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Posted on 3/30/20 at 9:40 am to Lsupimp
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60-3 and three national championships in his last five seasons makes it highly plausible Osborne would have won more. Of course, people once thought Saban would keep winning championships too but since 2015 it's really just been one lucky hail mary pass that's kept Saban relevant. He had a nice run though and is certainly a top three coach.
He coached in the Big 12 (easy), and during that time (1990's) OU was WAY down. He was a good coach, but he also got at least one gift NC during that time as a lifetime achievement award (his last year, 1997) Michigan was better....
Posted on 3/30/20 at 9:43 am to WilliamTaylor21
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One was great at dressing like a neck beard - fedora wearing cuck. And the other was great at squandering talent.
Not sure if 4 NC and playing for two more since 2010 is squandering talent.....
Posted on 3/30/20 at 9:46 am to UKWildcats
quote:If we're going in that direction, then one could argue the case for Johnny Wooden.
Adolph Rupp is the correct answer OP. tGOAT
PS- I was once at a small get together for Coach Rupp in Tuscaloosa in his last season as he was making his "farewell tour" around the league. Coach Bryant was there, and after all the folks had spoken to Coach Rupp, he and Coach Bryant eased into a smaller side room (with ample refreshment!
), and spent most of the remaining time chatting. I remember thinking that this was really a special time to be a "fly on the wall".Posted on 3/30/20 at 9:48 am to BZ504
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Some of Bryant’s probably aren’t legit. MNCs.
Oh please, they were won the way NC were crowned during that time. If you want to say that some are MNC then any other school wining NC during that time are MNC.....
Posted on 3/30/20 at 9:50 am to Godawgs4
1966- Alabama was the only unbeaten and untied team at the end of the season
1977- Alabama destroyed Ohio State in the bowl game, ND leapfrogged from #5 over #3 Alabama (at the time)
That year, ND lost to Ole Miss, Alabama lost to Nebraska
1977- Alabama destroyed Ohio State in the bowl game, ND leapfrogged from #5 over #3 Alabama (at the time)
That year, ND lost to Ole Miss, Alabama lost to Nebraska
Posted on 3/30/20 at 10:00 am to Godawgs4
quote:Go back to the '66 season for the other "theft". Coach Bryant called that undefeated team probably the best team he ever coached...they finished third to ND and Mich. St. who tied each other, 10-10.
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“He was robbed of 2 titles by the bias for Notre Dame.”
Exactly what years are you talking about?
1973 Bama missed an extra point (very costly) in the Sugar Bowl and lost to ND 24-23. No bias there. Special teams cost Bama a NC.
1975 (1974 season) Orange Bowl. ND beat Bama 13-11. ND was the better team that night.
1977 I would say Bama had an argument there and I can agree that Bama caught a bad break. However ND destroyed (#1) Texas in the Cotton Bowl and so it was no surprise that they leapfrogged Bama to #1.
Also, Alabama was coming off of an undefeated Nat'l Championship season in '65!...they were the defending Nat'l Champs.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 10:23 am to coachcrisp
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Also, Alabama was coming off of an undefeated Nat'l Championship season in '65!
Not entirely accurate. We were AP national champions in '65 but we finished the year with a 9-1-1 record. Granted, our one loss would have been a win had instant replay/booth reviews existed in those days.
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 10:28 am to GoDeepCoach
Tom has been rumored to have cheated like crazy, steroids, absolute degenerate players not the normal public drunk or weed stuff and covered it up, had his separate lineman scholarships to create a massive online program.
A lot easier to do that kind of stuff in Lincoln, Nebraska.
A lot easier to do that kind of stuff in Lincoln, Nebraska.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 10:37 am to Dick Tracy
quote:You realize that means he had access to as many as 125 scholarshipped players every season - enough for a 6-deep. And that was with all Freshmen ineligible.
Coach Bryant did not have unlimited scholarships. Early on maybe but most of the time There was a limit of 80 over a 2 year period with no more than 45 in a single year
Since Bama was a football factory at the time, they were always granted virtually unlimited funds for schollies. Most schools with which they competed simply couldn’t keep up with those numbers.
The answer to the OP is clearly Saban.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 10:38 am to lewis and herschel
Not true. Nebraska was a student athlete citadel of virtue and citizenship.
*He says as he struggles to keep a straight face
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*He says as he struggles to keep a straight face
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 10:42 am to FearlessFreep
Yeah my vote would go to Saban. The Bear had way more schollies to offer compared to Saban. Different eras but I would give the nod to Saban
Posted on 3/30/20 at 11:09 am to FearlessFreep
I think comparing the two is just as hard as comparing two football teams for insanely different eras. You have to compare to what else is out there.
Bryant won titles during a time when it was pretty much a 100% popularity contest, while these days there's at least SOME visibility and analytics that goes into it. A better example might be Bryant's run in the 70s, in which from 71-79 he won the SEC 8 out of a possible 9 times. How good was the SEC in the 70s? That's the debate. I will say that the conference as a WHOLE is tougher now, but if you look at individual seasons there might be some specific years in the 70s where the SEC was really strong. I don't know.
Bryant won titles during a time when it was pretty much a 100% popularity contest, while these days there's at least SOME visibility and analytics that goes into it. A better example might be Bryant's run in the 70s, in which from 71-79 he won the SEC 8 out of a possible 9 times. How good was the SEC in the 70s? That's the debate. I will say that the conference as a WHOLE is tougher now, but if you look at individual seasons there might be some specific years in the 70s where the SEC was really strong. I don't know.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 12:20 pm to GoDeepCoach
Saban
Posted on 3/30/20 at 12:32 pm to FearlessFreep
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You realize that means he had access to as many as 125 scholarshipped players every season - enough for a 6-deep. And that was with all Freshmen ineligible.
So did every other team......
Posted on 3/30/20 at 1:14 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
It's an opinion question. Shove it up your arse if you dont like it.
But Bear Bryant? LOL. Due was a cheater in recruiting at the highest levels
But Bear Bryant? LOL. Due was a cheater in recruiting at the highest levels
Posted on 3/30/20 at 1:17 pm to the LSUSaint
quote:liar
Due was a cheater in recruiting at the highest levels
Posted on 3/30/20 at 1:35 pm to Ted2010
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He did have the greatest team in college football history
Yes he did, even though 2001 Miami has an argument.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 3:31 pm to Lsupimp
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Tom Osborne.
He had the GOAT team but he's not the GOAT coach.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 5:20 pm to RollTide1987
The whole state of Nebraska was behind NU program (running the same offense, etc.). Walk on program was legendary. He got players out of NJ.
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