re: Georgia fan at my job wants Kirby fired.

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Never said he was but you used the term "quarterback" development and that clearly wasn't an issue with Fromm.Why didn't you just say "Fields development?"

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You stated:
"I just don't get this narrative"... I'm letting you know I wasn't contributing to the narrative that you described.

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Not sure what type of "plan" anyone can have a QB from transferring.Heck,I'm pretty 3 outta the last 4 Heisman winners were QB transfers.

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I mentioned in the post on our board that I referenced, probably a good start would have been:
1) consider actually redshirting a kid that said he'd be ok with it and not blow a year of eligibility if you weren't giving him a legit shot at taking the job (mistake here was not figuring out a way to keep Stetson Bennett on the roster so that you could have used him as a backup once you knew you were losing Eason... "QB handling")
2) if you are going to play him, don't put handcuffs on him and then use that as an excuse as to why he isn't earning the job. I agree that he didn't look ready to play at times, but that's just as much on Kirby/Chaney for failure to manage his usage and development.

There is a difference between starting/not starting a kid and failing to manage/handle/develop the QB *position* adequately.

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I believe he did have 8 TD's as Freshmen...not sure how many were passes but sure,he coulda been used differently at times.

Now,I really hope talented QB's leaving don't start becoming a pattern.I still have trouble trying to figure out why Fromm left...there was a common denominator for Fields and Newman situation.

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He had 4 passing TDs and 4 rushing TDs. 2 of the passing TDs were against UMass, 1 against Austin Peay, and 1 against MTSU. When we brought him into games against legitimate teams, it was typically either as a weird one off running play in the middle of the game, or in mostly handoff duty at the end. See game by game stat list here.


Fromm leaving early was likely a bit of a knee jerk reaction to all the shite he caught in 2019 being blamed for the offensive performance, combined with the fact that there was going to be a new OC, turnover on the OL, and frankly he wasn't likely to improve the things that the NFL was dinging him for with regards to draft rating. He wasn't going to get significantly more athletic, he wasn't going to get taller, and his pre-snap reading wasn't likely to get better than it already was.

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You stated:
"I just don't get this narrative"... I'm letting you know I wasn't contributing to the narrative that you described

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I described the narrative that you described.You said QB's,not
Fields.

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consider actually redshirting a kid that said he'd be ok with it

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He wasn't gonna be OK with it no matter what he said...not with Avery chirping in his ear all year long.

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Stetson Bennett on the roster so that you could have used him as a backup once you knew you were losing Eason... "QB handling

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They weren't planning on em being the primary backup this year and you think having him as a primary backup in coming off a NC game is a good idea? So you'd have a walk-on as a primary backup but redshirt the #1 HS QB in the country? On what planet does this make sense? And you woulda KILLED Kirby for it on this message board along with everybody else... ridiculous.

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He's not wrong but Kirby's recruiting and roster management alone make him a better coach than Mark Richt who was probably our best coach up to that point in time.

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YOU RANG ?

Christ almightythis is what you said and quoting DIRECTLY

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between poor QB development/handling under Chaney's last year

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Which means 2018 and yes,the year was exclusively about Fromm and Fields.Its your own words.If you wanna change what you said or meant now.Thats your issue

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You can go around in circles if you want, but please avoid misattributing opinions and statements to me that simply don't apply.

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I'm not going round and round about anything.That statement was about 2018 period.

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Plenty of elite QBs ride the pine in year 1 and most don't transfer

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They might ride the bench but almost zero take redshirts these days and Fields wasn't gonna be one of em...no matter what he stated publically.He was a weapon that was perhaps,able to contribute or win a game for us down the road just like Tua as a freshman.

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Jake had gone down with some kind of season ending injury, sure... Fields likely should have owned the job. But for mop up duty against Austin Peay, MTSU, and other sisters of the poor?

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Tua had plenty of mop up duty as a freshman and much of any QB's development takes place in practice and film study over the course of the season.

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No one is asking you to accept my view of things. Not sure why this is the hill you're choosing to die on.

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What hill? You made a statement
about "QB development" in the 2018 season and I corrected it.
Now your staying it wasn't "exclusively" about the QB's who took 99.99% of the snaps that season...just own it.

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Not to toot my own horn but I saw this QB problem long before Fromm left,

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Unless you predicted Fromm to go pro early, his replacement to quit, and the guy we have started all year to get hurt on the play that burnt your dirty arse secondary, quiet down.

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Why have the most talent in the country if you're just going to bitch about injuries?

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Speaking of retarded questions.

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Christ almightythis is what you said and quoting DIRECTLY

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Amazing... directly. Excluding a portion of the sentence.

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These problems are still owned by Kirby, between poor QB development/handling under Chaney's last year and Coley's only year as OC, but he has at least committed to trying to fix it on the surface.

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They might ride the bench but almost zero take redshirts these days and Fields wasn't gonna be one of em...no matter what he stated publically.He was a weapon that was perhaps,able to contribute or win a game for us down the road just like Tua as a freshman.

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Redshirt QB recruits in 2019:
#1 PS Spencer Rattler
#3 PS Graham Mertz
#4 PS Dylan Morris
#7 PS Cade McNamara
#8 PS Jacob Zeno
#9 PS Joey Yellen * - transferred to Pitt this year
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#5 Taulia Tagovailoa * - would have likely redshirted if it weren't for his brother exploding his hip and forcing him to be available for a 5th game. Interestingly, he actually transferred.

You can argue that some on that list aren't elite, which is fair, I was just working my way down the list until I got to one who redshirted and transferred.

Almost zero though in your estimation.

2017 - #1 QB - Davis Mills
2015 - #2 QB - Blake Barnett * (waited to transfer at start of year 2 once it was obvious he wasn't winning job)

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Tua had plenty of mop up duty as a freshman and much of any QB's development takes place in practice and film study over the course of the season.

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So are you arguing that Fields' development, growth, and utilization at UGA in year one was equivalent to Tua's at Alabama? If not equivalent, would you say it was good? Just want to make sure we hone in your central thesis here.

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You made a statement
about "QB development" in the 2018 season and I corrected it.

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I see. You and the rest of the world must have different definitions of the word. Carry on.

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He said Bama is the closest talent wise in the country,

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Georgia has the nod in five stars. Alabama is actually slightly better overall. But much better in development.

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was probably our best coach up to that point in time.

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I’m almost positive Vince would disagree... Wally too.

Never expected this thread to trigger so many dawgs.