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re: Here’s what the SEC’s 3 protected rivalry games should look like for every team (SDS)

Posted on 8/25/25 at 1:15 pm to
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
19489 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 1:15 pm to
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The issue with trying to create balanced schedules while also keeping traditional rivalries? Texas and Oklahoma don't have any rivalries with the Big Six SEC teams. They'll get the Arkansas, Missouri, and A&M's of the world while Florida gets three heavyweights.


At the end of the day, I understand your point, but it isn't as big of a difference as it might seem when playing 9 games..



Is there a difference? Yes, but it's only 1 game every 2 years. The other 17 are exactly the same.
This post was edited on 8/25/25 at 1:16 pm
Posted by GeauxPanthers2
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Dec 2024
881 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 1:17 pm to
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At the end of the day, I understand your point, but it isn't as big of a difference as it might seem when playing 9 games..

I don't disagree. Just simply stating that it will be hard to do both.
Posted by OleVaught14
Member since Jun 2019
9376 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 1:39 pm to
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Ole Miss
Mississippi State
Texas A&M
Auburn


By far the worst take I've seen
Posted by msu202020
Member since Feb 2011
4308 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 1:41 pm to
As good as it possibly could get for us...

Mississippi State
Vanderbilt
Ole Miss
Kentucky
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
19489 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 1:47 pm to
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As good as it possibly could get for us...

Mississippi State
Vanderbilt
Ole Miss
Kentucky

The bad news is the rest of your schedule.

Alabama or Georgia
Florida or Auburn
LSU or Tennessee
Texas or Oklahoma
Arkansas or A&M
So Carolina or Mizzou

No one can hide with a 9 game schedule. They are all hard as shite.
Posted by Monahans
Member since Sep 2019
2099 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 1:52 pm to
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I think what they are doing is trying not to give the new teams all former Big 12 permanents. Not sure it is avoidable.

So unnecessary, everything in cfb should be regional.
Posted by PawnShop
Deep Woods of the Nat'l Forest
Member since Oct 2022
396 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 2:08 pm to
Arkansas: Texas, Mizzou, Ole Miss.

Alabama: Auburn, Tennessee, State

Auburn : Alabama, Georgia, USCe

Florida: Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky

Georgia: Florida, Auburn, USCe

Kentucky: Florida, Tennessee, Vandy

LSU: A&M, Ole Miss, Texas

Mizzou: Arkansas, USCe, Okie

MSU: Ole Miss, Bama, Vandy

Ole Miss: State, Arkansas, LSU

Oklahoma: Texas, A&M, Mizzou

USCe: Georgia, Mizzou, Aubie

Tenn: Alabama, Florida, UK

Texas: Arkansas, Oklahoma, LSU

Texas A&M: Arkansas, Texas, Oklahoma

Vanderbilt: Tenn, UK, State






Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2700 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 2:15 pm to
I'm going to ignore the linked article because his pairings are not very good, in my opinion. But, I did want to go back and look at the pairings that were leaked out two years ago, which were based upon taking the 10 year conference records of all teams, splitting the league into a top 8 and bottom 8, then assigning each top 8 team 2 other top 8 rivals and one bottom 8, and vice versa for the bottom of the league.

It's possible my math could be off a digit here or there, but this is what the last 10 years looks like:

1. .878 72-10 Alabama
2. .827 67-14 Georgia
3. .750 66-22 Oklahoma
4. .659 54-28 LSU
5. .602 53-35 Texas
6. .573 47-25 Florida
7. .543 44-37 A&M
8. .476 39-43 Tennessee
9. .475 38-42 Ole Miss
10. .463 38-44 Auburn
11. .439 36-46 Missouri
12. .415 34-48 Kentucky
13. .402 33-49 S. Carolina
14. .369 30-52 Miss. State
15. .288 23-57 Arkansas
16. .185 15-66 Vandy

I then looked at the leaked pairings (according to a Dellenger tweet from 2 years ago) from 2023. When you add up the winning percentages of each team's permanent opponents, this is what you come up with:

