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re: Does Hurts fail under the pressure of Death Valley on a Saturday night?

Posted on 11/3/16 at 3:00 am to
Posted by Ed Osteen
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Posted on 11/3/16 at 3:00 am to
I don't really think the stadium will bother hurts. I think this game will be decided by one or two mistakes and I just hope they fall lsu's direction.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48551 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 4:25 am to
That was at ole miss against a pop warner defense listening to golf claps. LSU has the second best d in the country and he'll be dealing with tiger stadium noise. I read somebody said kiffin calls the audibles yea but who relays the checks to the rest of the team? Doesn't matter if he gets rattled or not you can't communicate when you can't hear each other that's the issue with the crowd. Plus like I said our defense hurst is way below avg as a downfield passes that shrinks the field more hits by bigger stronger athletes than ole miss. Constant pounding play after play he hasn't been hit by a guy like Beckwith yet. Look the kid is dynamic and very composed but there are things that even composure doesn't hold up against.
Posted by Sid E Walker
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 11/3/16 at 5:50 am to
quote:

He has played at Tennessee, but Neyland is not Death Valley, and Tennessee does not actually have a defense.

I agree. Bama has a lower winning percentage at Neyland than they do at TS.

Between Hurts' running and Bama trotting out multiple capable RBs, we're gonna wear that LSU defense out.
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 11/3/16 at 5:53 am to
If LSU learns how to cover 5 yards out, he might.
Posted by roguetiger15
Member since Jan 2013
16222 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 6:23 am to
Yup, but unfortunately saban and co. have feasted on us with 5 yard crossing routes. it'll be interesting bc I think our LB's are good enough to keep those passes in check now.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 6:27 am to
He may not play well, but it will have nothing to do with Tiger Stadium.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 6:35 am to
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he hasn't been hit by a guy like Beckwith yet

He won't be hit harder than he was when he fumbled against Ole Miss.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 6:38 am to
quote:

I read somebody said kiffin calls the audibles yea but who relays the checks to the rest of the team?

Pretty sure the receivers get the play from Kiffin. Hurts relays it to the RB and OL. It's not bad if you can essentially speak it in their ears.
Posted by bama1959
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2008
4558 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 6:46 am to
Hurts has already had a few bad games. Both USC and TX A&M were not his best. He just has a great bunch of teammates. Hurts has large stones and ability. He went in to Ttown early out of HS and grabbed the starting role in 9 months. He ain't going to be rattled in TS.

What I wonder is has Etling faced any adversity yet? He's about to see what an NFL defense is like for the one and only time.
This post was edited on 11/3/16 at 6:50 am
Posted by Motion Lotion
Feelgoodville
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 11/3/16 at 7:27 am to
That must be why, before bama's bye, they allowed as many sacks (14) as Ole Miss, right?

Also, a little insider football knowledge, containing a mobile QB has more to do with what happens once he's outside the pocket (where the OL usually isn't) than what happens when he's inside the pocket (where the OL usually is).
This post was edited on 11/3/16 at 7:49 am
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 7:34 am to
It's amazing that Saban still has no system for calling plays in noisy Tiger Stadium.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 7:49 am to
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That must be why, before Obama's bye, they allowed as many sacks (14) as Ole Miss, right?

Because we have used our second string more? Not all of those sacks have been against Hurts. I think both Barnett and Bateman picked some up.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30609 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 7:53 am to
quote:

That was at ole miss against a pop warner defense listening to golf claps. LSU has the second best d in the country and he'll be dealing with tiger stadium noise. I read somebody said kiffin calls the audibles yea but who relays the checks to the rest of the team? Doesn't matter if he gets rattled or not you can't communicate when you can't hear each other that's the issue with the crowd. Plus like I said our defense hurst is way below avg as a downfield passes that shrinks the field more hits by bigger stronger athletes than ole miss. Constant pounding play after play he hasn't been hit by a guy like Beckwith yet. Look the kid is dynamic and very composed but there are things that even composure doesn't hold up against.


Y'all got the talking part down...as you do every year!
Posted by Motion Lotion
Feelgoodville
Member since Nov 2014
64 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 8:08 am to
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Because we have used our second string more


Goodness. Anything to minimize apparent negatives on your team, right?

The point is, in protecting the QB, Bama's OL isn't the dominant force as you'd have us all believe. Also, when it comes to defending mobile QBs, the OL is not as important.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 8:14 am to
Well are we going to be fair or not? What's the point of looking at stats that involve players that won't see the field in a close game?
Posted by Motion Lotion
Feelgoodville
Member since Nov 2014
64 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 8:17 am to
Your 2nd string OL (at least a handful of them) will see the field in a close game. Offensive linemen in big boy college teams rotate as games wear on.

So, your premise is not only flawed, but the premise on which it rests (that OL are going to factor that highly in a defense's ability to contain a mobile QB) is also flawed.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 8:21 am to
quote:

Your 2nd string OL (at least a handful of them) will see the field in a close game. Offensive linemen in big boy college teams rotate as games wear on.

Not that much, unless there's an injury. And there's a big difference in plugging in one back up and using the entire second team.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 8:22 am to
quote:

So, your premise is not only flawed, but the premise on which it rests (that OL are going to factor that highly in a defense's ability to contain a mobile QB) is also flawed.

Posted by UAgrad93
Sylacauga
Member since Oct 2015
1501 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 8:27 am to
I don't think so. If he didn't get rattled on his first collegiate snap ( a fumble), get rattled at Ole Miss after the sack fumble, or get rattled at Neyland, then I don't think TS will bother him.
Posted by GregAl
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
3659 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 8:28 am to
It shouldn't be a problem.

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