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Hopefully Florida has learned to have Kiffin lined up before firing Billy

Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:46 am
Posted by Jack Daniel
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:46 am
Florida needs to learn from other school’s disastrous past hiring processes like Tennessee. You don’t fire a guy until you have one lined up. Kiffin is so desperate to get out of Oxford I’m sure he would agree to terms prior to leaving.
Posted by Chawboy
Texas
Member since Feb 2013
1003 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:47 am to
Maybe Kiffin will leave before the LSU game.
Posted by JayAg
Member since Jun 2021
14331 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:51 am to
Is going from Ole Miss to Florida considered an upgrade or lateral move for Lane?
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
15247 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:52 am to
quote:

Florida needs to learn from other school’s disastrous past hiring processes like Tennessee. You don’t fire a guy until you have one lined up. Kiffin is so desperate to get out of Oxford I’m sure he would agree to terms prior to leaving.


They are going to wait until Christmas? After the early NSD and 2 weeks after the portal window opens? Good luck with that.
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
16569 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:56 am to
This is so comical how LSU fans are trying to will this move. They know that with Lane at Ole Miss they are not going to be able to compete. They feel entitled to be superior to Ole Miss.

News flash: 5 out of the last 11 years have been losing seasons at Florida. This year will make 6 in 12.

Florida has a toxic culture of running off coaches before they have time to rebuild.

The NIL at Florida is behind the 8 ball. They have made offers to pay recruits only to renege.


Lane is like Saban at Ole Miss. he owns the program and controls everything.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61043 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 9:03 am to
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They know that with Lane at Ole Miss they are not going to be able to compete.


Lane is .500 vs LSU at Ole Miss.

This includes two years where LSU went a combined 11-12, a year where Lane faced a lame duck coaching staff, and a coaching change.

During BK's tenure at LSU, BK is 22-8, Lane is 22-7, the difference being LSU's SECCG game loss. This is BK during his first two seasons vs Lane's year 3 and year 4.
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7503 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 9:31 am to
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Florida has a ... culture of running off coaches....


....that don't work out.

Like Alabama, Florida doesn't keep a coach long if it becomes apparent he can't produce a title contending team.

Speaking of which, what team has made it to the SEC title game and won more SEC title games than any other team not Alabama ?

Yep. The University of Florida be that team. Paul Bear Bryant said a long time ago that if UF gets it together, they will be hard to beat (paraphrased), and since they have accomplished that, they won't be content for long to be mediocre. This won't be a Tennessee situation, wandering in the wilderness for 20 years or whatever.

So the administration is anti football ? Guess another SEC administration that seemed to be anti football. Alabama in the mid to late 1980s. It turned out ok.

The state of Florida produces more elite football players than any state in the nation, including California and Texas. UF is the keystone University in that state, and a lot of weatlhy alums.

Sounds like a lot of UF fear to me.

edit: but I like Ole Miss and hope they do well, and I'm not talking to you. I'm talking to all the people hoping UF doesn't get it together, but they know better. I have no idea what Kiffin will do, but I like him too, wherever he coaches. He seems like a younger Steve Spurier to me. Cocky, funny, unrepentant, great offensive minded coach. He and Sarkisian were the best offensive coordinators and play callers, at Alabama, in my lifetime.
This post was edited on 9/19/24 at 9:39 am
Posted by UFMatt
Proud again to be an American
Member since Oct 2010
12462 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 10:10 am to
Agreed, you need to have a plan, I believe that is why Napier still has a job today. UF doesn't have a plan to finish the season, not just how to replace him long term. When it comes to football Stricklin is clueless, at women's tennis or volleyball, other minor sports and fund raising, he is a Genius.
Posted by Go Go Gata
Member since Oct 2016
3198 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 10:18 am to
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Florida has a ... culture of running off coaches....


UF has a culture of hiring guys they shouldn't and its crashed the program.
UF (Foley) was always trying to find young, up and coming coaches or coaches on the rise from from G5 level. Similar to what happened with Billy Donovan. Seems like they never understood "fit" neither.


