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re: Herbstreit on HUNH: "Look for more fake injuries"
Posted on 8/27/13 at 11:42 am to Nado Jenkins83
Posted on 8/27/13 at 11:42 am to Nado Jenkins83
quote:Quick fact and tidbit for you: In Gus Malzahn's 3 years at Auburn (2009, 2010, and 2011), Auburn outrushed LSU in 2 of those seasons. And the only time LSU out rushed Auburn during that time period was when Auburn lost 31 contributors from the 2010 National Championship Game. And they barely out rushed them then.
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 11:43 am to TTsTowel
What was the score in 2011 again. We didn't need to run when our terrible qbs were tossing bombs
Posted on 8/27/13 at 11:43 am to RollTide1987
Of course. It's the defense for the cheap HUNH. If the NCAA allowed defenses to sub with the offenses, this would be fine. If the offense subs players, the defense should be allowed to sub a package just as the offense is and get to set up. If the offense keeps the same guys on the field, no interference.
HUNH is for teams who can't outsmart teams or have lesser talent so they force the defense into unfair packages. Oregon is the worst at this. They purposely keep the ball near their sideline even to help quicken how fast their subs get in so the defense has no chance to change packages. That's all I care about.
if the offense can sub, the defense should be able too as well.
HUNH is for teams who can't outsmart teams or have lesser talent so they force the defense into unfair packages. Oregon is the worst at this. They purposely keep the ball near their sideline even to help quicken how fast their subs get in so the defense has no chance to change packages. That's all I care about.
if the offense can sub, the defense should be able too as well.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 11:43 am to Nado Jenkins83
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We slow it down.
Guess you disagree with your new coordinator
Posted on 8/27/13 at 11:43 am to Nado Jenkins83
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Two different things.
Only because one fits your agenda and the other doesn't.
The reality is that you are just arbitrarily assigning meaning to the phrase "good old football" to make it fit your narrow view of what football should be.
There was a time when "good old football" didn't include extra points or the forward pass.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 11:44 am to Nado Jenkins83
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I don't like the HUNH. I think it's cheap.
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I encourage the faking of injuries.
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Why can't they just play regular old ball
Posted on 8/27/13 at 11:44 am to 08Gatorbait
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Of course. It's the defense for the cheap HUNH. If the NCAA allowed defenses to sub with the offenses, this would be fine. If the offense subs players, the defense should be allowed to sub a package just as the offense is and get to set up. If the offense keeps the same guys on the field, no interference.
HUNH is for teams who can't outsmart teams or have lesser talent so they force the defense into unfair packages. Oregon is the worst at this. They purposely keep the ball near their sideline even to help quicken how fast their subs get in so the defense has no chance to change packages. That's all I care about.
if the offense can sub, the defense should be able too as well.
They can.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 11:44 am to 08Gatorbait
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If the offense subs players, the defense should be allowed to sub a package just as the offense is and get to set up. If the offense keeps the same guys on the field, no interference.
quote:You know those are the current rules, right?
if the offense can sub, the defense should be able too as well.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 11:44 am to RollTide1987
Saban was setting this whole plan up when he talked about more injuries. They'll just have a player they won't be using the next few plays to fake the injury. Smart move. Use the rules to your advantage, like the HUNH is doing. 
Posted on 8/27/13 at 11:44 am to Nado Jenkins83
Yeah but that tempo is just another way to control the defense like those plays. Also, malzhans offenses are heavily geared toward power running. I understand you don't like it, everyone has their right to dislike what they want to but to encourage faking injuries is kinda whiny.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 11:45 am to 08Gatorbait
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. If the NCAA allowed defenses to sub with the offenses, this would be fine. If the offense subs players, the defense should be allowed to sub a package just as the offense is and get to set up. If the offense keeps the same guys on the field, no interference.
this is what already happens
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UNH is for teams who can't outsmart teams or have lesser talent so they force the defense into unfair packages.
you dont have a clue
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if the offense can sub, the defense should be able too as well.
see the two comments above
Posted on 8/27/13 at 11:45 am to TTsTowel
Hasn't LSU added HUNH to their offensive repertoire? Regardless, what about when a team is down with < 2:00 to go in the game? Still time for "real football"?
Posted on 8/27/13 at 11:46 am to LA kid but AU fan
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Power running game and HUNH are not mutually exclusive.
Yeah A&M lead the SEC in rushing yards/game.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 11:46 am to AA7
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Regardless, what about when a team is down with < 2:00 to go in the game? Still time for "real football"?
Apples and Oranges
Posted on 8/27/13 at 11:46 am to WDE24
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You know those are the current rules, right?
No. The current rules say as soon as the official leaves the ball the play starts. But there is zero chance for the defense to sub and set up. Oregon has the players ready, soon as play is over they run out, subs run off, and play starts within 10 seconds giving the defense zero chance to sub an adequate package into the game. So basically you end up with linebackers on slot receivers constantly or nickel and dime packages vs run formations because you can't sub in time.
If you sub on offense. The official should stand over the ball and allot the defense an additional 3-5 seconds to respond to the offensive changes.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 11:47 am to 08Gatorbait
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if the offense can sub, the defense should be able too as well.
They can
Posted on 8/27/13 at 11:47 am to Nado Jenkins83
quote:Whoa, I didn't know LSU only played 1 game that season...
What was the score in 2011 again.
We're talking about the whole season, Rantard.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 11:47 am to AA7
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Hasn't LSU added HUNH to their offensive repertoire?
Uptempo with a little HUNH mixed in I believe
Posted on 8/27/13 at 11:47 am to RollTide1987
Holy frick this thread
Posted on 8/27/13 at 11:47 am to 08Gatorbait
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08Gatorbait
Wanna know how I know you are football ignorant?
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