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re: Coach Jim Donnan said Kent State is better than Mizzou, Vandy and .....

Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:04 am to
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25553 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:04 am to
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But instead of just acknowledging that the UGA apologist has to pretend Kent St somehow is good now.


Hall of Fame coach Jim donnan didn't say Kent St was good. He said the QB is good.

The QB has the ol Jeff George wrist flick down pretty good. It was impressive to see. Fastest release that I've seen in college in at least a decade. Zone coverage. Eyes on the QB. And the defender can't break fast enough on the receiver because the ball is out so fast.

QB made mistakes too. He threw a YOLO ball that got picked off in double coverage. Was off target a few times.

I haven't watched the SEC bottomfeeders yet this season. So I don't know it Hall of Fame coach Donnan is correct. But the QB for the zips has some talent.
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
8966 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:07 am to
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Did he offer any hot tops on investments?


No, but he did say "stay away from Albert Means. We don't want any part of what's going on with that."
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32800 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:12 am to
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the UGA apologist has to pretend Kent St somehow is good now.


There was not even a hint of this claim of yours in the post.
Posted by mouse_cop
The South
Member since Aug 2019
2843 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:23 am to
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He isn't making excuses for UGA's performance.


Of course he is, how could a claim like this be anything other than making excuses for UGA’s performance? Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59599 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:24 am to
Whom do you speak of?
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
8966 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:27 am to
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Whom do you speak of?
Missouri Tigers. Football team of U of M in Columbia.
This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 7:28 am
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59599 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:35 am to
Ohh that team that has been to atlanta more than ole miss and aggy?
Posted by 1801
Charleston
Member since Aug 2012
6294 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:38 am to
that time Marshall was a good enough football program to win even Dannon a football national title but Georgia wasn't

Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:57 am to
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Jim Donnan contributed to UGAs underachieving as much as any coach. He was just another coach that couldn't really handle the big stage.


would you say the same about literally every coach in NCAA history that didn't win a natty? Donnan inherited the absolute dumpster fire that was the ray goff era that was riddled with losing seasons, progrma apathy, and a jan kemp situation that self imposed restrictions on our recruiting that no other sec teams (ok, probably vandy) had to deal with. He eleveated our recruiting immediately and put a much better product on the field than his predecessor. We were losing regularly under goff and beginning in donna's second year won 10 games (something we only did 1 other time that decade) and beat UF, then won 9, 8,8 game teh rest of the way. Remember most of htose seasons only had 11 regular season games as well.

Donnan served a very important role in UGA football history dragging us out of the muck and mire left by goff to be able to stand on our feet again, then handed the baton to richt who took us from being on our feet to ruhnning again, who then handed it off to kirby who's made us fly. All have served their purpose in their own way.
Posted by multicampus
Member since Oct 2021
1191 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:01 am to
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Who dafuq is this guy anyway


He's a guy who coached at Mizzou.
Posted by bunkerhill
Georgia
Member since Oct 2017
1368 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:20 am to
Donnan can say what he wants to say but don't use that to defame us old dudes.

We have seen a lot and in my case remember a lot.
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5212 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:53 am to
They are!
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:04 am to
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We've been lucky that every hire was better than their predecessor. Three in a row. Not a lot of schools can say that. Can you?


If every coach left it better than his predecessor, then the improvements were very minor or your view is FOS. UGA underachieved under Donnan and Richt and really didn't have much to show for their tenure. Especially since some of Donnan time occurred when the SEC was just UF. Both were in the middle of the recruiting hotbed, yet an all-star team of players who left the state would kick UGAs arse.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:10 am to
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If every coach left it better than his predecessor, then the improvements were very minor or your view is FOS


It's not really debatable what he said. We're talkign about actual, real life on the field results, not views.

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UGA underachieved under Donnan


according to who? People always try to point out how shitty our program is and how uf/au/ut/lsu are all better than us so how exactly did we underachieve?

That was a bit facetious as I do agree we somehwat underachieved, but the problem was that we had 2 other teams in our divison that were nationally elite at the same time. That'd be like blaming arkansas or ole miss in the current era for not being elite while ignoring that they happen to have saban on the schedule yearly.

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Richt and really didn't have much to show for their tenure.


now you're just being silly. That doesn't even require follow up.

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Especially since some of Donnan time occurred when the SEC was just UF


Yeah, "just" a team in our divsion that we play yearly which prevented us from ever winning the east. "just" a team that was regularly in teh top 5 and national title contenders and pretty much ran the league for a decade.

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Both were in the middle of the recruiting hotbed,


Do you think UGA was allowed to sign 98 recruits every year? You could only get around 20 or so and all the rest had to go elsewhhere. Donnan was a perfectly fine recruiter and actually had the #1 class nationally in '98 according to some services

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yet an all-star team of players who left the state would kick UGAs arse.


good thing we upgraded to a better coach in richt then
Posted by BrotherDawg84
Member since Dec 2020
3103 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:13 am to
Kent State has a good shot at winning the MAC. They’re a decent football team.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25553 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:22 am to
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UGA underachieved under Donnan and Richt and really didn't have much to show for their tenure. Especially since some of Donnan time occurred when the SEC was just UF.

Ummm. UF and Tennessee in the 90s. Both in the East.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11438 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:24 am to
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Also said Kent State's QB would start for most of the bad SEC teams, including Auburn.


There are some kids playing this Friday night, that would probably start at Auburn.
Posted by Foy
Member since Nov 2009
3354 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:43 am to
The ponzi scheme guy?
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:45 am to
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That was a bit facetious as I do agree we somehwat underachieved, but the problem was that we had 2 other teams in our divison that were nationally elite at the same time.


That eliteness happens because of the competition. Just like the dynamics of the SECE, if certain programs are average at best then some teams just breeze through the schedule. Something the SECW hasn't seen most years. Why you have seen the run of UGA recently. Where UK is their biggest competition.

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according to who? People always try to point out how shitty our program is and how uf/au/ut/lsu are all better than us so how exactly did we underachieve?


UGA underachieved due to the talent available and the competition many years.

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That'd be like blaming arkansas or ole miss in the current era for not being elite while ignoring that they happen to have saban on the schedule yearly.


No, Bama always had LSU or AU to compete with and one year Ole Miss, MSU and AU were all in the CFP top 4. UGA rarely played Bama during their best run in their history.

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Yeah, "just" a team in our divsion that we play yearly which prevented us from ever winning the east. "just" a team that was regularly in teh top 5 and national title contenders and pretty much ran the league for a decade.


What was UGAs record those years? What was their record against UF during the Donnan and Richt eras, while playing the game at a neutral site?

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Do you think UGA was allowed to sign 98 recruits every year? You could only get around 20 or so and all the rest had to go elsewhhere. Donnan was a perfectly fine recruiter and actually had the #1 class nationally in '98 according to some services



I am sure the ones UGA did sign were highly rated in HS. The staffs just didn't develop the players, which is something those 3 stars did when they got away.

I said for years that UGA was a sleeping giant due to their location. Even with Kirby, the team still has holes that shouldn't be there.
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
8906 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:45 am to
I watched the Missouri-Auburn game this past weekend and I am absolutely ready to believe that any football team you care to name is better than either of those two.
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