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re: Here’s what the SEC’s 3 protected rivalry games should look like for every team (SDS)
Posted on 8/25/25 at 1:15 pm to GeauxPanthers2
Posted on 8/25/25 at 1:15 pm to GeauxPanthers2
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The issue with trying to create balanced schedules while also keeping traditional rivalries? Texas and Oklahoma don't have any rivalries with the Big Six SEC teams. They'll get the Arkansas, Missouri, and A&M's of the world while Florida gets three heavyweights.
At the end of the day, I understand your point, but it isn't as big of a difference as it might seem when playing 9 games..
Is there a difference? Yes, but it's only 1 game every 2 years. The other 17 are exactly the same.
This post was edited on 8/25/25 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 8/25/25 at 1:17 pm to BigBro
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At the end of the day, I understand your point, but it isn't as big of a difference as it might seem when playing 9 games..
I don't disagree. Just simply stating that it will be hard to do both.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 1:39 pm to bigDgator
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Ole Miss
Mississippi State
Texas A&M
Auburn
By far the worst take I've seen
Posted on 8/25/25 at 1:41 pm to bigDgator
As good as it possibly could get for us...
Mississippi State
Vanderbilt
Ole Miss
Kentucky
Mississippi State
Vanderbilt
Ole Miss
Kentucky
Posted on 8/25/25 at 1:47 pm to msu202020
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As good as it possibly could get for us...
Mississippi State
Vanderbilt
Ole Miss
Kentucky
The bad news is the rest of your schedule.
Alabama or Georgia
Florida or Auburn
LSU or Tennessee
Texas or Oklahoma
Arkansas or A&M
So Carolina or Mizzou
No one can hide with a 9 game schedule. They are all hard as shite.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 1:52 pm to bigDgator
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I think what they are doing is trying not to give the new teams all former Big 12 permanents. Not sure it is avoidable.
So unnecessary, everything in cfb should be regional.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 2:08 pm to bigDgator
Arkansas: Texas, Mizzou, Ole Miss.
Alabama: Auburn, Tennessee, State
Auburn : Alabama, Georgia, USCe
Florida: Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky
Georgia: Florida, Auburn, USCe
Kentucky: Florida, Tennessee, Vandy
LSU: A&M, Ole Miss, Texas
Mizzou: Arkansas, USCe, Okie
MSU: Ole Miss, Bama, Vandy
Ole Miss: State, Arkansas, LSU
Oklahoma: Texas, A&M, Mizzou
USCe: Georgia, Mizzou, Aubie
Tenn: Alabama, Florida, UK
Texas: Arkansas, Oklahoma, LSU
Texas A&M: Arkansas, Texas, Oklahoma
Vanderbilt: Tenn, UK, State
Alabama: Auburn, Tennessee, State
Auburn : Alabama, Georgia, USCe
Florida: Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky
Georgia: Florida, Auburn, USCe
Kentucky: Florida, Tennessee, Vandy
LSU: A&M, Ole Miss, Texas
Mizzou: Arkansas, USCe, Okie
MSU: Ole Miss, Bama, Vandy
Ole Miss: State, Arkansas, LSU
Oklahoma: Texas, A&M, Mizzou
USCe: Georgia, Mizzou, Aubie
Tenn: Alabama, Florida, UK
Texas: Arkansas, Oklahoma, LSU
Texas A&M: Arkansas, Texas, Oklahoma
Vanderbilt: Tenn, UK, State
Posted on 8/25/25 at 2:15 pm to bigDgator
I'm going to ignore the linked article because his pairings are not very good, in my opinion. But, I did want to go back and look at the pairings that were leaked out two years ago, which were based upon taking the 10 year conference records of all teams, splitting the league into a top 8 and bottom 8, then assigning each top 8 team 2 other top 8 rivals and one bottom 8, and vice versa for the bottom of the league.
It's possible my math could be off a digit here or there, but this is what the last 10 years looks like:
1. .878 72-10 Alabama
2. .827 67-14 Georgia
3. .750 66-22 Oklahoma
4. .659 54-28 LSU
5. .602 53-35 Texas
6. .573 47-25 Florida
7. .543 44-37 A&M
8. .476 39-43 Tennessee
9. .475 38-42 Ole Miss
10. .463 38-44 Auburn
11. .439 36-46 Missouri
12. .415 34-48 Kentucky
13. .402 33-49 S. Carolina
14. .369 30-52 Miss. State
15. .288 23-57 Arkansas
16. .185 15-66 Vandy
I then looked at the leaked pairings (according to a Dellenger tweet from 2 years ago) from 2023. When you add up the winning percentages of each team's permanent opponents, this is what you come up with:
Florida: Georgia; South Carolina; Oklahoma = .661
LSU: Ole Miss; Texas A&M; Alabama = .634
Auburn: Alabama; Georgia; Vanderbilt = .631
Texas A&M: LSU; Texas; Mississippi State = .544
Oklahoma: Texas; Missouri; Florida = .540
Texas: Oklahoma; Texas A&M; Arkansas = .534
Alabama: Auburn; Tennessee; LSU = .533
Kentucky: Mississippi State; South Carolina; Georgia = .531
Arkansas: Missouri; Texas; Ole Miss = .492
Tennessee: Vanderbilt; Alabama; South Carolina = .490
South Carolina: Florida; Tennessee; Kentucky = .488
Georgia: Auburn; Florida; Kentucky = .484
Mississippi State: Ole Miss; Kentucky; Texas A&M = .477
Vanderbilt: Tennessee; Auburn; Missouri = .459
Ole Miss: Mississippi State; LSU; Arkansas = .439
Missouri: Oklahoma; Arkansas; Vanderiblt = .418
One of the funny things about updating the numbers is that if they used the same formula as last time, Bama could still end up with Auburn, UT, and LSU, because although UT has now moved into the top 8, Auburn has dropped into the bottom 8. But, I hope that they do not stick with that formula.
