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re: Did UCF hire a better coach than the one that left UCF for Tennessee?

Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:20 pm to
Posted by TrueLefty
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Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:20 pm to
South Carolina is one of them.
Posted by Poker Dough
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Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:51 pm to
Are you mentally deficient? I'm seriously asking before making fun of you
Posted by LSUgrad88
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Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:05 pm to
I have to think White's hiring of Heupel was much more based on familiarity than football considerations.
Posted by Leto II
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Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:06 pm to
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South Carolina is one of them.

We hired two from South Carolina. Yes. How are they cast offs? Are all of Missouri’s coaches in their first year? Or did that lesbian hire them from other programs?
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 8:08 pm
Posted by Poker Dough
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Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:11 pm to
He could double as an Indigo Girl
Posted by OrangeEmpire
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 4:48 am to
Heupel was the back up prom date.

Posted by Smokeyone
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 6:40 am to
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I have to think White's hiring of Heupel was much more based on familiarity than football considerations.



Familiarity played a role. But when Freeze was nixed by the SEC and James Franklin wanted Saban money and the Clemson OC backed out he made more sense than the rest.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 6:40 am to
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Heupel was the back up prom date.



He really was. It's one of those, believe it or not, Gus was actually the splash hire with the orange people.
Posted by Smokeyone
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 6:48 am to
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Gus was actually the splash hire with the orange people.


Nobody wanted Gus. Literally nobody. The majority wanted Lane Kiffin or Hugh Freeze. Next was James Franklin. Those were than fan tier 1 or 1A splash hires. Gus was nixed by the SEC, Lane is the new Gruden and Franklin wanted Saab money. I personally wanted Freeze.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 7:12 am to
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Nobody wanted Gus. Literally nobody. The majority wanted Lane Kiffin or Hugh Freeze. Next was James Franklin. Those were than fan tier 1 or 1A splash hires. Gus was nixed by the SEC, Lane is the new Gruden and Franklin wanted Saab money. I personally wanted Freeze.




I know you have a habit of saying that. In the meantime, they got a hell of a thread going right now on volnation about missing out on the Gus Bus. And not the first thread a vol OP has brought up on the subject during this coaching search.

Huge Freeze was always in deep hockey with the SEC and Gruden is just a tradition. Kiffin was more about never getting over the girl that left you. Now, maybe you get Franklin and that splash hire, but you would have had to throw some crazy money at him. Barner GUS BUS money. With the mess up there I would have done it.
Posted by OrangeEmpire
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 7:40 am to
Bama, ask PJVol or Vollygirl if they will unban me.

10 years is long enough, right?
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 7:43 am to
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Bama, ask PJVol or Vollygirl if they will unban me.

10 years is long enough, right?



She stopped talking to me years ago. I don't post anymore, it got so miserable up there I was having to be the voice of reason. Imagine that?
Posted by krandor
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 7:56 am to
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I know you have a habit of saying that. In the meantime, they got a hell of a thread going right now on volnation about missing out on the Gus Bus. And not the first thread a vol OP has brought up on the subject during this coaching search.

Huge Freeze was always in deep hockey with the SEC and Gruden is just a tradition. Kiffin was more about never getting over the girl that left you. Now, maybe you get Franklin and that splash hire, but you would have had to throw some crazy money at him. Barner GUS BUS money. With the mess up there I would have done it.


Agree. Even if Gus isn't the one to take UT to the playoffs if he could have gotten UT to consistent 7 or 8 win seasons and some wins over Saban it would be a step up and the you can look for the championship coach.
Posted by OrangeEmpire
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 8:06 am to
2006-09 was a good time for Volnation.

Once PJ and PomPom got a hold of everything, it became a straight up internet good old boy network.

Sweetness and her hero...........

Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 1:34 pm to
Nobody knows how Huepel and Harsin will do in the SEC. Neither's track record leaves much room for optimism, but you just don't know

Malzahn is a steal for UCF
This post was edited on 2/16/21 at 1:34 pm
Posted by Leto II
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 1:46 pm to
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Gus was nixed by the SEC

You mean Freeze, I assume?
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 1:47 pm to
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Neither's track record leaves much room for optimism

Huh? Why not?
Posted by Porky
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 1:59 pm to
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How does that happen?

Terry Mohajir hired Malzahn at Arkansas State so he has worked with him before.

At Arkansas State, they utilized a fleet of little Gus buses for recruiting.
This post was edited on 2/16/21 at 2:25 pm
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 2:13 pm to
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BC we have a better program and would beat the shite out of the Vols.


Well you hired an incompetent moron for a coach. Good luck not recruit any Offensive tackles in the next 5 year. Good luck only signs D Tackles in 2 of your next 5 recruiting classes.

I hope you like screen passes, you will be seeing a ton of them. And get ready for a run up the middle (usually for no gain) after every single big pass play you hit over the next 5 year.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 2:15 pm to
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Huh? Why not?

Harsin is the worst coach Boise has had in quite awhile. And that is one of the best G5 schools. Huepel's record got worse every year at UCF.

Not promising based on past patterns
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