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re: Georgia fan at my job wants Kirby fired.

Posted on 11/12/20 at 1:35 pm to
Posted by gamecockman12
Columbia, SC
Member since Aug 2012
5911 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 1:35 pm to
Bring Will Muschamp home to Athens.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 1:38 pm to
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He's not wrong but Kirby's recruiting and roster management alone make him a better coach than Mark Richt who was probably our best coach up to that point in time.


Not to toot my own horn but I saw this QB problem long before Fromm left, and to some extent: Who cares if you can't ever get over the hump?

What's the point of having all of that talent and getting consistently blown out when you face a legitimate top ten team?

It's not that he doesn't have a Quarterback in general that's the problem: He doesn't even have a Quarterback that's serviceable. He's in his fifth year, and the only options he has at Quarterback look atrocious.

You cannot win a National Championship without a good Quarterback these days. Not elite, but good. Mathis and Bennett have been around Georgia for a while and haven't been developed even a little bit, thinking he's going to stumble into a QB Guru who will develop all of his QBs going forward is...let me just say, you guys aren't in a good position right now, even with all of that talent.
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
5690 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 1:38 pm to
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Bring Will Muschamp home to Athens

Why would USC want to get rid of Muschamp? He has the best H2H record against Smart of any coach in the east.
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
5690 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 1:40 pm to
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What's the point of having all of that talent and getting consistently blown out when you face a legitimate top ten team

lol Smart has a winning record against top 10 opponents.
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It's not that he doesn't have a Quarterback in general that's the problem: He doesn't even have a Quarterback that's serviceable

I doubt any team’s third string option is good enough to carry teams to multiple top 10 wins. Especially so in a year with a shortened camp. I’d argue Stetson is serviceable, which is why UGA didn’t lose to auburn or Tennessee. Not sure why you’re acting surprised UGA wasn’t able to beat UF with a walk on QB and second string defense. If Stetson was good enough to carry teams to multiple top 10 wins he wouldn’t have been a walk on or third string in the first place.
This post was edited on 11/12/20 at 1:45 pm
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 1:47 pm to
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lol Smart has a winning record against top 10 opponents


He does not.

You have to take teams that finished in the top 10, not when they played.

That's what I mean by a legitimate top ten.

2016: 0 - 0
2017: 2 - 2 (Auburn x2, Alabama, Oklahoma)
2018: 1 - 3 (Florida, Alabama, LSU, Texas)
2019: 1 - 1 (Florida, LSU)
2020: 0 - 2 (Florida and Alabama)

That's 4 - 8.

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I doubt any team’s third string option is serviceable. Especially so in a year with a shortened camp.


Especially when you have several guys with multiple years in the system and tap the transfer portal twice to try and do anything not to start them.

That is mismanagement. It's not a freaky coincidence that people don't want to play QB at Georgia. It's not strange that Fromm left earlier than he should have, that Newman opted out, that Justin Fields transferred out.

You guys need to start being honest with yourselves.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
40002 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 1:49 pm to
Consistently getting blow out by top ten teams? He’s got a winning record against them. The losses aren’t pretty but let’s not pretend like he’s Ofer against them.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 1:54 pm to

He does not.

You have to take teams that finished in the top 10, not when they played.

That's what I mean by a legitimate top ten.

2016: 0 - 0
2017: 2 - 2 (Auburn x2, Alabama, Oklahoma)
2018: 1 - 3 (Florida, Alabama, LSU, Texas)
2019: 1 - 1 (Florida, LSU)
2020: 0 - 2 (Florida and Alabama)

That's 4 - 8.
Posted by Hogfan13
Member since Jul 2019
2950 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 1:54 pm to
Mississippi State Fan at my work wants to be a Georgia fan! Says no reason to not have any championships in anything in over 100 years of trying!



Just kidding - No State fans are smart enough to work where I work.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52561 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 1:55 pm to
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That is mismanagement. It's not a freaky coincidence that people don't want to play QB at Georgia. It's not strange that Fromm left earlier than he should have, that Newman opted out, that Justin Fields transferred out.