If you want to balance out the opponents (which I think is a fools errand, given the minimal statistical difference in swiching out of your your annual opponents and making them a biennial opponent), then you would have to look at winning percentages, rather than this top 8, bottom 8 stuff.
It's possible my math could be off a digit here or there, but this is what the last 10 years looks like:
1. .878 72-10 Alabama
2. .827 67-14 Georgia
3. .750 66-22 Oklahoma
4. .659 54-28 LSU
5. .602 53-35 Texas
6. .573 47-25 Florida
7. .543 44-37 A&M
8. .476 39-43 Tennessee
9. .475 38-42 Ole Miss
10. .463 38-44 Auburn
11. .439 36-46 Missouri
12. .415 34-48 Kentucky
13. .402 33-49 S. Carolina
14. .369 30-52 Miss. State
15. .288 23-57 Arkansas
16. .185 15-66 Vandy
I then looked at the leaked pairings (according to a Dellenger tweet from 2 years ago) from 2023. When you add up the winning percentages of each team's permanent opponents, this is what you come up with:
Florida: Georgia; South Carolina; Oklahoma = .661
LSU: Ole Miss; Texas A&M; Alabama = .634
Auburn: Alabama; Georgia; Vanderbilt = .631
Texas A&M: LSU; Texas; Mississippi State = .544
Oklahoma: Texas; Missouri; Florida = .540
Texas: Oklahoma; Texas A&M; Arkansas = .534
Alabama: Auburn; Tennessee; LSU = .533
Kentucky: Mississippi State; South Carolina; Georgia = .531
Arkansas: Missouri; Texas; Ole Miss = .492
Tennessee: Vanderbilt; Alabama; South Carolina = .490
South Carolina: Florida; Tennessee; Kentucky = .488
Georgia: Auburn; Florida; Kentucky = .484
Mississippi State: Ole Miss; Kentucky; Texas A&M = .477
Vanderbilt: Tennessee; Auburn; Missouri = .459
Ole Miss: Mississippi State; LSU; Arkansas = .439
Missouri: Oklahoma; Arkansas; Vanderiblt = .418
One of the funny things about updating the numbers is that if they used the same formula as last time, Bama could still end up with Auburn, UT, and LSU, because although UT has now moved into the top 8, Auburn has dropped into the bottom 8. But, I hope that they do not stick with that formula.
If you want to balance out the opponents (which I think is a fools errand, given the minimal statistical difference in swiching out of your your annual opponents and making them a biennial opponent), then you would have to look at winning percentages, rather than this top 8, bottom 8 stuff.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 2:25 pm to bigDgator
I dont see why not. Thr 4 from the big 12 have played each other for a long time. Why stop now? It all feels forced. We can absorb those 4 teams and not ruin the games that have been played for 100 years.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 2:29 pm to CBandits82
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LSU and Ole Miss will always be preserved, no matter what.
I hope. It’s always been a great rivalry.
This post was edited on 8/25/25 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 8/25/25 at 2:45 pm to BeatBamaBad
Yeah Oklahoma LSU is bullshite.
I don’t want MS St but we’ve played them the most. 1. Ole Miss 2. Arky
I don’t want MS St but we’ve played them the most. 1. Ole Miss 2. Arky
Posted on 8/25/25 at 2:47 pm to bigDgator
No way LSU should have Oklahoma and A&M gets Ole Miss. Switch those and I'm good.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 2:49 pm to Nado Jenkins83
quote:That's simply not true. A&M and Missouri have only played 17 times, and five of those have been since joining the SEC.
I dont see why not. Thr 4 from the big 12 have played each other for a long time. Why stop now? It all feels forced. We can absorb those 4 teams and not ruin the games that have been played for 100 years.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 2:55 pm to twk
Well lsu has played oklahoma 4 times. 4 is less than 1 quarter of 17
I understand Aggies ran away from big brother and oklahoma. We all remember 77-0
I understand Aggies ran away from big brother and oklahoma. We all remember 77-0
This post was edited on 8/25/25 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 8/25/25 at 3:06 pm to jangalang
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Your HC sure chats a lot about Auburn.
Our HC chats a lot about everyone. You just haven't noticed because you are too busy watching your own program burn down.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 3:12 pm to bigDgator
For me, LSU must -play Ole Miss.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 3:16 pm to BreakawayZou83
Arkansas is going to have Texas and Texas A & M. The debate is if their 3rd team is LSU or Missouri. It should be LSU, but who really knows?
Posted on 8/25/25 at 3:18 pm to Landmass
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Ole Miss has played Auburn only 47 times in the entire existence of the SEC. A&M and Ole Miss have only played 13 times.
People don’t realize that Auburn rarely played teams from the west (other than Bama). It was only a year or two ago when Auburn actually passed the amount of times LSU played Kentucky - and that’s even with being in the same division.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 3:24 pm to Nado Jenkins83
quote:So, your erroneous claim is negated by a totally irrelevant statistic? That's cajun logic, I suppose.
ell lsu has played oklahoma 4 times. 4 is less than 1 quarter of 17
I'm not too worried about who we play every year, because, in the end, we will play every team in alternating years. That's the main concern. Fix that, and the rest is just icing on the cake.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 3:26 pm to twk
The most realistic option I want for UF is UGA, LSU, and SCar.
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