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State - better than I expected, still very flawed and not talented enough to compete for the playoff. Would be tough to not get to bowl eligibility after all the close losses this year so here’s to hoping we can take down Mizzou or Ole Miss.

Lebby will be back next year but I think the jury is still out on him in many ways. His long term future will depend on both Kamario Taylor’s development and if State is able to improve further on both lines of scrimmage this offseason.

re: Georgia -7.5 in Starkville..

Posted by Captain Falcon on 11/4/25 at 7:41 pm to
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This cannot be said enough. 2024-25 schedule was brutal. Other than trading Arkansas for LSU or Oklahoma, there was not a way to make it worse.

If we had Kentucky and Auburn on the schedule this year like normal, we'd be looking at an 8-win team.

We played four playoff teams last year and two more that were a win away from making the playoff. This year we played three playoff teams, and possibly a fourth if Texas makes their way in.

Next year we get Kentucky, Auburn, a Pavia-less Vanderbilt team and South Carolina on our schedule and get to drop A&M and Texas. The schedule is anywhere from +2 to +4 wins next year.


I don’t think we play Kentucky next year but we get all of the other three, yes. And we’re fortunate to have five league home games next year, with four of them being Vandy/Mizzou/Auburn/Oklahoma, which I perceive as winnable games. The SC game is on the road so that will be tough, but you’d think State can compete at the very least. Bama at home + trips to Baton Rouge, Austin, and Oxford seem like probable L’s, but we will see.

That Week 2 road game at Minnesota next year is going to be an early must win for it to be a good season, IMO.

But obviously really tough to forecast anything for anyone this early before the portal opens up.
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I'm sure next season, when he's losing, we'll be in year 2.5 of a "complete rebuild" as well. Then it will be in year 3.5, 4.5... How many seasons is the warranty on that excuse??


Don’t be intentionally stupid. Obviously 5-7 isn’t going to cut it forever. And it will be a disappointment if they don’t improve further next season. But jumping from 2-10 to 5-7 in Year 2 (if State loses out) is not a fireable offense.

On paper a year in advance, State’s 2026 schedule appears to not be the total disaster of a schedule that 2024 and 2025 were thought to be.
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Okay, after reading your prediction, I'd recommend you put down the bottle of Bulleit Rye and go get a cold shower. A Lebby coached team doesn't worry anyone. Mississippi State beat a really bad Arkansas team and you people are popping champagne corks! We should have beaten Arkansas and we did, DESPITE Lebby. Lebby cost us a win over Florida. He has taken a good team that should be 7-2 and coached them to a 5-4 record. He's NOT a good sideline coach and he's not outcoaching Kirby Smart on Saturday. But when MSU finishes this season at 5-7, so many of you will praise that disappointing record and declare we should give him another year. Good luck with that plan.


State had lost 16 of its previous 17 games against P5 opponents entering the year and all but two were by double digits. This year they’ve played two ranked teams to overtime, lost by 2 in the Swamp, were competitive in College Station for three quarters with a short handed group, and have finally won a couple of P5 games, including beating an ASU team who was a Big 12 title contender until QB injuries ruined their season. And say what you want about Arkansas, it’s still an SEC road win where you overcome a two TD deficit in the 4th quarter.

Nobody is accusing Lebby of being perfect and sure their record could be better (it could also be worse so I’d argue 5-4 is about right given the mixture of close wins and losses). But it’s pretty short sighted to ignore the significant progress State made from last year, which was on par with a Chad Morris Arkansas team for being one of the worst SEC teams in recent memory.
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I do too. MSU isn't beating Mizzou because Mizzou are now starting Zollers and he is not playing scared like the other quarterback was for the last three games or so.


You’re basing that off what? Him playing a decent half of football in a game Mizzou lost 17-10?

Zollers may end up being awesome but the jury is very much still out at this very early stage in his run at QB.

I think State will compete because they’ve been competitive against everyone. The only one that got away from them was A&M, and even that was a 7-3 game after 3 quarters.

I’m not confident enough in State to predict them to win. But this feels like it could easily go the way of a bunch of UGA and State games have so far. State looks good early and takes a lead, but Georgia figures it out late and pulls it out of the fire again.

I can’t imagine UGA is going to totally lose their cool and get flagged 8 billion times like Arkansas did, which is probably the reason State was able to come back and win in Fayetteville.

I do think this State team is much improved and better than I thought they’d be. And I think they are capable of beating Mizzou and/or potentially Ole Miss in a rivalry game. I’m just not there with this team’s depth to think this group can beat Georgia though.

But hey I’m kinda intrigued by how competitive this one has the potential to be, given State’s resiliency and UGA’s tendency to play with fire this year, especially away from Athens.
It’s not as big of a deal or advantage as it’s made out to be.

State’s home SEC record in the last 5 years is 4-13 so it’s hardly been some big boost.
Let’s be clear, I’m not sure the door is totally closed on this happening again sometime in the next couple of years, depending on how the Lebby era goes. Jury is still out on that given that there’s been clear progress but State still doesn’t have an SEC win under Lebby yet. That said, when it comes to Mullen, repeat coaching hires have a really iffy history of working out.

I have a ton of respect for Dan’s tenure at State and think he did a ton to energize the program and fan base which in turn helped the city of Starkville see noticeable improvements over the years. I think if he had to do it over again he probably wouldn’t have taken the Florida job and would’ve just stayed at State.

