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re: Gary Danielson - "Alabama will have to beat themselves this year"
Posted on 9/18/13 at 9:18 am to SuperTusk
Posted on 9/18/13 at 9:18 am to SuperTusk
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Be careful trolling on the point total, too, though. I seem to remember LSU giving up 35 to an unranked Ole Miss AT HOME last year. Your 2007 two loss national championship team gave up FIFTY (in overtime, granted) and 500+ yards to Arky. It happens. Single games are not always indicative of a particular unit's season long performance. Anomalies exist.
I can agree on this point.
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Posted on 9/18/13 at 9:20 am to Alahunter
Ole Miss and LSU will pose challenges.
Ole Miss runs a form of our offense, and I think they have a faster tempo. LSU will always be a battle.
Ole Miss runs a form of our offense, and I think they have a faster tempo. LSU will always be a battle.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 9:20 am to JombieZombie
Since bama only plays a 2 game schedule this yr, and probably Ga. if it beats LSU, whether it is or isn't a truely better team won't be determined, unfortunately. Let it beat the aggies, LSU and Ga.twice, I'll go along with GD. But with this pathetic schedule..no. I disagree.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 9:25 am to tiger4178
Alabama has the best players and the best coaches, so it's just a pretty simple statement of fact.
Gets the haters maddddd.
Since the dynasty run began in 2008 there have been 4 games where the opponent flat out beat Alabama without it being primarily Alabama's doing.
Florida and Utah in 2008, both just beat us.
South Carolina and LSU in 2010, both just beat us.
The small handful of other losses during that time period (just 3 of them) were due far more to mistakes Alabama made than anything else.
Gets the haters maddddd.
Since the dynasty run began in 2008 there have been 4 games where the opponent flat out beat Alabama without it being primarily Alabama's doing.
Florida and Utah in 2008, both just beat us.
South Carolina and LSU in 2010, both just beat us.
The small handful of other losses during that time period (just 3 of them) were due far more to mistakes Alabama made than anything else.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 9:30 am to IAmReality
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Since the dynasty run began in 2008 there have been 4 games where the opponent flat out beat Alabama without it being primarily Alabama's doing.
Florida and Utah in 2008, both just beat us.
South Carolina and LSU in 2010, both just beat us.
Dude. Come on. Utah beat an Alabama team that absolutely didn't want to be there. They were 10 minutes away from playing for a title before Tebow took over the 4th qtr.
Florida in 2008 beat Bama. USCe, LSU, and Auburn in 2010 beat Bama.
The 2011 LSU game was such a close, hard fought game that it is hard to say one team "beat" the other. Whoever won that game in OT was going to be able to say they survived. That was about it. Those were the two best college football teams of the past 5 years, IMO. They just happened to play in the same division of the same conference and be great in the same year.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 10:04 am to bamasgot13
Doesn't matter if Alabama didn't want to be there or not, Utah beat us soundly for pretty much 4 quarters. They didn't win because of turnovers or fluke plays or self inflicted mistakes, they won because they played a much better game for 60 minutes.
Yeah Alabama was mailing it in, but I think it still qualifies as a game that you got flat out beat rather than one where you beat yourselves.
It qualifies way more than Auburn in 2010, that game is pretty much a textbook example of beating yourself. Doesn't mean Auburn didn't play well, they did, but Alabama beat itself that day. Unlike Utah in 2008, which just beat Alabama soundly.
Yeah Alabama was mailing it in, but I think it still qualifies as a game that you got flat out beat rather than one where you beat yourselves.
It qualifies way more than Auburn in 2010, that game is pretty much a textbook example of beating yourself. Doesn't mean Auburn didn't play well, they did, but Alabama beat itself that day. Unlike Utah in 2008, which just beat Alabama soundly.
This post was edited on 9/18/13 at 10:06 am
Posted on 9/18/13 at 10:15 am to SuperTusk
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bottom line, TIME will tell. not silly people with opinions.
So far, you spew your opinion as a truth.
How about you take some of your own medicine and STFU.
Fact : Bama D = 86th. DWI
This post was edited on 9/18/13 at 10:16 am
Posted on 9/18/13 at 10:20 am to JayDeerTay84
Anyway, with regards to 2011 LSU D giving up yards to WVU.
That is 100% different as it was the scheme.
Bama "literally" could not cover ATM.
2011 LSU "gave" underneath all day to WVU and played zone. Did the same shite to Oregon.
The idea was to make plays in space, which we did.
That is 100% different as it was the scheme.
Bama "literally" could not cover ATM.
2011 LSU "gave" underneath all day to WVU and played zone. Did the same shite to Oregon.
The idea was to make plays in space, which we did.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 10:24 am to bamasgot13
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Dude. Come on. Utah beat an Alabama team that absolutely didn't want to be there. They were 10 minutes away from playing for a title before Tebow took over the 4th qtr.
Florida in 2008 beat Bama. USCe, LSU, and Auburn in 2010 beat Bama.
