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re: Ex-LSU tennis player: Coach lied about abuse / Governor comments on LSU's scandal

Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:46 am to
Posted by Murph4HOF
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Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:46 am to
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Once again, the UsaToday, and SECrant as well, only fricked up in trying to make this about LSU football and Orgeron

Here's a summation of the police report:
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According to a redacted LSU Police Department arrest report obtained by ESPN, a woman reported four incidents of physical abuse by Davis between May 2017 and June 2018. In the first incident, the woman went to Davis' house to retrieve personal items and he allegedly punched her in the stomach.

In a second incident in April 2018, Davis allegedly punched the victim in the left side of her stomach and fractured her rib. She told police that a "medical officer at LSU" evaluated her injury. She provided police with a photograph of the bruise, according to the report.

In the third undated incident, according to the report, "Davis was upset with the victim for waving at a friend. Davis drove the victim to an area on Perkins road and threw her phone out the window. As the victim exited the vehicle Davis attempted to abandon her. Davis then drove back and the victim reentered the vehicle. Upon her reentry into the vehicle Davis strangled the victim."

Finally, in June 2018, according to the report, "Davis was upset about a text message conversation and thus went to the victim's apartment. He entered using a key the victim had given him. Once entering the victim's room he strangled her, punched her in the stomach, and grabbed her ear which caused her earring to be pulled from her ear; bleeding from the ear ensued." The victim provided pictures of bruising around her neck from the strangulation, according to police.

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This is a legit fricked up story, but it sits with the LSU womens tennis coaches and some high up lsu admin officials
We don't know with who the responsibility sits. The LSU tennis coaches, sure... but beyond that, we don't know because BatterySU isn't saying anything.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:48 am to
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BatterySU


I’m all for LLLsu or L1-9 but to me the above isn’t cool. PedoU for penn state want cool either. It’s not acceptable trash talk imo.
This post was edited on 11/19/20 at 9:50 am
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52506 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:56 am to
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We don't know with who the responsibility sits. The LSU tennis coaches, sure... but beyond that, we don't know because BatterySU isn't saying anything.


The poster you're replying to knows all about it

More than the rest of us combined anyway
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
11134 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 10:12 am to
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PedoU for penn state want cool either.
I agree with you that a defensive coordinator arse raping boys in the shower isn't acceptable. Because of that, the nickname is appropriate.
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I’m all for LLLsu or L1-9 but to me the above isn’t cool.
I had been just busting the LSU baws balls about everything until this week. Right now it is clear that there is - or at least was - a intrinsic problem within LSU's Athletic Department.

ETA- FBI has Will Wade on tape, now LSU official might have broken federal law after Drake Davis admitted he hit girlfriend.

Not a good look.
This post was edited on 11/19/20 at 10:17 am
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21951 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 10:13 am to
Damn, blood in the water for LSU indeed ...
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79189 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 10:40 am to
What's the takeaway here

LSU kept him around too long?

LSU coaches slandered the victim?

I'm not victim blaming, I'm just trying to put the police reports and police involvement into the timeline. It seems most egregious to me if LSU knew and didn't do anything AND the police weren't involved yet. But doesn't sound like that happened?
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32631 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 10:43 am to
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USA Today reported that at least seven LSU officials "had direct knowledge" that Davis was physically abusing his girlfriend but "they sat on the information for months, while Davis continued to assault and strangle her."
If this is proven by hard evidence- fire them. No matter who they are.
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/19/20 at 10:45 am to
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from all accounts his gf refused to cooperate and vehemently defended him every time


The ones you invented in your imagination, or from random message board posts from "a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy who knows the janitor"?
Posted by BamaRoo
Shitlingthorpe, UK
Member since Jul 2009
3370 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 10:58 am to
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It just went far deeper into the LSU admin than Guice's issues have been alleged to, also way more incidents and looking the other way. Also, some of the incidents were actually witnessed by others.

No question but that Drake Davis' history of violence against women and knowledge of it presents an even greater problem for LSU than Guice (at least from what we know so far).
Just a side-note on Davis that does NOT involve LSU but discovered in an investigation of him for
domestic violence, was possession of child pornography on his phone. He faced, in 2018, two charges for that...but don't know if they were dropped or still standing. Here's a headline of real irony from the Times-Picayune, Jan. 2016, when Davis announced his commitment to LSU.
"I'm Ready to Play for My Home State and Make
Us Look Good."


This post was edited on 11/19/20 at 11:08 am
Posted by graves1
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Mar 2011
2149 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 11:09 am to
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Both Sells are fricked, from this and the Guice case.


Are the Sells just bad people or were they doing what they were told to do?
Posted by Geauxboy
NW Arkansas
Member since Oct 2006
4856 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 11:10 am to
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If this isn't a clear case of lack of institutional control I don't know what is.

