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re: Georgia fan at my job wants Kirby fired.

Posted on 11/12/20 at 2:16 pm to
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 2:16 pm to
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It’s hilariously you’re choosing to ignore the other comments though. I would too I guess if my takes were that bad.




Your takes are garbage.

Why have the most talent in the country if you're just going to bitch about injuries? That's called roster management, and that's why Florida, with walk-ons on defense, still destroyed Missouri and then went on to destroy Georgia right after.

38 points in a single half.

Chew on it for a little bit, think to yourself: Are we seriously trying to excuse this? Not enough stars on the field?

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How is brining in 2 grad transfers due to a shaky QB room mismanagement?


This is a retarded question. That you need 2 transfers (one is a grad, the other is not) is not a good sign.

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Yes, that’s why UGA has a 5* QB committed right now.


Yeah, people are really fricking dumb. That's why Fields left. That's why Newman didn't even want to start the season with you. That's why Fromm left early. That's why JTD didn't even want to get on the field.

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I guess if my takes were that bad.


You guessed right, and just to dunk on you right here and now so I can ignore your idiotic takes in the future.
This post was edited on 11/12/20 at 2:24 pm
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
40002 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 2:17 pm to
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Lmfao that's how you guys played it the one year Mullen took MSST to #1.

"Yeah, but look at how those teams finished."

That's the reality, teams that have finished in the top ten have regularly blown out Georgia in the past few years.


You're awfully snarky today.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
40002 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 2:22 pm to
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38 points in a single quarter.



Which game was this?
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
5690 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 2:22 pm to
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Why have the most talent in the country if you're just going to bitch about injuries? That's called roster management, and that's why Florida, with walk-ons on defense, still destroyed Missouri and then went on to destroy Georgia right after.

Are you seriously pretending like injuries don’t effect the game? UGA had a 4th string QB, 3 top WR’s out, 2nd string RB out, both starting safeties out, top 2 DL out, and injured LB’s. If this didn’t matter then why is Kirby undefeated against Mullen except for this year? Recruiting can help absorb some blows, not this many.
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That you need 2 transfers (one is a grad, the other is not) is not a good sign.

Ya, usually it’s not a good thing for your 3 year starter to leave. Nice take!
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Yeah, people are really fricking dumb.

Well, you clearly are.
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That's why Fields left.

Fields left for playing time.
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That's why Newman didn't even want to start the season with you. That's why Fromm left early. That's why JTD didn't even want to get on the field.

Feel free to back up any of this with links. I guess you’ve just resorted to throwing shite at the wall to see if it sticks.

Again, imagine being this dense lol
This post was edited on 11/12/20 at 2:24 pm
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 2:23 pm to
When you got guys asking: "How is taking in 2 transfer Quarterbacks in one year a sign of bad QB room management" it's hard to be in a good mood.

Sorry, wasn't trying to take it out on you.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 2:27 pm to
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Feel free to back up any of this with links. I guess you’ve just resorted to throwing shite at the wall to see if it sticks.

Again, imagine being this dense lol


Imagine getting your shite stomped in by Mullen using players from the McElwain era after Kirby has all of his own players.

You guys also never let us slide on injuries, even though we didn't "stockpile talent" like Georgia. Again: We had walk-ons in the secondary against Missouri and still handled business.

Maybe it's coaching?
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
40002 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 2:27 pm to
The timing of Fields leaving pretty much screwed us. We didn't have time to recruit a high level qb and had to flip Mathis at the last minute. Then Fromm deciding to go pro before we brought in Monken. Then Newman backed out right before the season. It's been a comedy of errors but I don't put all the blame on Kirby for it. When you have Fromm and Fields for what looks like several years it's tough to bring in another high level qb.
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
5690 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 2:30 pm to
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Imagine getting your shite stomped in by Mullen using players from the McElwain era after Kirby has all of his own players.

Imagine having your QB guru coach be 1-3 against Kirby. Maybe it’s coaching.
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You guys also never let us slide on injuries, even though we didn't "stockpile talent" like Georgia.

