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Explain to me -except for anti-Bama vote - why Tua is not the best College Football Player
Posted on 12/11/18 at 1:37 am
Posted on 12/11/18 at 1:37 am
I have no other reason why Tua wasn’t a overwhelming winner
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 1:38 am to TigerCliff777
Heisman vote was a joke
Posted on 12/11/18 at 1:40 am to TigerCliff777
Tua played QB in his first year better than any QB in college ball ever - name the close 2nd
Posted on 12/11/18 at 1:46 am to TigerCliff777
STATS... STATS.... STATS STATS STATS STATS.... Errrybody!
He let the Kyker conversation really kick up after his Miss State game and then had a bad game, hurt or not, against Georgia.
I think he would have won it if he had played a good game against Georgia.
It is what it is, no big deal.
He let the Kyker conversation really kick up after his Miss State game and then had a bad game, hurt or not, against Georgia.
I think he would have won it if he had played a good game against Georgia.
It is what it is, no big deal.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 1:49 am
Posted on 12/11/18 at 1:50 am to TigerCliff777
He is made out of glass and bama probably loses the Georgia game if he stays healthy. He has two, maybe 3 first round receivers that he throws to every Saturday.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 1:50 am to TigerCliff777
Tua was punished for the Georgia game. Plain and simple. He was injured, didn't play overly great, then Jalen Hurts came in and led Alabama back to the win, basically giving the implication that Alabama doesn't need Tua to win. That is ultimately what happened.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 1:53 am to harmonics
Also, even though the Heisman is not supposed to be an MVP award I think Kyler got some votes because he was most likely the college football MVP.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 1:56 am to TigerCliff777
Tua played in 2017, Bama was blowing people out last year and Tua was there for cleanup. Don’t act like he’s never seen the field before this year.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 2:39 am to NATidefan
I don't have a problem with Kyler winning and I fully expected him to win. But, if you are going to base it on stats and importance to the team, then the lack of points voting Dwayne Haskins got comparatively was the real shocker to me. He put up historical numbers and was every bit as important to Ohio State as Kyler was to Oklahoma. Ohio State probably loses 4 or 5 games without Haskins.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 3:05 am to TigerCliff777
Voters are tired of Alabama's dominance over college football. They had the chance to vote for another player from another conference and they ran with it.
Same thing happened with Trent Richardson and the Heisman vote.How quick we forget.
Same thing happened with Trent Richardson and the Heisman vote.How quick we forget.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 3:37 am to TigerCliff777
He is too sawft. The guy cant complete 3 qtrs without leaving a game for being tired.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 3:42 am to TigerCliff777
The UGA game cost him. That was the last game the voters saw. Murray had a great game and Tua had a really bad game. Murray is very deserving of the award.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 3:48 am to TigerCliff777
Because his team is the best in the nation. It is not like he is carrying the team by himself. He did not have to win a single game by having to make a play.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 3:51 am to TigerCliff777
With QB's it's production measured by numbers. And his actual production went down then cratered against Georgia.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 4:34 am to jimdog
I don’t agree with including any games past the regular season in reguards to voting. It should be a regular season award as not all players eligible to play in conference championship games. The votes should have been cast after the last regular season games. It is done this way for most if not all of the other major awards. I have always felt this way and this isn’t the 1st year I have stated this. Tua had the better regular season and was the #1 choice at the end of the regular season and should have won the award. If you are going to include the post-season then include the whole post season. There are still 1-2 games left for the top 2 vote getters. Makes no sense.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 4:36 am
Posted on 12/11/18 at 5:11 am to TigerCliff777
Take Tua off the team and Bama still wins 10-11 games
Take Murray off the team and OU is 6-6
But lets not kid ourselves. Had Tua done to Georgia what he had done to LSU (or everyone else), we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Take Murray off the team and OU is 6-6
But lets not kid ourselves. Had Tua done to Georgia what he had done to LSU (or everyone else), we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 5:14 am to AU4real35
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He is made out of glass and bama probably loses the Georgia game if he stays healthy.
If he hadn't gotten injured on the first drive, I think he would've played much better than he did. That also doesnt change the fact that our receivers were dropping passes left and right either.
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He has two, maybe 3 first round receivers that he throws to every Saturday
And Murray has probably the best offensive line in the country and played in a conference with generally poor defenses. Yes, Murray had to play more because Oklahoma ended up in several shootouts, but how is it Tua's fault that his defense was better?
Murray deserved the Heisman. No complaints here. But Tua was equally deserving.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 5:28 am to bamaboy87
I generally don't care that he didn't win. We have more important things to worry about. However someone mentioned stats was the reason. If that's true the Haskins should have won it. His stats were better than Murray's. Also saw that someone is suggesting that Murray won it because Ou would have been 6-6 without him. Which to me is the craziest argument there is. You going to give someone a Heisman because their team is worse??? Lol. Tua didn't lose a game, unlike Murray. Even hurt led his team to 21 points vs Ga and was driving again when he was reinjured. Did Murray battle through anything like that? To me its Bama fatigue more than anything else. Or maybe its the rec realizing he didn't quite need it this year ;)
Posted on 12/11/18 at 5:30 am to Tuscaloosahonor
It was a feel-good story for the B12, which the media wants desperately to remain relevant. That, and more anti-SEC bias.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 5:37 am to habanos
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Voters are tired of Alabama's dominance over college football.
this
and his one bad game - those of you dogging Tua for what he put on the field this season is a joke. That was one of the great college football QB seasons in history.
I bleed purple but this is a great kid and had a Heisman season. Tua dropped dimes on the those great WR's he had all year just like he did to bring Bama the NC in 2017.
I know this fact - If get to pick my 1st guy to start my new team - Tua is my first pick period.
The fact he is a humble young man of faith that has his head screwed on straight adds to his greatness !
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