Hopefully that's changing.
Here's a top booster yesterday:

The other donor added that Florida’s customary approach of hiring a young up and comer appears to have failed the football program for the third time in the past 4 hires.

“As a university, we have tried the young names with great records but no power conference experience. It doesn’t work in this era of the sport. If and when we are ready, this search will be for a premier and proven name.





LINK
This post was edited on 9/19/24 at 10:21 am
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
45920 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 10:18 am to
I don't think Kiffin is going to Florida.

I am hopeful we can hire a good coach, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
45920 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 10:20 am to
quote:

When it comes to football Stricklin is clueless, at women's tennis or volleyball, other minor sports and fund raising, he is a Genius.


He has upgraded our facilities, period.
Posted by robvols
Member since Jan 2024
1005 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 10:21 am to
Nope

-Daughter is attending school

-Family moved up there

-Son moving up to Oxford next Fall

Expect to be turned down.
Posted by generalgator87
Member since Nov 2022
479 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 10:25 am to
He's not a genius for other sports. He has a couple of hires that are TBD (like Golden). The only hire that has had success is Nesty with swimming, but Nesty is an alumni who was promoted from assistant.

quote:

Here's the record of coaches hired by Scott Stricklin vs. those he inherited.

Stricklin: 200-193-11 (0.495)
Non-Stricklin: 1461-591-8 (0.709)

Stricklin: 8 conf. titles*
Non-Stricklin: 12 national titles, 31 conf. titles, 11 conf. tourney titles


Thomas Goldkamp Twitter
Posted by brambo
Member since Aug 2018
177 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 10:39 am to
Foley robbed money from the football program to pump up the non revenue generating sports in search of his beloved Directors Cup. A vanity project trophy which means nothing to anyone on the planet except for the athletic directors of ~10 schools which have athletic programs large enough to compete for it.

The rest of the sports suffering is good news. Although, I doubt Stricklin is producing good value for the money in much of any sport. I'm not defending Stricklin, I'm just saying Foley was out of his mind in his decision to siphon money off of football to support womens lacrosse or some of these other sports and we shouldn't expect the same level of success.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7341 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 10:42 am to
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Is going from Ole Miss to Florida considered an upgrade or lateral move for Lane?


Upgrade due to talent.

If the blue chip ratio holds, then you can't win a national title at Ole Miss.

The blue chip ratio is the idea that you need at least 50% of your roster to be 4 or 5 star recruits to win a national title. I believe it's been true for every champion since recruiting rankings have existed.

Right now, even with Ole Miss hitting the transfer portal like crazy, they have 30 blue chips, less than the 42/43 you'd need to be at 50%.

Florida has 50 blue chips.

Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
18863 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 10:47 am to
quote:

Lane is .500 vs LSU at Ole Miss.

This includes two years where LSU went a combined 11-12, a year where Lane faced a lame duck coaching staff, and a coaching change.

During BK's tenure at LSU, BK is 22-8, Lane is 22-7, the difference being LSU's SECCG game loss. This is BK during his first two seasons vs Lane's year 3 and year 4.


Yeah, one coach took over a team that is the sole SEC school in their state and just won a Championship. The other took over a team that used to compete for recruits and just came off probation……please be more disingenuous, it suits you!
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
4653 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 11:34 am to
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Expect to be turned down.


This is jimmy sexton playing Florida to get his client a raise.
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
4653 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 11:35 am to
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Lane is .500 vs LSU at Ole Miss. This includes two years where LSU went a combined 11-12


It also includes a year LSU had a heisman winning QB who just couldn’t get it done on that final drive :,(
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
21379 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 11:45 am to
quote:

They feel entitled to be superior to Ole Miss.


OM had their first 11 win season in History last year. Y’all act like you won the fricking SB. We have more National Championships than you have 11 win seasons. You have never been to Atlanta. Never sniffed a BCS or CFP game. Are we superior to OM?



Posted by Quicksilver
Poker Room
Member since Jan 2013
11639 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 11:48 am to
Why are LSU fans so desperate to insert themselves into the Ole Miss - Florida convo?
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