I don’t think he was a serious candidate when the job opened up in 2023. New AD at the time that wanted to put his own stamp on the program. It’s really important for State as a program that Lebby ends up working out because they’ve had a ton of coaching turnover since 2017 and it slowly killed the program.
Some of us witnessed it in person and were scarred for life.

re: Baseball in the SEC

Posted by Captain Falcon on 10/23/25 at 1:03 pm to
State is pretty loaded offensively. Less proven on the mound but plenty of talent there.

Should unquestionably be the best State team since 2021. Would be disappointing if they are not a Top 8 or at least a Top 16 seed at year-end.

Postseasons are so unpredictable so I won’t go as far to say Omaha or bust. But State doesn’t lose at home in the postseason very often, so if they are playing at Dudy Noble in June, the expectation will be to win at home.
To be fair the last two Egg Bowls featured good Ole Miss teams versus awful State teams where OM was a sizable favorite, and the games were way closer than they had any right to be.

State is much better than the last two years and I’m not sure OM is a good as the last two years. Also the only other time Kiffin lost to State was in haze of job rumors, which could happen again this year.

Yeah, I can see State winning. But will need the OL and Fluff Bothwell as healthy as possible.
I realize Elander is highly regarded as a high upside candidate, but your AD being patient on this may be the wise move.

Elander might be awesome for you but he could easily be another in the list of great assistants who couldn’t follow in their predecessor’s footsteps.

Chad Holbrook, Smoke Laval, Andy Cannizaro, Michael Earley (based on the current trend) are all cautionary tales.
If you’re going to go the interim for a year route, Anderson probably makes more sense as he’s more experienced and has been a head coach in a major conference before.

Elander is obviously high upside but there’s always going to be risk with someone who’s never done it before.

Timing of it all makes the options a bit more limited.

My advice would be that whoever the hire is will almost assuredly be a step down from Vitello. Just ask any program that’s had an elite coach leave while things were still going well.
Appreciate the moral support but the trend for us lately has been to be feisty and then find a painful way to lose it late.
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There have been two expansions since then, and the second one blew up the divisions. Scheduling has been all over the place.


Since last playing at Florida, State has played at A&M seven times, they’ve played at Mizzou and they’ve played at Texas. Nine road games against teams that were not in the SEC in 2010 since they’ve played one game in the Swamp.
Saturday will be only the second time State has played in the Swamp in the last 20 years. And the first time since 2010.

The starting QB’s the last time State played in Gainesville were Chris Relf and John Brantley. State won 10-7 in a game where they attempted 9 passes for a total of 33 yards.

re: ESPN MBB Preseason Top 25

Posted by Captain Falcon on 10/9/25 at 4:45 pm to
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It’s mind boggling to me how we aren’t pre season top 25. Back to back years of NCAAT berths and returning arguably the best player in the SEC. There are some pretty lofty expectations for this years


I don’t know that I necessarily agree, I think State will be a good team but there are questions beyond Hubbard. I think this will be more of a Jans style team and generally like the projected starting 5, but I think there are fair questions about how much quality depth State has.

Hubbard, Epps, and Ballard should be good players. I’m not sure what I think of Jones as a regular starter, but he’s a Jans style dirty work guy. Achor has potential but also didn’t last the whole season at K-State last year, and after two years of being burned by Andrew Taylor and Kanye Clary… you hope the third time is the charm.

Beyond that, I like McGhee and Ali and presume they’ll be in the rotation, but a lot of question marks after those two guys. Can any of the four freshmen play immediately? Are Chol or Warren improved enough for bigger roles? Is the transfer from Serbia good enough to play? There’s also another transfer from Montana State who I’m not how good he is exactly.

Point being…. I personally get why State wouldn’t be ranked. But they play a tough noncon schedule and have opportunities to make early statements. Heck, we play Houston in an exhibition game soon as well.

re: ESPN MBB Preseason Top 25

Posted by Captain Falcon on 10/9/25 at 11:00 am to
Will just assume State is a feisty borderline Top 25 team and borderline .500 in the SEC team under Jans until proven otherwise.
He was a wildly unpopular AD at State. Seemed to have a baseball first mindset even as AD and let other sports go by the wayside. Will forever be the AD that allowed Dan Mullen and Vic Schaefer to leave and hired very subpar choices to replace them (I realize Nikki McCray-Penson has since passed away and mean no disrespect to her personally, but her one year as State’s WBB coach was a mess).

Also Cohen just was totally unprepared for the NIL era and spent his time constantly complaining and making excuses for why it wasn’t sustainable while the other SEC program in the state was embracing it and moving forward with the times.

I’ll give credit to his time as baseball coach because he resurrected State baseball from the dead and set the stage for an awesome run from 2016-2021. But yeah, screw that guy. I have never celebrated a coach or administrator departure from State as much as I did the day it came out he was Auburn bound.
I think we would potentially be a lot better than I expected but injuries are starting to kill what began as a very promising season. We have lost crucial starters to injury in every single big game so far.

Thank gosh we have a bye this week because we are insanely beat up. The three weeks after the bye pretty much tell the tale of our season, barring an upset in the Egg Bowl or something like that. @Florida, Texas, @Arkansas. Don’t see us winning all three, but need to find a way to win one or two of them if there is to be any hope of getting to bowl eligibility.