Link a post of where I said injuries have no impact on the game.
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We had walk-ons in the secondary against Missouri and still handled business

Ok... how is that the same as also having a walk on at QB, missing 3 starting WR’s, and two starting DL.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25877 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 2:31 pm to
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We had walk-ons in the secondary against Missouri

It’s Missouri
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 2:31 pm to
It took an injury to Franks for Mullen to start Trask... who is objectively the more talented QB (which I'm pretty sure you have been screaming for 2 years) but he's the offensive mastermind. Who is starting at QB in 2021 for UF? Emory Jones?

As far as calling things long ago, I told you, bigD, and several other gators for at least the past 2 years that your best chance to beat UGA was this season, once there was mass exodus on the OL, probable turnover at the QB position, and Mullen having enough guys of his own to put together his roster. The outcome of this game really shouldn't have been a surprise... UF is finally a more competitive team and UGA was dealing with a string of bad fortune in a year where they needed time for Monken to make adjustments. And if UF fans are being honest, the end of that game could not have felt that comfortable between open receivers streaking to make it a one score game and a dropped pick 6. Not to say that would have meant the game outcome swings the other way, but every UF fan I know personally has been open about the puckering of their assholes as the game went on.

I'm not giving Kirby a pass, but not grading him on an all or nothing scale for a season where essentially nothing went his way. Disappointing season, but to his credit, as many people screaming put Mathis in, I think last weekend showed us exactly what Kirby saw... a guy who is just not able to read the defense and makes ill advised throws. Stetson has some INTs of his own, but on the whole, most were much more explainable. These problems are still owned by Kirby, between poor QB development/handling under Chaney's last year and Coley's only year as OC, but he has at least committed to trying to fix it on the surface.

He needed to make changes to offense:
Hired Monken, brought in best available transfer QB to run his system, then promptly had no spring ball to install, and lost that QB (seemingly due to improper agent interactions), had second transfer QB, not healthy enough to go. Mathis set as starter for the season coming off brain injury, just didn't have it between the ears yet, so he made the call to give it to the walk-on re-returned midget and made chicken salad out of chicken shite.

Criticize the Fields handling all you want, we have ad nauseum, but that ship had already sailed before 2020... Not sure what else anyone would reasonably expect out of the position given what has actually transpired that was within his control since the end of the 2019 season.

If 2021 shows me the same stubborn arse commitment to "old school football" and disregard for what Monken offers, then so be it. But we're already seeing that Monken is able to scheme receivers open... we either just can't fricking get the ball there, or it's Matt Landers, and he has no idea what the shite he's doing. It's also worth noting that at the WR position, not only were we down Pickens, and then Rosemy after the score, but we haven't had Dom Blaylock all year due to another season ending injury before the schedule kicked off.

I'm more concerned with just how long it takes us to make meaningful adjustments on defense in big games... feels like it almost always takes until half. I think there is some fundamental work to be done in coverage for our DBs, but I do have faith in our ability to make those changes.
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
5690 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 2:32 pm to
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How is bringing in 2 grad transfers due to a shaky QB room mismanagement? Is it Smart’s fault Newman opted out?

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When you got guys asking: "How is taking in 2 transfer Quarterbacks in one year a sign of bad QB room management"

No wonder your posts are so bad. You can’t read lol
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63999 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 2:46 pm to
Watercooler fans are the worst.

One of dumbest ones I remember is a watercooler UGA fan say in 2012 "I wouldn't be surprised if Gurley left for the NFL" during his freshman season, because he was mad about the USC loss.

Not all fans follow things as closely as we message board superfans do.

This goes for all fanbases.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27298 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 2:55 pm to
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between poor QB development/handling under Chaney's last year


I just don't get this narrative about 2018.Fromm finished with 30 TD's/6 INT's/67% and 3rd nationality in QBR and this is as a true sophomore...nota 5th year senior like Trask or Burrow (huge difference)How in the world is this an example of bad QB development? Fields was almost in the identical place as Tua and BOTH Saban and Kirby went the most expirenced person who led them to SEC and NC games.