NCAA really needs to make a clear example of LSU and it's entire athletic program.


You really think if the curtain was pulled back on GA it would be any different? Or any school with a major football program? Careful what you wish for.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41304 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 11:19 am to
I get that LSU officials should have done something, but are we going to just not point out the fact that she keeps dating the guy after he starts the alleged abuse. She expects the coaches to take action against a guy she wouldn't even stop screwing.

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Lewis reportedly told police and USA Today that Davis left her bruised or bleeding on at least six occasions during the year in which they dated.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95129 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 11:20 am to
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She expects the coaches to take action against a guy she wouldn't even stop screwing.
Pretty standard for women who get the shite beat out of them

You ever seen a beaten dog, they listen pretty well to their master
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41304 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 11:58 am to
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Pretty standard for women who get the shite beat out of them

You ever seen a beaten dog, they listen pretty well to their master


So you are comparing her to a dog. Nice.

I have never heard that it is standard practice for a woman to stay with a man who beats her. Where are you getting this info? I think we must have been raised differently. I was taught and I have observed that is is wrong to continue a relationship that is abusive in any way shape or form.

If you can shed some light on this for me, maybe I have been going about this all wrong.

Links please so I can educate myself.
Posted by skrayper
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30875 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 12:02 pm to
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I have never heard that it is standard practice for a woman to stay with a man who beats her


There's no "standard practice" - human beings differ greatly from one to the other.

That said, I believe he is referring to this:

Battered Woman Syndrome

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Battered woman syndrome (BWS) is a pattern of signs and symptoms displayed by a woman who has suffered persistent intimate partner violence: whether psychological, physical, or sexual, from a (usually male) partner.[1][2] It is classified in the ICD-9 (code 995.81) as battered person syndrome,[2] but is not in the DSM-5.[2] It may be diagnosed as a subcategory of posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD).[2]

The condition is the basis for the battered woman legal defense that has been used in cases of physically and psychologically abused women who have killed their male partners. The condition was first researched extensively by Lenore E. Walker, who used Martin Seligman's learned helplessness theory to explain why women stayed in relationships with abusive men.[1][3]

Although the diagnosis has mainly centered on women,[4] it has occasionally been applied to men when employing the term battered person syndrome, especially as part of a legal defense.[3][5]





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When battered woman syndrome (BWS) manifests as PTSD, it consists of the following symptoms: (a) re-experiencing the battering as if it were recurring even when it is not, (b) attempts to avoid the psychological impact of battering by avoiding activities, people, and emotions, (c) hyperarousal or hypervigilance, (d) disrupted interpersonal relationships, (e) body image distortion or other somatic concerns, and (f) sexuality and intimacy issues.[10]

Additionally, repeated cycles of violence and reconciliation can result in the following beliefs and attitudes:[11]

The abused thinks that the violence was their fault.
The abused has an inability to place the responsibility for the violence elsewhere.
The abused fears for their life, and/or, the lives of loved ones whom the abuser might or has threatened to harm (e.g., children-in-common, close relatives, or friends).
The abused has an irrational belief that the abuser is omnipresent and omniscient.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26958 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 12:08 pm to
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If this isn't a clear case of lack of institutional control I don't know what is.

NCAA really needs to make a clear example of LSU and it's entire athletic program.



Maybe...but generally Title IX enforcement isn't an NCAA issue. It's a US Department of Education issue, and the US DOE has a helluva lot more power and ability to hurt LSU even worse.

The DOE needs to nuke LSU back to the stone age.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 12:22 pm to
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You really think if the curtain was pulled back on GA it would be any different?


What? With this Guice stuff? Absolutely

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Or any school with a major football program? Careful what you wish for.


Do we really want to talk Will Wade and your basketball program? Tennis coaches lying about one of their players coming forward?

No,this stuff isn't close to "business as usual" at other schools.

Your Athletic Dept has either gone rougue or even worse,had tacit approval for what was going on.Either way,the most severe punishment possible must be enforced.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21951 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 12:28 pm to
LSU definitely has more than their fair share.
- Wade is dirty, exceptionally dirty
- Tennis coaches should be fired today
- Orgeron has known about all of this yet still played players like Guice ...

There is definitely an NCAA-level case about lack of institutional control. However, won't happen because of connections that the LSU AD has with the NCAA
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52506 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 12:31 pm to
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Orgeron has known about all of this yet still played players like Guice


Based on?
Posted by SmokeTide
Gulf Coast Alabama
Member since Nov 2015
5287 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 12:35 pm to
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Based on?


Maybe your Bama Covid sauces? So as more people are revealed to have known about the allegations you still gonna give O a free pass? Yup my football Coach doesn't know anything about anything despite being on staff when one of the incident occurred.
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