The 2011 LSU game was such a close, hard fought game that it is hard to say one team "beat" the other. Whoever won that game in OT was going to be able to say they survived. That was about it. Those were the two best college football teams of the past 5 years, IMO. They just happened to play in the same division of the same conference and be great in the same year.
Agree.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 10:27 am to diddydirtyAubie
"their defense is 86th in the country though. Auburn's 2010 wasn't close to being that bad."
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You're one stupid MFer. So there are 86 teams in the country with better defenses, huh? When they totally destroy you clowns what are you going to say about y'all's offense?
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You're one stupid MFer. So there are 86 teams in the country with better defenses, huh? When they totally destroy you clowns what are you going to say about y'all's offense?
Posted on 9/18/13 at 10:29 am to coachcrisp
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You're one stupid MFer. So there are 86 teams in the country with better defenses, huh? When they totally destroy you clowns what are you going to say about y'all's offense?
You realize every "knows" Bama's D is not that bad. Jesus dude.
As of right now, there is NOTHING great about Bama's secondary. Not a single thing.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 10:29 am to IAmReality
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, that game is pretty much a textbook example of beating yourself. Doesn't mean Auburn didn't play well, they did, but Alabama beat itself that day.
Bama got off to a big lead when we were missing two keep defensive tackles the entire first half. Bama got a terrible PI call on 3rd down to get a TD when they would have had to attempt a fg. We will say he makes it. That is still +4 ref mistake gift. Worst call of the season unsportsmanlike on Fairley got bama a td instead of a punt. That is +11. None replay of Darvin Adams sideline catch late in the 2nd prevented AU from likely getting a fg at the end of the half. +14.
That is 14 points due to blown calls. Now bama made two mistakes in fumbles that could have been 14 points for your bama beat themselves position. So, we are back where we started.
Then we all know in the second half when we got our defensive tackles back bama was dominated and only managed 1 fg the entire second half.
Hardly a team that "beat themselves".
Posted on 9/18/13 at 10:31 am to Lsuhoohoo
Looks to me we have a long way to go
On defense before we can think about winning a 3rd
Straight.
On defense before we can think about winning a 3rd
Straight.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 10:32 am to JayDeerTay84
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Anyway, with regards to 2011 LSU D giving up yards to WVU. That is 100% different
Of course it was.
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2011 LSU "gave" underneath all day to WVU and played zone
What did you "give" unranked Ole Miss last year when they put up 35 on you in Baton Rouge? What did you "give" Arkansas when they put 50 on you at home in 2007?
Most of the other LSU fans are willing to admit that the yardage and point total given up by Bama against A&M is an anomaly and we won't see a team put up numbers like that against this D again. You seem to believe that the eight returning starters from last year's Bama D simply forgot how to play or lost their talent during the off season.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 10:35 am to JayDeerTay84
There's a lot of room between "great" and 86th, so to use a ranking to try to make a point in this case is.......stupid. 
Posted on 9/18/13 at 10:36 am to bamasgot13
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Most of the other LSU fans are willing to admit that the yardage and point total given up by Bama against A&M is an anomaly and we won't see a team put up numbers like that against this D again. You seem to believe that the eight returning starters from last year's Bama D simply forgot how to play or lost their talent during the off season.
To address Ole Miss 2012, LSU D just wasn't up to snuff. Very simple really.
In 2007, we were not that good of a run D vs good teams if you look at the data.
Anyway, the only anomaly was the yards. What ISNT an anomaly is the fact that Bama's CB's could NOT COVER. In Fact, the secondary was Bama's weakest point last year.
This post was edited on 9/18/13 at 10:37 am
Posted on 9/18/13 at 10:36 am to bamasgot13
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against A&M is an anomaly and we won't see a team put up numbers like that against this D again
Think that is safe to say. JFF and that offense under Sumlin is the best in the country (except for MAYBE Oregon, but I think they are better than Oregon).
If bama gets to Atl against UGA, UGA will probably go over 400 yards and 25 points though.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 10:36 am to JayDeerTay84
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As of right now, there is NOTHING great about Bama's secondary. Not a single thing.
That's probably true but I believe aTm is going to make a lot of secondaries look awful this year. When you've got a 6'5", 220lb receiver and Manziel throwing the ball to him, you can abuse a lot of 5'11", 185lb cornerbacks.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 10:36 am to WG_Dawg
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disagree there. I will say they are likely the best team in the country, but to say the only way they'll lose is if they mess up is false. They won last Saturday because aTm has essentially no defense whatsoever.
I think Oregon could very well win it all.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 10:37 am to Lsuhoohoo
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Its true.
2012:
"AJ McCarron threw an interception in the endzone."
2011:
"We missed a bunch of field goals."
2010:
"Greg McElroy just isn't clutch. LSU got lucky"
"Mark Ingram's fumble let them back in it."
"We had a title hangover and let Garcia have a career game"
Pretty sure most good teams do this. These sound almost like:
"Chavis went into prevent too early, the coverage was too soft."
"The bowl was meaningless to the team, they couldn't get up for Clemson."
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