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re: Every Teams most underrated football coach
Posted on 7/2/25 at 4:33 pm to Red Boarman
Posted on 7/2/25 at 4:33 pm to Red Boarman
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You know I'm right. Nutt screwed us over.
With all due respect, you have no clue.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 7:39 pm to TigerintheNO
Meyer didn't arrive until 2005, mediocre Ron Zook beat Arkansas and was fired.
Fulmer started the decline and made them more beatable as the years went on. A known cheater, he got exposed as a fraud.
Besides one great season at Auburn, Tuberville was average and couldn't get Auburn to the next level. Auburn is Auburn.
O sucked at Ole Miss and he admitted he didn't know what he was doing. They are a lot better now with Kiffin.
Spurrier didn't arrive until 2005 and didn't have his better teams until later on.
Fulmer started the decline and made them more beatable as the years went on. A known cheater, he got exposed as a fraud.
Besides one great season at Auburn, Tuberville was average and couldn't get Auburn to the next level. Auburn is Auburn.
O sucked at Ole Miss and he admitted he didn't know what he was doing. They are a lot better now with Kiffin.
Spurrier didn't arrive until 2005 and didn't have his better teams until later on.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 7:54 pm to VFL67
Charley Pell for the Gators. He put us on the map.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 8:01 pm to Red Boarman
Nutt had some dudes on his teams, certainly more than Pittman. The problem is they couldn't stay out of jail.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 8:09 pm to Red Boarman
Mustain should have went to a place that was less hostile. He got way more hate at Arkansas than he should have. Very childish behavior by so called adults.
Malzahn should have never been forced on Nutt and should have been left with his own choices. The feud ruined a potential historic season.
Malzahn should have never been forced on Nutt and should have been left with his own choices. The feud ruined a potential historic season.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 5:47 am to VFL67
Gene Stallings wasn’t underrated. He won a National Championship in the very few years he coached, and beat what was considered the best Miami U team of the 90’s.
It may be Mike Shula. In 2005, if Tyrone Prothro doesn’t get hurt and sadly never plays football again, we would have never gotten Nick Saban. We were up by 30 points with him in the game against Florida. After that we could barely score. Beat Tenner and Mother’s and lost by 13 total to LSU and Auburn. Ended up beating the T.Tech 13-10 who at the time said they would score 50 on us.
We were number one in the country and undefeated. With Texas and USC behind us.
porthro had better stats than Bush who won the Heisman at the time of his injury and was just as electric.
Shula wasn’t a bad coach. He was who Bama wanted. Inside guy, played football at Bama, dad was famous of course. Sometimes you just have some bad luck.
It may be Mike Shula. In 2005, if Tyrone Prothro doesn’t get hurt and sadly never plays football again, we would have never gotten Nick Saban. We were up by 30 points with him in the game against Florida. After that we could barely score. Beat Tenner and Mother’s and lost by 13 total to LSU and Auburn. Ended up beating the T.Tech 13-10 who at the time said they would score 50 on us.
We were number one in the country and undefeated. With Texas and USC behind us.
porthro had better stats than Bush who won the Heisman at the time of his injury and was just as electric.
Shula wasn’t a bad coach. He was who Bama wanted. Inside guy, played football at Bama, dad was famous of course. Sometimes you just have some bad luck.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 5:56 am to RTRnFlorida
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We were number one in the country and undefeated. With Texas and USC behind us.
porthro had better stats than Bush who won the Heisman at the time of his injury and was just as electric.
What bullshite is this?
You do realize that what happened to Auburn in 2004 would have happened to us in 2005, do you not? Let's assume Prothro remains healthy and we finish the season 12-0 and SEC champions. Do you honestly think we jump either Texas or USC considering the fact they began as preseason #1 and #2? We weren't even ranked when the season started and the highest rank we achieved before our loss to LSU in overtime was #4.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 9:42 am to VFL67
I would probably say Leach for State. His national reputation is more about what he did at Tech and Wazzu, but State fans are very meh about his time in Starkville. Other than Saban shoving him in a locker three years in a row, he was highly competitive or had success against everyone else. 2020 State-LSU and 2021 State-Auburn are two of the most objectively entertaining games you will watch.
There’s definitely an argument that he won with Joe Moorhead’s recruits and State’s roster was in shambles by the time all those guys filtered out. But basically averaged 8 wins a year in his only two full seasons and was far more successful against the Top 25 than most State coaches have been historically.
There’s definitely an argument that he won with Joe Moorhead’s recruits and State’s roster was in shambles by the time all those guys filtered out. But basically averaged 8 wins a year in his only two full seasons and was far more successful against the Top 25 than most State coaches have been historically.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 10:49 am to RTRnFlorida
Yep, Stallings wasn’t underrated. You get a statue at BDS you aren’t exactly flying under the radar. I think Shula was an asterisk kind of coach. Like you said he had the name and was a former player but we were dealing with the probation aftermath so he was more of a fill in. I think you probably have to say it was probably Perkins for Bama. Took over after Bryant so obviously huge shoes to fill like our current coaches situation. Perkins didn’t exactly light it up but didn’t let the program down either. I would have said fRan but the way he bailed was complete dog shite but the dude did beat Auburn and absolutely skull drug a Saban coached LSU team in BR.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 10:54 am to Ourichie
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Would A&M be RC?
