re: Explain to me -except for anti-Bama vote - why Tua is not the best College Football Player

I could believe the five to six losses with that defense. The lucky thing for OU is that no other teams in the B12 play defense either.

Doesn't help that the perception of Alabama is that they are a boring run first offense that just grinds teams away. Even though they basically ran the Briles Baylor offense, the perception is they are a run first pro style team. I still see promos for Auburn labeling them as a smoke and mirror, slight of hand offense and AU probably runs more HB dives right up the middle than anyone. I say this to say that stats matter and for some reason when people think of Bama they don't associate the relevant stats with perception.

"If he hadn't gotten injured on the first drive, I think he would've played much better than he did. That also doesnt change the fact that our receivers were dropping passes left and right either. "

He was injured before that first drive. In every game from the LSU game forward there was obvious direct actions taken at Tua's knees from almost every team he faced. There was blatant hits that should have been flagged. People can say they are legal or not, but it is ridiculous the effects these types of injuries have on a player and they do not go away. I know. I am 54 years old and facing bilateral knee replacements due to injuries I suffered when I was younger. Surgeries do not help for long, they just prolong the process.

MSU and UGA. Plus Jalens performance in that game. It was the system, not the player.

This gives Bama a Lot of motivation.

Where you upset when Ingram won?

There is no way the announcer would have gotten his name right.

He was punished for not having a “heisman moment.” Only he did have one, on 2nd and 26.

You can miss me with the bs about that being “last year.” It was 2018 and the 2017 heisman had already been awarded. If the playoffs (the most important part of college football) don’t count towards the award for the best college football player then wtf are we even doing?

Push the award back, or count the playoffs towards the next award should the player still be at the school

Either way the stats that Oklahoma sunshine pumped are terrible if you apply opponent context, or number of snaps given to them.

his stats weren't as good and he shite the bed in the championship, not too hard to figure out

From August to October I was under the impression that the Heisman shouldn’t be awarded to someone who has great stats but never played a good defense. Funny how narratives change

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2. Hurts performance in the championship game also showed everyone that the surrounding cast made Tua look marginally better than he was.

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And Murrays offensive line and the conference he played in didn't make him look any better?

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And Murrays offensive line and the conference he played in didn't make him look any better?

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You are right...it is probably a wash, but Murray's escapability was incredible when pressure got there.

Besides, with the aggies idiotically getting rid of a Heisman Trophy winner and then defending the decision is so damned funny that a thumb on the scale is fine with me.