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Posted on 8/27/26 at 1:18 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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Legally, these are not the same. You can't try and hang your hat on semantics around this and then completely ignore the actual differences in the cases and the actual rules.
Legally one got compensated in Spain or Israel etc one got compensated by a US organization.
Try explaining without using “it’s just different”
Posted on 8/27/26 at 1:27 pm to John Casey
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he was already out of eligibility and would have automatically been draft eligible.
One has nothing to do with the other. College Juniors are draft eligible.
Posted on 8/27/26 at 1:35 pm to Adam Banks
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Legally one got compensated in Spain or Israel etc one got compensated by a US organization.
Try explaining without using “it’s just different”
One there is a NCAA rule that you lose the reaminder of your college eligibility if you declare for the professional league and enter the draft, and sign professional contract. The other there is a NCAA rule that governs ones ability to play for club teams overseas and still keep college eligiblity, but it is highly regulated.
Likewise, a player cannot play in college, then go and play for a european club team, and keep college eligiblity. You'd have an argument that legally the cases would be the same if that was happening. It's not though.
Legally they are different scenairos because legally there are different rules and bylaws that enforce them.
This post was edited on 8/27/26 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 8/27/26 at 1:37 pm to Adam Banks
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The SEC has just selectively chosen not to punish Ole Miss for having a player that has a TRO against the NCAA.
They will have to defend this in court.
Thus the SEC will likely have to choose to either punish everyone who plays with an ineligible player or no one.
This is correct. This is what it will come to.
Posted on 8/27/26 at 1:38 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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One there is a NCAA rule that you lose the reaminder of your college eligibility if you declare for the professional league and enter the draft, and sign professional contract.
Chris Weinke.
Josh Booty.
Russell Wilson
Posted on 8/27/26 at 1:40 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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One there is a NCAA rule that you lose the reaminder of your college eligibility if you declare for the professional league and enter the draft, and sign professional contract. The other there is a NCAA rule that governs ones ability to play for club teams overseas and still keep college eligiblity, but it is highly regulated.
Likewise, a player cannot play in college, then go and play for a european club team, and keep college eligiblity. You'd have an argument that legally the cases would be the same if that was happening. It's not though.
Legally they are different scenairos because legally there are different rules and bylaws that enforce them.
All of the players being discussed here are ineligible per the NCAA.
The SEC seems to be picking and choosing which of those ineligible players they'll punish schools for playing though.
Posted on 8/27/26 at 1:42 pm to Adam Banks
So, you just not know what the NCAA rules are or what?
Posted on 8/27/26 at 1:46 pm to SidewalkTiger
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All of the players being discussed here are ineligible per the NCAA.
Correct. Have I argued otherwise?
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The SEC seems to be picking and choosing which of those ineligible players they'll punish schools for playing though.
Not really. They've stepped in at the point that entire NCAA rules have been rendered obsolete by courts. Otherwise, they've let the court battles for individual cases proceed throught he courts. The difference here is that the court rulings are not player specific. Because the flood gates have opened, they are stepping in. If you want to argue they could have sooner, I'm fine with that argument, but I think this woe is me stance that they are just picking favorites is beyond silly.
Chambliss is a court case around his medical waiver. If there was a court case challenging the entire rule around medical waivers, i'd expect the SEC to step in as well. An individual case, they've generally allowed the court proceedings unfold.
ETA: personal opinion but I think ultimately NCAA wins out on Chambliss case.
This post was edited on 8/27/26 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 8/27/26 at 1:53 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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Not really. They've stepped in at the point that entire NCAA rules have been rendered obsolete by courts. Otherwise, they've let the court battles for individual cases proceed throught he courts. The difference here is that the court rulings are not player specific. Because the flood gates have opened, they are stepping in. If you want to argue they could have sooner, I'm fine with that argument, but I think this woe is me stance that they are just picking favorites is beyond silly.
I don't think they're picking favorites, I think Pavia and Chambliss are one off situations, like you said, and I think the good publicity probably outweighs the bad as far as both being Heisman contenders, etc.
I think in the Lane situation, the opposite is the case. These are mostly reserves who bring a ton of negative publicity.
