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re: Did UCF hire a better coach than the one that left UCF for Tennessee?

Posted on 2/15/21 at 10:02 am to
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
9672 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 10:02 am to
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BC we have a better program and would beat the shite out of the Vols.


Yes, because your coach left you to go to an inferior program...

...wake up, this is the SEC and you are--hell no body knows what conference you are in, and no one gives a frick. You're a gnat on the arse of the great programs.

I'm rather enjoying UT's dumpster fire but even if nothing changes in 10 years, it's STILL not some also-ran directional school. UT at its WORST is still a "big 6" school in the SEC and the most important program in the state.

You are, at best, 4th in Florida?

Go away piss ant.

Having said that..you did upgrade your coach. Gus Malzahn beat Nick Saban more than anyone else. That's not for nothing. UT just hired a guy who can't maintain a good thing (or even his own health) and I for one can't wait to celebrate 20 in a row on them....because frick Tennessee.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 10:13 am to
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Yes, because your coach left you to go to an inferior program...


I hate to take up for him, but right now he's right.

Right now Tennessee isn't a dumpster fire. They're what remains of the dumpster fire after the fire department's left. The charred remains of a week's worth of dirty diapers, rotting food, and empty plastic containers all floating in 2,000 gallons of water.

Tennessee has a better history. Being an original member of the SEC Tennessee has a vastly higher potential ceiling. Those two things make it an attractive job for an ambitious G5 coach but in terms of actual current status it isn't a contest at all.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40949 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 10:13 am to
UCF is a better program and job than Tennessee.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
29131 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 10:13 am to
yes that's an upgrade for UCF.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26957 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 10:14 am to
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BC we have a better program and would beat the shite out of the Vols.



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SadUCFKnight



Proof that this axiom still holds true: even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Posted by OrangeEmpire
Parts Unknown
Member since Feb 2020
6179 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 10:14 am to
Tennessee is the SEC version of Texas Tech.

This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 10:16 am
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119062 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 10:22 am to
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How does that happen?


Science
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18180 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 10:34 am to
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Tennessee is the SEC version of Texas Tech.

Speaking of Tennessee Tech, are they still starting their football season next week? College football in Feb may be interesting to watch, even if its the Ohio Valley Conference

Heupel better watch out. Tech is getting a whole Spring to play games. It may not be as easy a rent a win as they wanted sandwiched in Sept between Pitt and UF.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15915 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 12:39 pm to
They didn’t. At worst it’s a push.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 12:53 pm to
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They didn’t. At worst it’s a push.


Again, based on what? Malzahn has proven he'll win 8 games a year at the 3rd best program in the West. Malzahn has also proven he has a ceiling of winning the SEC. Gus winning 8-9 games a year with a 10 win season sprinkled in makes him the best coach at Tennessee since 1990s Fulmer.

Heupel hasn't proven he can do that at all. He's had 3 teams and each was worse than the UCF team from the year before.

Is it possible Heupel had a higher ceiling? I mean theoretically I guess.
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 12:57 pm
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6942 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 12:57 pm to
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Tennessee has a better history. Being an original member of the SEC Tennessee has a vastly higher potential ceiling.


That's why top coaches are flocking to Vanderbilt. History will NOT repeat itself in Tennessee for at least 10 more years. Maybe 20 years if the NCAA hits them hard.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15915 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 1:09 pm to
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Again, based on what?


Style of play, ability to fit a system to players instead of forcing fitting players to a system. Heupel has had 1 off year and it was due to Covid opt outs on D. At Tennessee he will get the full support of a P5 program and will win or lose based on merit and ability.

Gus is a known quantity and teams have figured him out. Without elite QB talent he just isn’t very good. Hiring him would be settling for mediocrity and tantamount to giving up.

Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
12860 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 1:18 pm to
Bama doesn’t want to play UCF anytime soon now. All Knights on the Bus!
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32838 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 1:20 pm to
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Again, based on what?


Never underestimate smokeyone’s ability to produce extremely favorable vol spin.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 1:27 pm to
Heupel's offenses have some of the worst splits when you compare playing good defenses and bad defenses of anybody I've ever seen - both at Missouri and at UCF. They put up 8.0 YPP and 60 pts against UConn and ECU and then 5.50 YPP and 27 pts against Cincinnati and Tulsa.

That last year at Missouri they "led the SEC" in YPG

vs Non-Winning FBS Teams (6 games)
51 PPG
580 YPG
7.6 YPP

vs Winning FBS Teams (6 games)
18 PPG
373 YPG
5.8 YPP


They had similar YPP splits between P5/Cincy/Tulsa compared to the rest of the schedule in the last 2 seasons, too.
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 1:36 pm
Posted by Rogelio
Member since Jan 2021
935 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 1:27 pm to
He's GREAT for a team like UCF. How can anyone argue that one?

Tennessee and Auburn screwed themselves bigly.

Right now, Malzahn could take UCF and beat either one of these teams next year.

How does anyone not see this? other than Auburn fans sticking their heads in the sand. *note: Tennessee fans already know this.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42559 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 1:29 pm to
You are all over the place. You know AU is in its current position because of Malzahn, right? He has never been a great gameday coach. JH has proven he can win with talent. It is his recruiting that is suspect.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 1:32 pm to
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Tennessee and Auburn screwed themselves bigly.



Auburn did fine. I don't think Harsin will be any worse than Malzahn and they had the same guy, who wasn't elite, for 7 seasons. That thing had worn itself out.

Posted by GatorOnAnIsland
Florida
Member since Jan 2019
5793 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 2:28 pm to
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At worst it’s a push.


Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58054 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 4:32 pm to
It happened b/c Tenner told the world they just committed major violations and invited the NCAA to crush the program all to avoid paying a buyout.
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