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How long before there is a shift back to run heavy football?
Posted on 10/28/26 at 12:33 am
Posted on 10/28/26 at 12:33 am
Looking at these O lines lately, if a coach could sneakily put together a line with the size and speed of the 2009 to 2015ish teams... He could run the table the first year.
The D lines are 20-30lbs lighter than they used to be while on average being the same speed.
I make this post every few months, but it's true. They have traded speed and strength for general athleticism...and I just don't know if it can hold up to smash mouth football
The D lines are 20-30lbs lighter than they used to be while on average being the same speed.
I make this post every few months, but it's true. They have traded speed and strength for general athleticism...and I just don't know if it can hold up to smash mouth football
Posted on 10/28/26 at 12:39 am to X123F45
As a huge trend?
Never.
Football has gotten too good at the passing game.
Will there be a team here and there that are power run dormant in college? Of course.
Never.
Football has gotten too good at the passing game.
Will there be a team here and there that are power run dormant in college? Of course.
Posted on 10/28/26 at 1:18 am to X123F45
I really miss I-Form and neck rolls.
Posted on 10/28/26 at 8:04 am to X123F45
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How long before there is a shift back to run heavy football?
Bielema is praying for College Football to go back to 3 yds in a cloud of dust.
Posted on 10/28/26 at 8:09 am to X123F45
Have you watched Tennessee under Heupel?
Tennessee has been a run-heavy team for years.
Tennessee has been a run-heavy team for years.
Posted on 10/28/26 at 8:11 am to X123F45
UGA is probably the closest thing to a 2000s football team. It is interesting. That play will get you 10 wins, but can it win a title now? I like the consistency it brings.
Posted on 10/28/26 at 8:16 am to X123F45
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How long before there is a shift back to run heavy football?
UGA has kind of leaned on that, at least more so than other schools. We have definitely opted for the python, wear you out, run the ball the whole 4th quarter school of thought opposed to high flying wide open offenses.
I think it's cyclical like most other things we've seen in CFB.
-For decades all anyone did was run. Run, run, pass, punt.
-Hal Mumme, Miek Leach, Steve Spurrier, et all ushered in a high flying pass attack and it really caught people off guard. People were throwing it all over the place in the 90s wiht great success since everyoen else hadn't really caught up yet.
-In the early 2000s things kind of went back to "normal" and it was all run game and denfese (at least in the SEC). That's what most people were doing and it's how saban won a frick ton.
-Around the late aughts early teens things shifted. Saban had behemoths in the middle of the line and linebackers that looked like busses so the very, very few teams that had success against them did it by passing it all over the place and having a mobile QB.
-Saban took that personally and said ok I'll do what you're doing only much better. Enter sark and kiffin and then bama started throwing it everywhere adn then once they did that was like the green light for everyone else to start doing it too.
-Eventually since everyone plays taht style now, the old school run heavy pro-style teams are the oddballs, but coincidentally that leads to a high rate of success, IMO. I think you can make a case that 10 years from now we'll be back to pro style old school ball instead of going 4 wide and throwing 50 times a game.
Posted on 10/28/26 at 8:16 am to cajunbama
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Football has gotten too good at the passing game.
Also the rules/officiating favor the passing offense much more.
Posted on 10/28/26 at 8:16 am to X123F45
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I just don't know if it can hold up to smash mouth football
Speed kills. If you can get 3 guys to the ball as fast as 2, you stop big or small.
Rules favor passing and scoring so much it keeps the passing game more likely to dominate. Seems every few years when defenses start catching up to offenses, the rules committee make adjustments to the offensive sides advantage. Supposedly fans want scoring and passing excitement.
Until rules change to favor running, rushing will never again be king.
Ultimately, smash mouth football can be stopped with speed. We can confirm with the death of the wishbone (4 of your best rushers) and the I-formation,(3 of your best rushers).
Even in high school ball. Used to be your best athlete(s) on the team were the running backs and a QB. Now it's the WRs and a QB.
Posted on 10/28/26 at 8:22 am to X123F45
A power run offense would need to be paired with a really, really good defense. A run dominated offense kills time and lowers the total number of possessions so if you are playing a really good offensive team, it will be hard to keep up if you fall behind on the scoreboard.