I still think it's incredibly short-sighted by the conference to not enforce their own rules consistently. Either lean on the courts or don't, don't let the courts decide here and you decide there. Just my opinion, but it keeps driving this Wild West mentality when the conference doesn't draw clear lines in the sand.
Maybe that's their goal though, maybe they want it to continue to be a cluster so Congress steps in.
Posted on 8/27/26 at 1:54 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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Not really. They've stepped in at the point that entire NCAA rules have been rendered obsolete by courts. Otherwise, they've let the court battles for individual cases proceed throught he courts. The difference here is that the court rulings are not player specific. Because the flood gates have opened, they are stepping in. If you want to argue they could have sooner, I'm fine with that argument, but I think this woe is me stance that they are just picking favorites is beyond silly.
Chambliss is a court case around his medical waiver. If there was a court case challenging the entire rule around medical waivers, i'd expect the SEC to step in as well. An individual case, they've generally allowed the court proceedings unfold.
ETA: personal opinion but I think ultimately NCAA wins out on Chambliss case.
If the SEC had this rule before the TRO was granted, they would have a much better case. But doing it after the TRO means it is targeted at the group who are allowed to play due to a judge. Meaning the SEC is ignoring other players ruled ineligible but a judge allowing them to play and focusing on just these.
The inconsistency is part of why the NCAA keeps losing in court. Either you fight for your rules or you lose the ability to govern by those rules. And now the SEC is falling into the same trap.
If they came out said they would punish any school who plays an ineligible player, I think they would have a better shot, but they wouldn't get full support since so many schools are doing that this year.
Posted on 8/27/26 at 2:01 pm to SidewalkTiger
The Pavia issue is a whole other can of worms because it involved Antitrust protections. Which, really kept them from being able to do anything themselves. Once the final ruling came down, the NCAA pretty much immediately granted a blanket waiver, which SEC accepted. So, ultimately there just wasn't much the SEC could legally do here. The league has a little more of a leg to stand on for these cases than it did for the Pavia case.
Is all of this beyond dumb? Absolutely.
Is all of this beyond dumb? Absolutely.
This post was edited on 8/27/26 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 8/27/26 at 2:04 pm to this board
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One has nothing to do with the other. College Juniors are draft eligible.
Draft eligibility wasn’t the point of my post.
The point was that Trinidad did not need to declare for the draft because he was already out of eligibility and was automatically in the draft.
As long as his court decision came before the NFL Draft (which it did), he was fine and didn’t need to declare by January deadline like draft eligible juniors.
Posted on 8/27/26 at 2:07 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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The Pavia issue is a whole other can of worms because it involved Antitrust protections. Which, really kept them from being able to do anything themselves. Once the final ruling came down, the NCAA pretty much immediately granted a blanket waiver, which SEC accepted. So, ultimately there just wasn't much the SEC could legally do here. The league has a little more of a leg to stand on for these cases than it did for the Pavia case.
If the NCAA makes the players eligible there's nothing you can do, I'd just like to see the SEC either go by the rules or not, either let the courts decide or not.
If the NCAA declares a player ineligible, they shouldn't play. Otherwise, we just need to break from the NCAA. Although, it doesn't seem like the SEC will likely operate any better on these issues.
Posted on 8/27/26 at 2:50 pm to John Casey
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Draft eligibility wasn’t the point of my post.
Then why was it the focal point of the post?
Posted on 8/27/26 at 3:04 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
Cry, bitch.
Posted on 8/27/26 at 3:07 pm to this board
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Then why was it the focal point of the post?
It wasn’t…….
I quoted a post about declaring for the draft and immediately pointed out that Trinidad didn’t have to declare because he was out of (college) and eligibility.
In hindsight, I guess I could have said “automatically entered into the draft” instead of
Posted on 8/27/26 at 3:09 pm to John Casey
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I quoted a post about declaring for the draft and immediately pointed out that Trinidad didn’t have to declare because he was out of (college) and eligibility. In hindsight, I guess I could have said “automatically entered into the draft” instead of
Technically still false. You still are required to enter yourself into the draft.
Posted on 8/27/26 at 3:21 pm to OleVaught14
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professional athletes returning to college
College freshmen are making millions. What is a professional athlete?
Posted on 8/27/26 at 3:43 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
How come your pussy continually bleeds all over this board?
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