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2021 shows me the same stubborn arse commitment to "old school football


But that wasn't the offense used in either of our losses and I really don't think that's been Kirby's MO at all this year except for the UK game (which I wasn't happy with and contributed to our DL/OL injuries IMO)

Congrats to the Gators for having a LSU 2019 QB play but having a 5th year senior at QB that had no problem sitting is a huge luxury,not the norm.
This post was edited on 11/12/20 at 3:05 pm
Posted by OleManDixon
Lexington
Member since Jan 2018
9234 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 3:02 pm to
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Why would anybody care what a night stocker at Walmart thinks or wants?


I know it’s just a joke, but to be fair, no one gives two shits what any random jackass thinks.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 3:16 pm to
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I just don't get this narrative about 2018.Fromm finished with 30 TD's/6 INT's/67% and 3rd nationality in QBR and this is as a true sophomore...nota 5th year senior like Trask or Burrow (huge difference)How in the world is this an example of bad QB development? Fields was almost in the identical place as Tua and BOTH Saban and Kirby went the most expirenced person who led them to SEC and NC games.


Fromm was not the only QB on the roster. I'm not saying he made the wrong call to start Fromm. I'm saying that having a poor plan in place on how to develop and keep Fields on the roster was a mistake. If you take a look at my post on our board, my honest take is that not giving Stet a scholly that year really screwed us. Because instead of redshirting Fields (which he said he was ok with publicly at least), we were forced to put him in the 2nd string role. Then we had a poor implementation of "bringing him in"... whether it was randomly for 1-2 plays with seemingly no method to the madness, or bringing him in late for nothing more than handoff duty. At least Tua, when brought in late was allowed to still run the offense. This was of course a byproduct of the fact that Alabama was getting up by 20+ points pretty easily against a good bit of their competition.

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But that wasn't the offense used in either of our losses and I really don't think that's been Kirby's MO at all this year except for the UK game (which I wasn't happy with and contributed to our DL/OL injuries IMO)

Congrats to the Gators for having a LSU 2019 QB play but having a 5th year senior at QB that had no problem sitting is a huge luxury,not the norm.


Again, I'm not saying it is. I'm simply not grading Kirby on this year alone. If we see some kind of reversion to what we think he "wants" (UK gameplan was concerning here), then criticism of his handling of offense is warranted.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 3:24 pm to
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Why have the most talent in the country if you're just going to bitch about injuries?

Because if you have enough of those injuries you won't have the best talent in the country on the field?

Crap. Dude we listened for three years while Florida fans said the only reason we beat them was because of.....injuries. Now it is not an excuse worth mentioning?

You can't make this crap up.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57681 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 3:45 pm to
It’s not the QB, it’s the system Kirby runs. Embrace the spread and stop pussyfooting around with that “pro style” offense.

With the insane athletes Georgia has, they should be a top 5 offense year in and year out.
Posted by armtackledawg
Member since Aug 2017
11935 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 3:48 pm to
cool story bro
Posted by Trumansfangs
Town & Country
Member since Sep 2018
6897 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 3:56 pm to
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Why would anybody care what a night stocker at Walmart thinks or wants?


I know it’s just a joke, but to be fair, no one gives two shits what any random jackass thinks.





Yep, we all knew that disparagement would be forthcoming.

Fortunately, a person's occupation does not cap that person's intelligence.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27298 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 5:35 pm to
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Fromm was not the only QB on the roster.


Never said he was but you used the term "quarterback" development and that clearly wasn't an issue with Fromm.Why didn't you just say "Fields development?"

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develop and keep Fields on the roster was a mistake


Not sure what type of "plan" anyone can have a QB from transferring.Heck,I'm pretty 3 outta the last 4 Heisman winners were QB transfers.

Hindsight is 20/20 but I wasn't at those spring and fall workouts so I don't how much better or prepared he was to play.He certainly didn't look ready to play at times...much like almost any Freshman whose ever played.

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whether it was randomly for 1-2 plays with seemingly no method to the madness, or bringing him in late for nothing more than handoff duty


I believe he did have 8 TD's as Freshmen...not sure how many were passes but sure,he coulda been used differently at times.

Now,I really hope talented QB's leaving don't start becoming a pattern.I still have trouble trying to figure out why Fromm left...there was a common denominator for Fields and Newman situation.
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