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re: Compare Tua to all time SEC great QBs

Posted on 9/25/18 at 9:44 am to
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 9/25/18 at 9:44 am to
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Compare Tua to all time SEC great QBs


He reminds me a ton of Steve Young due his athleticism, rocket arm and deadly quick release (IK Steve Young played for BYU but, like Young, he's the total package from a lefty and possibly total QB perspective)
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33925 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 9:51 am to
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But the comparisons to Drew Brees seem apt at this point. He has that innate ability to be aware of the entire field and make a quick decision and accurate throw for a completion to any receiver.


Daniel Jeremiah has called Tua "an upgraded Russell Wilson" which is probably the best comparison so far. Don't really see the Brees comparisons except for height. Tua is a lot more physically gifted and mobile.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
19182 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 9:56 am to
He is very very good, but pump the brakes a little. I think he will end up in the conversation as one of the best, but it's his first full year. As noted, he hasn't played anyone yet other than being sprang on Georgia with no prep for him.

And don't forget the talent he is surrounded with. If you put Cam on this team, they're really unbeatable. If you put Tua in Cams 2010 team, I doubt they go undefeated imo.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30048 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 10:17 am to
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Tebow was a shitty QB. He was basically Jalen that was somewhat better at passing.


Stahp
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52656 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 10:19 am to
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I'm one of the Alabama fans that said by the middle of the season last year that Tua was the best qb on the team. Pissed off most of the other UA fans, most of whom supported Jalen Hurts.




People got pissed at you and others because y'all were giant douchebags that hijacked every single thread about the matter, and y'all could not understand that it was a more complicated situation than just Tua being more talented than Jalen. Let's get that straight.
This post was edited on 9/25/18 at 10:24 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 10:23 am to
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"an upgraded Russell Wilson" which is probably the best comparison so far


No, it isn't. Russell Wilson Has a career NFL passer rating of 98.6. His last year at Wisconsin he had a Passer Rating of 191.8 for the season.

Saying Tua is a better version of that after 5 games is preposterous. Tua is awesome I'm going to wait at least until he plays an elite college defense on the road this season for 4 quarters before I proclaim he is an upgrade over a Pro Bowl NFL QB.

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Don't really see the Brees comparisons except for height. Tua is a lot more physically gifted and mobile.


Yea, not really a good comparison. The all-time NFL completion record holder can't hold a candle to Tua in physical gifts.
This post was edited on 9/25/18 at 10:25 am
Posted by boilertiger
Member since Dec 2011
92 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 10:30 am to
Tua is a poor man's Pat Mahomes.

He will be decent in the NFL but he doesn't have cyborg arm talent like Mahomes.
This post was edited on 9/25/18 at 10:31 am
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
19815 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 10:32 am to
Russell all time great?? Couldn’t win the sec
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
9131 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 10:35 am to
Tua is like a plant that was planted in the perfect environment (I cringe as I type this...Alabama ). He has massive genetic potential and should continue to develop barring injury. Tua was also a surprise last year, nobody saw him coming. So far, he has been able to exploit all of these things and be very successful, but not great.

Great will be when everyone has had a chance to game plan for him and he still kicks arse. It's too soon to tell just yet.

Posted by boilertiger
Member since Dec 2011
92 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 10:52 am to
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Tua is like a plant that was planted in the perfect environment (I cringe as I type this...Alabama ). He has massive genetic potential and should continue to develop barring injury. Tua was also a surprise last year, nobody saw him coming. So far, he has been able to exploit all of these things and be very successful, but not great.

Great will be when everyone has had a chance to game plan for him and he still kicks arse. It's too soon to tell just yet.


A team with an elite secondary will cause them problems.
Posted by supersaints9
Colleyville,Tx
Member since Dec 2009
14145 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 11:07 am to
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You just put up a link to statistics earlier in this thread showing MSU as the highest rated defense on Alabama's schedule. At least be consistent.




You are correct . My apologies . I forgot about State. I guess that stat may change since Kentucky just lit their asses up
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
33173 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 11:07 am to
Y'alls "but muh Cam" shtick is stale as Hell. It's really sad that he is who y'all choose to hang your hat on.

frick Cam and his ghey wardrobe.
Posted by bama1959
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2008
4557 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 11:09 am to
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I think Tua will go down as an all time great, but people will always criticize the schedule
.

We're playing in the SEC W you know? Then we'll have to play UGA in the SECCG. The only reason it's not better is cause we don't play Bama (except in practice of course).
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33925 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 11:11 am to
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No, it isn't. Russell Wilson Has a career NFL passer rating of 98.6. His last year at Wisconsin he had a Passer Rating of 191.8 for the season.

Saying Tua is a better version of that after 5 games is preposterous. Tua is awesome I'm going to wait at least until he plays an elite college defense on the road this season for 4 quarters before I proclaim he is an upgrade over a Pro Bowl NFL QB.


Yup, you know more about evaluating talent than a guy who was a NFL scout for eight years. And people are talking about his potential and ability not his accomplishments.

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Yea, not really a good comparison. The all-time NFL completion record holder can't hold a candle to Tua in physical gifts.


I'm comparing him from a playing style standpoint. Brees is great because of his mechanics, pocket presence and ability to read defenses. Brees is not going to twirl around and throw across his body to the other side of the field like Tua. He's not going to run for 15 yards when the pocket breaks down. The two have very different playing styles. Tua has a lot similarities to a player like Wilson than he does with Brees.
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
9131 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 11:16 am to
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A team with an elite secondary will cause them problems.


I hope so. We will find out 11/3
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 11:20 am to
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Yup, you know more about evaluating talent than a guy who was a NFL scout for eight years. And people are talking about his potential and ability not his accomplishments.



I like Daniel Jeremiah a lot and I think he's generally pretty spot on, but the extent of this stuff is reaching extreme levels.

Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37604 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 11:25 am to
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he hasn’t played a team with a pulse on defense this year.


He won't see one the first week of November either.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49237 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 11:25 am to
Tua will not finish the season he will eventually ascend into Gump heaven with all the Bud Light he can drink and Lynyrd Skynyrd is playing live 24/7
This post was edited on 9/25/18 at 11:26 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 11:33 am to
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Gump heaven with all the Bud Light he can drink and Lynyrd Skynyrd is playing live 24/7


And if anyone knows Bud Light and Lynyrd Skynrd it's somebody from Cumming. This man speaks the truth.
Posted by supersaints9
Colleyville,Tx
Member since Dec 2009
14145 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 11:46 am to
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He won't see one the first week of November either.



We shall see
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