Posted on 10/28/26 at 8:25 am to X123F45
Teams have to have an experienced Oline that has played significant snaps together and gelled. All the statistics show the transfer portal does not allow that and Oline play has steadily gotten worse when it comes to run blocking the last 5-6 years.
Posted on 10/28/26 at 8:27 am to AUCE05
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That play will get you 10 wins, but can it win a title now?
In the BCS era it could.
Playoffs? You gotta have a playmaker under center. No exceptions.
Posted on 10/28/26 at 8:40 am to KirbyYourEnthusiasm
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I really miss neck rolls.
I see shitloads of neck rolls anytime I shop at Walmart.
Posted on 10/28/26 at 8:44 am to 3down10
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Nebraska is like...
Their offense was a thing of beauty
Posted on 10/28/26 at 8:52 am to X123F45
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Looking at these O lines lately, if a coach could sneakily put together a line with the size and speed of the 2009 to 2015ish teams... He could run the table the first year.
The D lines are 20-30lbs lighter than they used to be while on average being the same speed.
I make this post every few months, but it's true. They have traded speed and strength for general athleticism...and I just don't know if it can hold up to smash mouth football
Mobile QBs who can pick up 2-3 first downs on third down running the ball is going to be problematic in CFB for the foreseeable future...it means 11 on 11 instead of 11 on 10 with the advantage to the defense. Running the ball in the traditional sense was and still is the most important aspect of an offense - those 2-3 yard gains in the first quarter turn into 4-5 yard gains in the second half which means linebackers and the secondary has to spy the run game...those 2-3 yard runs are HARD on defensive linemen over time...its the leading cause of hands resting on hips while the tackle is gasping for air. Its easier on the offensive lineman because a good bit of what they are doing is merely driving forward or stunting/pulling and having the advantage of knowing when the ball is going to be snapped. That doesn't sound like much of an advantage but every small advantage helps over 60 minutes of wresting with a fricking bear.....
Posted on 10/28/26 at 9:03 am to PJinAtl
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Also the rules/officiating favor the passing offense much more.
Amen. I don't think anyone can define Defensive PI in how its called in a game. The same is true of holding....it is, at times, called pretty loosely. Between holding not being called and PI being called and adding in the odd late hit on the QB It is might near impossible to defend the pass without some occasional costly mistakes.
Its also highly unlikely when a QB is scrambling for his damned life that someone ain't further than 3 yards downfield who ought not be...especially when the QB has started for the LOS and pulls up and throws a pass.
Finally intentional grounding ought to include the QB above running all over the damned place and then throwing the ball 3 rows up in the stands. It should only be OK when they are outside the tackle box and the tackle box ought to move with the play, not remain where the ball is snapped when the damned QB has crossed the field 3 times and has 3 defenders breathing down his neck the entire time. It ought to at least as damaging as a false start.
Posted on 10/28/26 at 9:10 am to Victor R Franko
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Even in high school ball. Used to be your best athlete(s) on the team were the running backs and a QB. Now it's the WRs and a QB.
This is spot on. The offensive line play in High School, hell even in youth football, is infinitely more complicated than it was in the 70s and 80s. Pass blocking is damned hard and it ain't in the nature of fat fricks to not fire off the ball and knock shite over...that is what we are good at....back peddling and slap boxing is not our forte - yet they do it at all levels of football now and they are good at it. On the other side of the ball passing requires all manner of complicated shite that is damned hard to do....it makes the game infinitely more complex and it keeps the pressure on the defense over and over and over again.
What is truly pretty to behold is a short passing game that is basically long handoff...when it is done right it is almost impossible to defend and the pressure builds and builds until someone misses a tackle and some speedy fricker is streaking down the field.
Posted on 10/28/26 at 9:11 am to KirbyYourEnthusiasm
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I really miss I-Form and neck rolls.
frick that, I don’t.
Posted on 10/28/26 at 9:13 am to X123F45
I think it's coming. The middle tier teams will have to do it, go 10-2/9-3, and start beating the big dogs.

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