This would scare the shite out of me if I'm a Dawg.

At least Saban's mismanagement issues have always just been at kicker.
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
5690 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 1:57 pm to
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You have to take teams that finished in the top 10, not when they played.

Depends. The only reason ND wasn’t top 10 at the end of the year was because UGA beat them. They finished 11 in 2017 and 14 in 2019. Same goes for Kentucky. Same goes for Baylor. Even if we’re going by your definition that isn’t consistently getting blown out. 2 losses to bama were by 7 points or less. Is that being blown out?
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Especially when you have several guys with multiple years in the system

lol several guys with several years in the system? Bennet has 2 years in UGA’s system. Mathis has 2, but was out due to brain surgery year 1. Your arguments are hilariously bad.
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That is mismanagement.

How is bringing in 2 grad transfers due to a shaky QB room mismanagement? Is it Smart’s fault Newman opted out? Is it Smarts fault JTD’s knee wasn’t ready?
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It's not a freaky coincidence that people don't want to play QB at Georgia.

Yes, that’s why UGA has a 5* QB committed right now.

Take a lap and try again. Imagine being this dense lol
This post was edited on 11/12/20 at 2:28 pm
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7004 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 1:58 pm to
I want Kirby to change his ridiculous name. Kirby? WTF?
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
40002 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 2:03 pm to
That's fine if that's how you want to play it. He's still not getting blown out every time like you were insinuating.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 2:07 pm to
Lmfao that's how you guys played it the one year Mullen took MSST to #1.

"Yeah, but look at how those teams finished."

That's the reality, teams that have finished in the top ten have regularly blown out Georgia in the past few years.

LSU twice, Alabama, now Florida -- this is with mostly Kirby recruits, too.
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
5690 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 2:09 pm to
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LSU twice, Alabama, now Florida -- this is with mostly Kirby recruits, too.

lol and 2 out of these 4 come with a walk on QB starting for UGA because the starter opted out.

It’s hilariously you’re choosing to ignore the other comments though. I would too I guess if my takes were that bad.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 2:10 pm to
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This would scare the shite out of me if I'm a Dawg.

At least Saban's mismanagement issues have always just been at kicker.


They don't wanna hear it, but it is an objective reality. They're hoping to God that Beck or Brock are going to come in and save them, but Kirby has legitimately not had a single QB developed outside of Fromm.

So it makes me wonder why they think that the 5th or 6th time will be the charm?

Or do they just intend to bring in QBs developed at other schools in constantly? That's not a good formula for success.
Posted by Riggle
Blue Ridge Mountains
Member since Feb 2013
3229 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 2:11 pm to
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Georgia fan at my job wants Kirby fired.


Does he have an upgrade to suggest?
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27298 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 2:11 pm to
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You guys need to start being honest with yourselves.


You haven't posted a legitimately honest post about UGA in 4 years.

Do ya not remember your QB guru/whisperer HC CHOSE Franks over Trask last year?

And you wanna crucify Kirby for playing a guy that finished 3rd in country in QBR over a Freshman?

BTW,do you actually think Fromm did his career any favors by leaving? IF he'd had stayed this year,he woulda thrived in Monken's offense and there's no doubt we're in both games we lost had he played and he also woulda done a helluva lot better in the draft.
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
5690 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 2:12 pm to
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Kirby has legitimately not had a single QB developed outside of Fromm.

lol this is the first year Fromm isn’t at UGA...
Posted by Riggle
Blue Ridge Mountains
Member since Feb 2013
3229 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 2:14 pm to
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has legitimately not had a single QB developed outside of Fromm.


This is Kirby's 5th year at UGA. Fromm started for 3. So 60% of his seasons at UGA, he's developed a QB. These takes are so reactionary UGA is in a very good spot.
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
5690 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 2:14 pm to
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You haven't posted a legitimately honest post about UGA in 4 years

lol dude just posts random shite then pretends he like he never said it afterwards. Said UGA had “several QB’s with several years in UGA’s system this year” lol
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