RC lasted longer than he should have because we got lucky in 1998 and won the Big12. RC's success came in a dying Southwest Conference. All that being said RC is a stand up dude.
I think Mike Sherman is the better candidate. His problem was that he wouldn't hire an offensive coordinator. His final year we would dominate the first half and then fade away in the second half. He got the message he was fired while out recruiting, showing the true nature of the asswipes who run our football program.
Sumlin's success came with Sherman's players. But Sherman never would have started JFF. If I was in charge I would have given Sherman one more year with the requirement he hire an OC. You could see we had the roster, it just wasn't being used correctly.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 11:08 am to VFL67
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Alabama: Gene Stallings or Frank Thomas (stuck between the two GOATS)
Picking an underrated coach at Alabama is rough, as the ones that stuck around won national championships (Wallace Wade, Frank Thomas, Paul Bryant, Gene Stallings, Nick Saban).
If we're not wanting to go TOO far back (like 1910s, etc) then the answer is probably Bill Curry. He won 72% of his games and won a co-championship in the SEC in 1989; his biggest "sin" was losing to Auburn three years in a row.
That said, if I had to pick one out of the 5 with titles, it's probably Wallace Wade, but more for the fact that he ended up being more associated with Duke than Alabama despite winning 3 national titles with the Tide.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 11:14 am to RollTide1987
So you’re saying Auburn has the name Alabama does? No. And some polls had us number 1. But most had us 4 or 5. I think we would definitely have been in the conversation for sure. Tenner, Georgia, LSU and others were highly ranked in the top 10. Win over those and our name would have gotten us in, I believe
Posted on 7/3/25 at 11:18 am to VFL67
Tom Herman at Texas. He did start the process of turning the program around. First 10 win season in a decade. He won some big games. 4-0 in bowl games. Won the sugar bowl. His losses were usually close games. I think he deserves more credit than he gets.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:29 pm to VFL67
Most LSU fans would say our best coaches since the 50s are (chronologically):
Dietzel
McClendon
Arnsparger
Saban
(grudgingly argue between Les and O)
Arnsparger is not underrated at all, maybe un-remembered since his time was short, but his three years were highly successful.
The answer is Gerry Dinardo. He took over a dumpster fire, enjoyed some huge moments, embraced the job, and left it better than he found it. It wasn't a great breakup, but 25 years later, he looks like a pretty significant bridge between misery and over two decades as a consistent championship-contending/winning program.
good topic, OP!!
Dietzel
McClendon
Arnsparger
Saban
(grudgingly argue between Les and O)
Arnsparger is not underrated at all, maybe un-remembered since his time was short, but his three years were highly successful.
The answer is Gerry Dinardo. He took over a dumpster fire, enjoyed some huge moments, embraced the job, and left it better than he found it. It wasn't a great breakup, but 25 years later, he looks like a pretty significant bridge between misery and over two decades as a consistent championship-contending/winning program.
good topic, OP!!
This post was edited on 7/3/25 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 7/3/25 at 1:09 pm to VFL67
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Alabama: Gene Stallings or Frank Thomas (stuck between the two GOATS)
The answer is Gene Stallings. Frank Howard played at ALABAMA but coached at Clemson.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 1:59 pm to Faurot fodder
I'd second Faurot. He also created the template that later became wishbone, I think.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 2:14 pm to Red Boarman
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Because Nutt tanked the most talented team he ever had due to petty jealousy. Blew a landmark season in the process. He made dumb mistakes time and again. He had much better players than you admit. He was 2-5 in bowl games. I could go on.
The SEC was a completely different animal when Nutt was coach. The Bama coaches he faced (until his last epic choke against Saban) were Mike Dubose and Mike Shula.
As has been said, he also lucked into 2 of the best players to play at Arkansas, and he squandered them.
His crash and burn at Ole Miss showed what he would do in a much stronger SEC, and finally...
He begged for jobs for years.. even Kansas, and he never got even a sniff. That tells you what the coaching world really thought of him. Just look at all the retreads that get hired, but nobody would return his calls. Case closed.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 2:21 pm to deputyfife
That was the split T. All the wishbone did was move the fullback up a yard or two.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 5:23 pm to VFL67
Mike Donohue was a great coach.
I doubt many fans know about him.
He was pre-SEC, but he had some incredible teams.
“In 18 seasons coaching football at Auburn, Donahue amassed a record of 106–35–5 and had three squads go undefeated with four more suffering only one loss.” From wiki
I doubt many fans know about him.
He was pre-SEC, but he had some incredible teams.
“In 18 seasons coaching football at Auburn, Donahue amassed a record of 106–35–5 and had three squads go undefeated with four more suffering only one loss.” From wiki
This post was edited on 7/3/25 at 5:25 pm
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