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re: Has an African American head football coach ever won a national championship?
Posted on 10/20/21 at 7:53 am to geauxnavybeatbama
Posted on 10/20/21 at 7:53 am to geauxnavybeatbama
Y'all should go after Prime-Time. He wants Saban's jacket 
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 7:57 am to geauxbrown
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no one else in the world plays professional football, it is.
CFL went under?
Posted on 10/20/21 at 7:58 am to Pledge
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This is probably the stupidest thread I’ve ever seen
Posted on 10/20/21 at 8:06 am to geauxnavybeatbama
Nothing to do with race but there's just not enough data on Mel Tucker at this point. Would be an incredibly risky hire.
Posted on 10/20/21 at 8:08 am to Pledge
You must be new to The Rant...very new
Posted on 10/20/21 at 8:30 am to geauxnavybeatbama
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I think Mel Tucker will be the one hired at LSU
No he won't
Posted on 10/20/21 at 8:33 am to geauxnavybeatbama
It will be either Tucker or James Franklin. You can bet on that.
Posted on 10/20/21 at 8:42 am to geauxnavybeatbama
[quote]I don’t want race to be a factor either. I’m looking at Tucker maybe not being a home run hire but a cheaper hire with potential. Some of the ones on the list have a lot of stink like freeze, kiffin, Franklin. Honestly I would like Aranda.[/quote
I think Aranda would be a better choice than Tucker
I think Aranda would be a better choice than Tucker
Posted on 10/20/21 at 8:44 am to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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You must be new to The Rant...very new
What tipped you off. My 14 posts. You're bright
Posted on 10/20/21 at 9:05 am to geauxnavybeatbama
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Has an African American head football coach ever won a national championship?
How many African American FBS head coaches have there been?
The % of head coaches that win national championships is pretty tiny to begin with; toss in how few African American head coaches there are and statistically the odds of there being one to win a national title is absurdly low.
I mean, Dennis Green was the first African American head coach for an FBS program (Northwestern, 1981). So we've only had coaches that fit part of that criteria for 39 years (2021's season has yet to be decided).
There have been a total of 86 both recognized and unrecognized national champions in those 39 years; of those 89, 45 were won by different coaches:
Barry Switzer (White)
Bill McCartney (White)
Bo Schembechler (White)
Bob Stoops (White)
Bobby Bowden (White)
Bobby Collins (White)
Bobby Ross (White)
Brian Kelly (White)
Butch Davis (White)
Dabo Swinney (White)
Danny Ford (White)
Dennis Erickson (White)
Don James (White)
Ed Orgeron (Neanderthal)
Fred Akers (White)
Galen Hall (White)
Gary Patterson (White)
Gary Pinkel (White)
Gene Chizik (White)
Gene Stallings (White)
Howard Schnellenberger (White)
Jackie Sherrill (White)
Jim Tressel (White)
Jimbo Fisher (White)
Jimmy Johnson (White)
Joe Paterno (White)
John Cooper (White)
Kyle Whittingham (White)
Larry Coker (White)
LaVell Edwards (White)
Les Miles (White)
Lloyd Carr (White)
Lou Holtz (White)
Mack Brown (White)
Mike Gundy (White)
Nick Saban (White)
Pat Dye (White)
Pete Carroll (White)
Phillip Fulmer (White)
Ron Meyer (White)
Scott Frost (White)
Steve Spurrier (White)
Terry Bowden (White)
Tom Osborne (White)
Urban Meyer (White)
At present, there are only 8 African American head coaches at P5 programs:
Dina Babers - Syracuse
James Franklin - Penn State
David Shaw - Stanford
Herm Edwards - Arizona State
Mel Tucker - Michigan State
Mike Locksley - Maryland
Jimmy Lake - Washington
Karl Dorrell - Colorado
Of these 8, Penn State (7th, 5-1) and Michigan State (9th, 7-0) are still within arms reach of the playoffs. Arizona State is the only other P5 team receiving votes with an African American head coach.
Interestingly enough, 25% of P5 teams with African American head coaches are ranked in the top 10, but half of African American head coaches are in the Pac12 (which has only one ranked team).
If you are an African American head coach not in the Pac12, you have a 50/50 shot of being in the top 10.
Posted on 10/20/21 at 9:10 am to geauxnavybeatbama
Admittedly I haven't kept up with the LSU coaching search.
But where the hell is all this African American talk coming from? Did someone in the LSU Admin state they intended to hire an AA to replace Ed O?
But where the hell is all this African American talk coming from? Did someone in the LSU Admin state they intended to hire an AA to replace Ed O?
Posted on 10/20/21 at 9:22 am to RT1941
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Admittedly I haven't kept up with the LSU coaching search.
But where the hell is all this African American talk coming from? Did someone in the LSU Admin state they intended to hire an AA to replace Ed O?
I think the OP was just looking at Mel Tucker, who is having a really good season at Michigan State, as an option, which made them wonder about an AA coach winning a national title (coupled with the fact that the last 3 LSU head coaches have won one).
Posted on 10/20/21 at 9:38 am to Bham4Tide
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It will be either Tucker or James Franklin. You can bet on that.
I think Franklin would prefer USC and he would probably kill it out there.
Going to LSU is similar and the SEC west is similar in several ways to the BIG 10 division with PSU. There is always at least one school that will out-recruit you and it is a much tougher division than the other side.
Who in the PAC12 could compete with a USC team loaded with talent and coached well?
Edit --- Is the title of this thread meant to imply black coaches cannot win championships? If so, wow.
This post was edited on 10/20/21 at 9:40 am
Posted on 10/20/21 at 9:43 am to Solo Cam
I think Lincoln Riley would fail at LSU
I’m not impressed with him. Decent coach with a world of talent at OU who wins in a crap conference and repeatedly gets blown out in the playoffs.
In the SEC he loses 2-4 games a year. Look how many close games OU squeaked by against crappy opponents
I’m not impressed with him. Decent coach with a world of talent at OU who wins in a crap conference and repeatedly gets blown out in the playoffs.
In the SEC he loses 2-4 games a year. Look how many close games OU squeaked by against crappy opponents
Posted on 10/20/21 at 9:46 am to geauxnavybeatbama
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I don’t want race to be a factor
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LSU
Posted on 10/20/21 at 9:52 am to geauxnavybeatbama
Don't we get enough of this bullshite every time we turn on a TV or open a newspaper?..........Man...PLEASE!!!
Posted on 10/20/21 at 9:53 am to panhandlebama
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What tipped you off. My 14 posts. You're bright
He wasn’t talking to you. Unless you forgot to sign out of your alter account.
Posted on 10/20/21 at 9:56 am to TigerLunatik
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How many other football championships are there?
Putting aside that the to most of the world the term "football" means soccer...
That is like arguing that Gaelic Football champions are world champions. Sure, you can call it that but it is kind of silly.
Posted on 10/20/21 at 9:56 am to Pledge
Shut up pledge!
Posted on 10/20/21 at 9:58 am to TigerLunatik
Grey Cup is older than the Lombardi Trophy
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