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re: Herbstreit's comments were spot on about winning national championships
Posted on 1/20/26 at 10:23 pm to 4EsandATutti
Posted on 1/20/26 at 10:23 pm to 4EsandATutti
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The thing is if you got the right 4 and 5 star players and good leaders and coaching staff that got them playing together you can be even better. So no, just going for the 3 stars thinking they will all work hard is idiotic. Find the players that have the mentality you need for your team and system and try to get the most talented of that subset if you can.
The thing is… there has to be the correct mix.
Because the elite dudes have been told they’re elite their whole life. They don’t all work as hard as the hungrier 3 stars work. Thats just human nature.
But Cignetti’s coaching was also elite. They executed to their abilities pretty much every single play.
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 10:46 pm to homemadeshine
It takes talent, coaching, and culture. Mark Cuban bought talent for IU. They also had an average age of 23.5 which was pretty crafty.
But heart will beat talent every time. Or at least most times
But heart will beat talent every time. Or at least most times
Posted on 1/20/26 at 10:59 pm to homemadeshine
lol they were a solid team. One of the elite ones from the past??? Not even close. Will they get there again? Maybe but I doubt it
Posted on 1/20/26 at 11:18 pm to homemadeshine
Worst part about NIL and Transfer are entitled shitheads who give up. Cignetti doesn’t mess around and found players who buy into his system.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 5:08 am to TexasTiger08
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If Beck leads his receiver to the end zone, Miami wins.
…but he didn’t.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 5:46 am to homemadeshine
I'll be interested to see if this system has any staying power as we advance into the future. What happened to Indiana was the perfect storm of coaching, roster management, and experience. Indiana had by far the oldest roster in all of college football this year, with many starters on their fifth or sixth year of eligibility. Miami, incidentally, was closer in average age and played them the toughest in the CFP.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 6:14 am to HTX Horn
I recall the great Nebraska teams of the 60's and early 70's were known for their older teams with lots of key redshirt seniors. Those are days of a bygone era now with NIL promoting a highest bidder mentality and early departure for the NFL.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 7:08 am to JayAg
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They had a Heisman QB. You new to football?
Not only had a Heisman QB but had a Heisman Winner who played like a Heisman Winner in the post season....many times that does not happen.
If you gave me the cream of the crop CFB players next season and allowed me to assemble a coaching staff and work with the team from now until September we would not win a national title because I would be the lousiest head coach in the history of CFB LOL. Give Nick Saban and a clone of Nick Saban - not Kirby Smart but an exact duplicate - both of them with exactly the same roster they'd probably go 5-5 against one another over 10 games. Give Kirby Smart, good as he is, and Nick Saban the same roster and they'd be what, 1-9 or something, over 10 games. It takes both...a roster and an organization headed by someone who knows what to do with that roster. It also takes a little luck.
CFB is not unlike professional poker. If you put me in the world series of poker I lose 100% of the time...they like to claim they have eliminated luck from poker....but if you put the 5 best poker players together and they play perfectly, never making a mistake, they will still eventually have to get cards...luck....and luck makes a difference in CFB.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 7:22 am to Gifman
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They just spent their money on guys who wanted to win.
Mind. Blown.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 7:58 am to homemadeshine
It was refreshing to see a team that tackles so well. Why dont the 5 stars tackle this well?
Posted on 1/21/26 at 8:10 am to Gifman
They spent money on guys who didn't have four and five stars in front of their names but still have talent. These people who give these star ratings out, the majority of them aren't even coaches or haven't coached a down of football in their lives. It is why so many no star, two star and three star players turn into NFL players. The NFL is full of guys who didn't have a high star rating yet somehow made it.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 8:12 am to homemadeshine
Mark Cuban said it better when he said paying an exorbitant price for a couple players destroys team unity. You might counter he could pay everyone well... However he said they actually considered it better to get who you wanted without letting it create disunity.
That it was something he and the staff had openly talked about.
That it was something he and the staff had openly talked about.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 8:19 am to TygerLyfe
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Mind. Blown.
It’s probably not that hard to do.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 8:23 am to TexasTiger08
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If Beck leads his receiver to the end zone, Miami wins.
And if the refs weren’t blind as frick the Miami D would have given up several more TDs.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 9:06 am to homemadeshine
Cignetti did an absolutely amazing job coaching this season and last. No one can argue that. But the seemingly 87 famous talking heads I’ve seen call him the next Nick Saban need to pump the brakes.
Coaching is obviously important, but for anyone to shite on having a roster of 4 & 5 star players seem to have already forgotten Alabama’s run under Saban. Talent will win more frequently than how Indiana did it this year. Greatest team in history, 2019 LSU, had probably the worst champ winning coach ever but the most talent.
I’m just not sold on building a college team of 23 year olds every year, yet. I think this was a perfect year for IU. They will be good every year, but Oregon, Ohio State, Michigan and Penn St aren’t about to just give IU the Big Ten for the next decade.
Coaching is obviously important, but for anyone to shite on having a roster of 4 & 5 star players seem to have already forgotten Alabama’s run under Saban. Talent will win more frequently than how Indiana did it this year. Greatest team in history, 2019 LSU, had probably the worst champ winning coach ever but the most talent.
I’m just not sold on building a college team of 23 year olds every year, yet. I think this was a perfect year for IU. They will be good every year, but Oregon, Ohio State, Michigan and Penn St aren’t about to just give IU the Big Ten for the next decade.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 10:04 pm to homemadeshine
If you look at the 4 and 5 star rate of the last 20 national champions guarantee it is above 50. Tell Nick Saban, Kirby Smart, Urban Meyer, Pete Caroll, Dabo Sweeney, Jim Har, etc stars do not matter. They recruited 5 and 4 stars in mass. While coaching and development def matter, so does skill.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 10:06 pm to homemadeshine
Having a team full of 24 year olds doesn't hurt.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:29 pm to homemadeshine
Go back the last 25 NC games and tell us where the winning teams recruiting rankings were. You'll find the high majority recruiting rank was top 5.
Posted on 1/22/26 at 5:46 am to homemadeshine
What Herbie didn't say is that the overall field is weaker. That is was parity gives you. Talent is spread out and not concentrated in 10 or 12 teams.
Kiffin said it a couple of years ago. There will be no more dynasties. Dynasties are built when you horde talent and kids wait their turns. That's gone. There weren't many back to back national champions before and it will be more infrequent now.
2019 LSU had 5 1st round picks, 2 2nd round, and 3 in the 3rd
2019 Bama had 4 1st round picks, 3 in the 2nd round
2020 Bama had 6 1st round and 2 in 2nd round
2022 UGa had 5 1st round picks and 2 2nd round picks
Kiffin said it a couple of years ago. There will be no more dynasties. Dynasties are built when you horde talent and kids wait their turns. That's gone. There weren't many back to back national champions before and it will be more infrequent now.
2019 LSU had 5 1st round picks, 2 2nd round, and 3 in the 3rd
2019 Bama had 4 1st round picks, 3 in the 2nd round
2020 Bama had 6 1st round and 2 in 2nd round
2022 UGa had 5 1st round picks and 2 2nd round picks
This post was edited on 1/22/26 at 7:10 am
Posted on 1/22/26 at 6:23 am to Gifman
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He’s correct but let’s not act like Indiana didn’t buy a lot of talent. They just spent their money on guys who wanted to win.
…and wasn’t their lineup average age like 24? That’s an NFL age team
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