Florida: Georgia; South Carolina; Oklahoma = .661
LSU: Ole Miss; Texas A&M; Alabama = .634
Auburn: Alabama; Georgia; Vanderbilt = .631
Texas A&M: LSU; Texas; Mississippi State = .544
Oklahoma: Texas; Missouri; Florida = .540
Texas: Oklahoma; Texas A&M; Arkansas = .534
Alabama: Auburn; Tennessee; LSU = .533
Kentucky: Mississippi State; South Carolina; Georgia = .531
Arkansas: Missouri; Texas; Ole Miss = .492
Tennessee: Vanderbilt; Alabama; South Carolina = .490
South Carolina: Florida; Tennessee; Kentucky = .488
Georgia: Auburn; Florida; Kentucky = .484
Mississippi State: Ole Miss; Kentucky; Texas A&M = .477
Vanderbilt: Tennessee; Auburn; Missouri = .459
Ole Miss: Mississippi State; LSU; Arkansas = .439
Missouri: Oklahoma; Arkansas; Vanderiblt = .418

One of the funny things about updating the numbers is that if they used the same formula as last time, Bama could still end up with Auburn, UT, and LSU, because although UT has now moved into the top 8, Auburn has dropped into the bottom 8. But, I hope that they do not stick with that formula.

If you want to balance out the opponents (which I think is a fools errand, given the minimal statistical difference in swiching out of your your annual opponents and making them a biennial opponent), then you would have to look at winning percentages, rather than this top 8, bottom 8 stuff.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
64754 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 2:25 pm to
I dont see why not. Thr 4 from the big 12 have played each other for a long time. Why stop now? It all feels forced. We can absorb those 4 teams and not ruin the games that have been played for 100 years.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Member since Jan 2014
30935 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 2:29 pm to
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LSU and Ole Miss will always be preserved, no matter what.


I hope. It’s always been a great rivalry.
This post was edited on 8/25/25 at 2:30 pm
Posted by BPTiger
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2011
6007 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 2:45 pm to
Yeah Oklahoma LSU is bullshite.

I don’t want MS St but we’ve played them the most. 1. Ole Miss 2. Arky
Posted by GulfSouthTiger
Member since Jun 2025
279 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 2:47 pm to
No way LSU should have Oklahoma and A&M gets Ole Miss. Switch those and I'm good.
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2700 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 2:49 pm to
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I dont see why not. Thr 4 from the big 12 have played each other for a long time. Why stop now? It all feels forced. We can absorb those 4 teams and not ruin the games that have been played for 100 years.
That's simply not true. A&M and Missouri have only played 17 times, and five of those have been since joining the SEC.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
64754 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 2:55 pm to
Well lsu has played oklahoma 4 times. 4 is less than 1 quarter of 17

I understand Aggies ran away from big brother and oklahoma. We all remember 77-0
This post was edited on 8/25/25 at 3:00 pm
Posted by Landmass
Premium Member
Member since Jun 2013
23497 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 3:06 pm to
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Your HC sure chats a lot about Auburn.


Our HC chats a lot about everyone. You just haven't noticed because you are too busy watching your own program burn down.
Posted by bearhc
Member since Sep 2009
5581 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 3:12 pm to
For me, LSU must -play Ole Miss.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
17069 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 3:16 pm to
Arkansas is going to have Texas and Texas A & M. The debate is if their 3rd team is LSU or Missouri. It should be LSU, but who really knows?
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
8961 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 3:18 pm to
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Ole Miss has played Auburn only 47 times in the entire existence of the SEC. A&M and Ole Miss have only played 13 times.


People don’t realize that Auburn rarely played teams from the west (other than Bama). It was only a year or two ago when Auburn actually passed the amount of times LSU played Kentucky - and that’s even with being in the same division.
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2700 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 3:24 pm to
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ell lsu has played oklahoma 4 times. 4 is less than 1 quarter of 17

So, your erroneous claim is negated by a totally irrelevant statistic? That's cajun logic, I suppose.

I'm not too worried about who we play every year, because, in the end, we will play every team in alternating years. That's the main concern. Fix that, and the rest is just icing on the cake.
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
6161 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 3:26 pm to
The most realistic option I want for UF is UGA, LSU, and SCar.
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