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re: Coming up on 60 years since GT pussied out of the SEC

Posted on 11/24/23 at 6:44 am to
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 11/24/23 at 6:44 am to
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This is dumb. 2.7M people live in the Charlotte metro area. That’s a city by any definition. Even using your stupid criteria, Charlotte has expansive suburbs in every direction at this point. There also are definitely neighborhoods within Atlanta proper. There are even residential neighborhoods in Manhattan.


Of course there are residential neighborhoods in Atlanta….otherwise the population would be 0. Neighborhoods is all there is to Charlotte, just like every other town. Real estate in Atlanta is to valuable to live on for the most part. Not so in Charlotte because it is a town, not a city.

Atlanta is the economic, political and cultural hub of the south. Charlotte is not. Charlotte is a very nice town, it is probably a very nice place to live. I have spent some time there and it’s great. So is Macon and Birmingham. None are cities.

Posted by GTnerd
ATL Jawja baby
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 11/24/23 at 6:49 am to
Atlanta is WAY down the list in murder and violent crime per capita. Just like any big city you have to be smart about where and when you are.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 11/24/23 at 6:57 am to
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I can't help but notice that YOU choose not to live in Atlanta.


I also do not live in Paris or Tokyo but both would be fantastic places to live and work. If I could live anywhere in the US I’d live somewhere south of Melbourne Florida and east of I-95. It’s possible in most of that area to catch a sailfish within site of the hill. Unfortunately I work for a living so I live within a reasonable commute of my office. I don’t live outside Atlanta because it’s dangerous or a shithole I live outside Atlanta because my job is outside Atlanta. If it moved or I was offered a better paying position in Atlanta I would not hesitate to relocate back to Atlanta because only a brain dead goober would not want to live in the economic and cultural hub of the region. Brain dead goobers scared of their own shadow who find it uncomfortable to be at WalMart without a pistol on them may be skeered of Atlanta…I am not. I have traveled the world and Atlanta is perfectly suitable to live…. And far better than most of the south and Midwest and western US
Posted by Sid E Walker
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 11/24/23 at 8:11 am to
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Bobby Dodd was a self important asshat.

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Hell yeah man, frick them student-athletes- win at all costs! Honoring scholarships if you can’t contribute on the field is for losers

Damn straight.
Posted by weptiger
Georgia
Member since Feb 2007
11782 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 8:15 am to
Decisions, good or bad, have consequences. GT found out.
Posted by Knowshon5Dolla
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 11/24/23 at 8:21 am to
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If it moved or I was offered a better paying position in Atlanta I would not hesitate to relocate back to Atlanta


I was born in Atlanta. I moved back here for work 30 years ago. When my wife and I talk about moving somewhere else after I retire we always conclude that we would be foolish to leave. We love so much about Atlanta, including its proximity to an airport that can take us anywhere we want to go. Big cities aren't for everyone. Someone posted that Hattiesburgh is a better place to live. Not for me. I'm sure Hattiesburgh is a fine place for some, but it lacks the venues that draw big name musicians. Super Bowls aren't coming to Hattiesburgh. Does Hattiesburgh even have an airport? There's so much I would miss. We choose to live based on our tastes, and we don't all share the same taste. I would never belittle another man's town. Don't call mine a shithole just because it doesn't fit your tastes.
Posted by UnderDog68
Thomasville, Ga.
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 11/24/23 at 8:47 am to
They been paying for it ever since.
Posted by GTnerd
ATL Jawja baby
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 11/24/23 at 9:58 am to
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They been paying for it ever since.


True. Another horrible decision was deciding not to join the BIG when they offered GT around 2012, Tech passed and they took Maryland instead. That head-scratcher has cost us hundreds of millions of $$$
Posted by RockyMtnJacket
Member since Sep 2023
47 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 10:13 am to
lol, you’re bringing up sh*t from 60 years ago? Were you even alive then?

We continued playing Georgia, Auburn, Florida, and Tennessee on a regular basis as an indy. Also played Clemson and Notre Dame as an indy. Also scheduled Southern Cal, Penn State, Michigan State during those years. That is apparently what “pussing out” looks like.

Independent status was a disaster for us. I tend to think the Holt/Graning incident and Dodd’s personal feud with Bryant was a bigger factor in leaving than the official narrative. And money of course, no different than FSU and Clemson wanting a better deal today. Dodd was a good Xs & Os guy but a terrible AD. Our facilities were in bad shape when I was at GT in late 80s. Took decades to recover.

Alabama sponsored us for membership in late 70s. Needed 7 yes votes, got 6. Auburn, Ole Miss, and Miss State were no votes. Georgia abstained. Florida, LSU, Vandy, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Alabama were yes votes. Had Georgia wanted us back in conference you could have been the decisive vote to make it happen.

