposed to wax Tennessee in the Citrus Bowl. They didn't. Just saying....
Agreed. Of course, that game was played in a monsoon which didn't help either team.
I'm not saying Tennessee didn't belong in the title game in 1998. They certainly did. My beef was their opponent in that game. Florida State got their hats handed to them at NC State but back then an early loss was more easily forgiven.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:25 pm to LSUbase13
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1.) Kick a last second field goal to win 34-33 against Syracuse
Beat Syracuse (who won the Big East that year) with Donovan McNabb at QB. Forced Syracuse to attempt 5 field goals that day.
quote:Tennessee held Florida to -13 yards rushing on 30 attempts.
2.) Florida misses the field goal in OT; 20-17 Tennessee
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3.) Stoerner fumble picture
The possession before that, Arkansas had a bad snap. The punter kicked the ball from the 1 yard line through the back of his own endzone. Tennessee was awarded a safety on a bad call. The rules at the time called for UT getting the ball from the point where it was kicked through the endzone. So, instead of relying on a fumble and then running it down Arkansas' throat...UT should have had the ball down 24-20 with 3 minutes left. So, despite a bad call, UT still found a way to win.
quote:Outzen was good enough to beat Florida handily, while they were blown out by NC State with Weinkie starting...
4.) Faced Florida State's third-string quarterback to secure a 23-16 win.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:29 pm to VABuckeye
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My beef was their opponent in that game. Florida State got their hats handed to them at NC State but back then an early loss was more easily forgiven.
If I'm an Ohio St. fan I can certainly make an argument that the Buckeyes belonged in that title game. I recall that the debate was between Ohio St., Florida St., UCLA, & Kansas St. In hindsight both UCLA and Kansas St. lost their bowl games and the Big Ten was pretty strong in 1998, as the bowl games showed. But prior to the bowls there was no accurate way to judge which team had played the strongest schedule.
This post was edited on 7/17/17 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:30 pm to LSUbase13
I would say the majority of teams that win the national championship have two or three plays that go their way during the season that could have derailed their championship.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:34 pm to VABuckeye
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My beef was their opponent in that game. Florida State got their hats handed to them at NC State but back then an early loss was more easily forgiven.
While hindsight is 20/20 (most if not all, would agree now that OSU was probably more deserving that FSU), in their final 3 weeks of the season FSU beat the #12 team by 31 points and the #4 team by 11. It was that win over Florida that probably gave them the nudge over OSU.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:45 pm to boXerrumble
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98 Tennessee had a shite ton of NFL talent. 2007 LSU would've been lucky to keep that game within single digits.
People have forgotten how stacked that team was hence this silly thread topic.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 2:29 pm to Prof
quote:How stacked was Tennessee in 1998 with future NFL players? I know Al Wilson and Peerless Price were drafted and played in the NFL. Jamal Lewis was great with the Ravens but he was out for the season in 1998. Who else?
People have forgotten how stacked that team was hence this silly thread topic.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 2:46 pm to tigerburningbright75
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I know Al Wilson and Peerless Price were drafted and played in the NFL. Jamal Lewis was great with the Ravens but he was out for the season in 1998. Who else?
1st and 2nd round picks on that team:
John Henderson (1st), Al Wilson (1st), Peerless Price (2nd), Jamal Lewis (1st), Shaun Ellis (1st), Raynoch Thompson (2nd), Chad Clifton (2nd), Dwayne Goodrich (2nd), Casey Coleman (2nd), Deon Grant (2nd), Travis Henry (2nd)
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