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re: Did I read this correctly? 7.4 million a year for the Gus Bus?
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:36 am to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:36 am to SummerOfGeorge
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If you did a blind resume,
You mean a resume including an SEC record of 26-16?
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:39 am to AlaCowboy
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You mean a resume including an SEC record of 26-16?
So we are averaging the following over a 5 year span here
> 5-3 SEC season on average
> Go to Atlanta 2 out of every 5 seasons
> Win 10/11 games 2 out of every 5 seasons
> Win 7/8 games 3 out of every 5 seasons
> Win SEC 1 out of every 5 seasons
> Beat Alabama 2 out of every 5 seasons
Again, what else are you expecting here? And do you trust Mid-Major Coach X or a coach with in all likelihood a similar record in another league (NOT the SEC West, still the toughest division in football top to bottom and being in the same state as the best program in CFB over the past decade) to produce better?
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 8:41 am
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:43 am to geauxcoco
Gave a guy that can't develop a QB and has to use transfers to run his offense 7 million a year.
Never change Auburn, never change.
Never change Auburn, never change.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:12 am to remaster916
That’s his big flaw right now obviously, but he now has the best resume in the SEC after Nick Saban. For all the coaches that competed with Saban, Gus is the only one to get multiple victories, win the division, and compete for an NC. Most others were fired.
He beat Saban twice and nearly won a third one in 2014. All things considered, injuries and poor performances, the games weren’t blowouts in 2015 and 2016.
As surprised as I am by it, Gus earned the right to demand a salary worthy of the 2nd or 3rd best coach in the SEC.
He beat Saban twice and nearly won a third one in 2014. All things considered, injuries and poor performances, the games weren’t blowouts in 2015 and 2016.
As surprised as I am by it, Gus earned the right to demand a salary worthy of the 2nd or 3rd best coach in the SEC.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:19 am to SummerOfGeorge
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$5M a year for Mike Norvell or Chad Morris?
I doubt it takes that much to land one of them.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:20 am to SummerOfGeorge
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(b) But still, who? Taggart? Maybe Fuente? I just fail to see anyone outside of about 10-12 current coaches who I'd be comfortable letting Malzahn walk for, and I don't think there is any amount of money that would get them to Auburn. If you can hire James Franklin, sure. But that isn't happening.
Some were very hyped about Lane?
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:21 am to Jon Ham
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I doubt it takes that much to land one of them.
It shouldn't
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:22 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Would you rather spent $7.4M a year on a coach who has proven he can get to Atlanta or $5M a year for Mike Norvell or Chad Morris?
I don't think there's even an argument there.
THIS. The boogs are paying for the known rather than risk the unknown.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:22 am to geauxcoco
We now live in a world where Jimbo and Gus Bus make 15mil a year combined at 2 programs not a soul would consider a top 10 job.
What a time to be alive.
What a time to be alive.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:25 am to higgs_boson
Arguing about how much coaches make is just stupid. Its still just a drop in the bucket of AD Revenue for good schools. What matters for good programs is doing everything they can to win and showing their fanbase/donors they are willing to do so. People will pay a lot for big results but they hate paying much at all for mediocre results.
What the Auburn AD could not afford to have happen is to let their coach that just beat Bama and overperformed leave to go to another SECW school. Replacing Gus would be just as expensive if not worse and it would show that Auburn isn't capable of holding on to a good coach. Who cares if they have to "overpay" by a million or two? BTW, the concept of "overpaying" is BS anyway as the market for Top 10 coaches is $6-8 million a year going forward and going up. It's simple supply and demand, there are more schools willing to pay to win than there are proven winning coaches.
What the Auburn AD could not afford to have happen is to let their coach that just beat Bama and overperformed leave to go to another SECW school. Replacing Gus would be just as expensive if not worse and it would show that Auburn isn't capable of holding on to a good coach. Who cares if they have to "overpay" by a million or two? BTW, the concept of "overpaying" is BS anyway as the market for Top 10 coaches is $6-8 million a year going forward and going up. It's simple supply and demand, there are more schools willing to pay to win than there are proven winning coaches.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:28 am to rockiee
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Some were very hyped about Lane?
LOL - that place ain't hiring Lane Kiffin.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:30 am to geauxcoco
We would not have paid that much for him but he's proven good coach and I think Auburn was smart to retain him especially considering the current coaching environment.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:30 am to aggressor
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Arguing about how much coaches make is just stupid. Its still just a drop in the bucket of AD Revenue for good schools.
No.
Alabama had 100+ million in revenue across all sports.
I don't know what he's making now--but let's call it 10 million a year. 10% of revenue is most certainly not a drop in the bucket. Then you factor in assistants, other coaches (Avery), other sports, and general overhead?
Thing is, very few programs can afford to pay these salaries. Because most programs lose money in the first place. They did so even before this arms race.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:32 am to SummerOfGeorge
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LOL - that place ain't hiring Lane Kiffin.
tFear is already real
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:33 am to geauxcoco
You guys need to recalibrate your minds. $7m isn't going to be a lot for coaches going forward.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:34 am to okietiger
Well Orgeron was able to get almost 4 m a year and a 12M buyout from LSU and there wasn't one school even pretending to be interested. His agent couldn't even generate a news piece that O had options. LSU threw out 4m a year and a 12M buyout to hire O.
This is much more of a wtf moment.
This is much more of a wtf moment.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:39 am to SummerOfGeorge
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There is definitely the possibility Gus signs a big deal and then goes 9-3/7-5 and Auburn is back to wanting to fire him again except with a HUGE buyout.
But, I just don't think there is a better option for them (or almost anyone else in this type of situation, for that matter). Everybody hates a guy who wins 8, 8, 10 games until they fire him and hire a guy who wins 7, 5, 8 games. If a guy has proven he can take you to an elite level 1 or 2 times every 5 or 6 years, I don't think you can expect much more (unless the off years are total disasters). Gus was treading the "off years total disaster" train as well as the one fluke season train. But this year shows that he can at least repeat having a Top 10 type team and that 2013 wasn't some sort of total fluke.
Again, JMO.
I follow as well. Ultimately, it's bad timing for Auburn... you'd like this to happen next year so you can see whether this was a product of the home schedule and things bouncing your way... but this year's coaching carousel had put everyone in tight spots... couple that with rapidly rising market rates (if Mullen is making 6+/year... there are some coaches that are about to get broke off). Given what Arkansas was trying to do, SOG is right here... there just aren't an unlimited supply of coaches that you feel are objectively as good as Gus... whether you think he is elite or not, you don't have a ton of proven commodities, particularly with UT getting everyone raises and extensions this cycle.
Very curious to see what our cheap arse AD decides to do with Kirby and our staff's salaries.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:46 am to SummerOfGeorge
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If you did a blind resume, what other semi-reasonable candidates for Auburn would pop off the page as clearly being better than Gus?
I heard some Barners say Petrino
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:50 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Definitely should be included in all this bizarro stuff
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:50 am to geauxcoco
7.4 million to get your arse whipped by LSU. Lmao
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