We joined the ACC after that 1978 vote. As for being irrelevant, we’ve won our conference several times, split a NC (1990), and had a lengthy bowl streak as an ACC member. Also made two final 4 appearances and a CWS appearance. We could be a lot less relevant to college athletics than we’ve been. We’re not the 800 lb gorilla that Kirby Smart has built but that’s true of most programs. (I was surprised at the beat down you put on Ole Miss, thought Kiffin would keep them in that game.)

As for not playing in Mississippi 60+ years ago, neither did Georgia, Alabama, or the other leading SEC programs. Florida played in Oxford once in the 30s iirc and didn’t go back for decades. Ole Miss went to Jacksonville for “home” games for decades. LSU didn’t play in Oxford until the 50s. Tennessee played “away” games with Ole Miss in Memphis. It wasn’t just GT.

Looking forward to tomorrow’s game. Would love to see us do the impossible , but will be happy if we keep the score respectable. Key has us on the right track and this game is good measure of how much we’ve actually progressed.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 11/24/23 at 10:23 am to
It started with the UGA Bama game. Dodd didn't like the way Bear's players played football, considered them dirty. It just spiraled from there.

Also, Georgia finally got its act together and hired Dooley as coach. Butts had gotten stale and his replacement wasn't that good. So Georgia's rise had something to do with GT's record as well.
Posted by Cannon style
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Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 11/24/23 at 10:24 am to
Drop ARK get GT
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 11/24/23 at 10:29 am to
Posted by RockyMtnJacket
Member since Sep 2023
47 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 10:39 am to
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Georgia's rise had something to do with GT's record as well.
Yep. It’s been lopsided in Georgia’s favor for the past 50 years. Vince Dooley was hated more than the Soviet Union when I was an undergrad.

Also think you meant the GT/Bama game (61).
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28272 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 10:50 am to
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Dodd was a good Xs & Os guy but a terrible AD.


He wasn't the same coach after he lost Broyles to Arky and Graves to UF.Both were obviously very good coordinators.

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Our facilities were in bad shape when I was at GT in late 80s. Took decades to recover


Dodd left in '76 as AD but the facilities were in horrible shape especially Grant field.

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Alabama sponsored us for membership in late 70s. Needed 7 yes votes, got 6. Auburn, Ole Miss, and Miss State were no votes. Georgia abstained. Florida, LSU, Vandy, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Alabama were yes votes. Had Georgia wanted us back in conference you could have been the decisive vote to make it happen.


Always heard about this vote but can't find out much information.Very surprised Auburn voted against GT.It was a big rivalry for 'em plus it gave them a recruiting presence in Atlanta
Posted by RockyMtnJacket
Member since Sep 2023
47 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:01 am to
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Very surprised Auburn voted against GT.
I suspect it had a lot to do with scheduling. Auburn travelled to Atlanta for a long time and Dodd was in no hurry to change that. Auburn/GT was a fun rivalry, would love to see it resume.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127335 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:36 am to
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Drop ARK get GT
Drop the two most recent additions and bring back GT and Tulane.

And do not bring in the two newcomers next year.

Yeah, I am a purist. Stay off my damn lawn
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
35321 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:40 am to
Georgia Tech tried to take a self-imposed "high road" even while Vanderbilt, which obliterates Tech in terms of academic prestige, stayed in the conference.

I get why Tulane and Sewanee left - they were never going to be able to compete in size and the like, but Tech just straight up pansied out.

Interestingly enough, if they had stayed then South Carolina probably doesn't get invited in 1992 to join the SEC East, and only Arkansas gets in.
Posted by RockyMtnJacket
Member since Sep 2023
47 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:50 am to
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Not one single TECH grad (including past football players) I know gives a single flying frick about the SEC.
I know plenty of alums who’d be happy to see us in the SEC. I don’t think it’ll happen, but it would surely be good for us. J Batt spoke with Greg Sankey for a while on sidelines prior to the GT Ole Miss game earlier this season. Probably just small talk, but building bridges there can’t be a bad thing. We’re in the SEC’s back yard and have to compete for recruits. SEC is a top heavy conference and adding FSU & Clemson would only make it more so. Winds could shift on conference realignment, and our current conference is at real risk of dissolving. We need to be keeping doors open where possible.
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
9342 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:52 am to
I'm pretty sure that 50 percent of the people on this board who post about Atlanta being a shite hole have never left the state of Alabama and never actually been to Atlanta.
Posted by RockyMtnJacket
Member since Sep 2023
47 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 12:42 pm to
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Vanderbilt, which obliterates Tech in terms of academic prestige, stayed in the conference.
US News ranks Vandy #18 and GT #33 for national universities. Vandy costs about $60K per year. GT is $12K in state and $32K out of state. We’re different schools for different purposes. Vandy is private and best known for its law and medical schools. GT is public and known for producing engineers and scientists. Duke is private, has law and medical schools, and competes in a power conference. It’s a more direct comparison to Vandy.

Don’t know why an Alabama fan needs to trash GT for a decision 60 years ago by a man who’s been dead for over 30. Dodd & Bryant ultimately did put their differences aside, to include GT & Bama resuming play during their lifetimes. They let it go a long time ago.
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