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re: Coach Jim Donnan said Kent State is better than Mizzou, Vandy and .....
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:47 am to meansonny
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:47 am to meansonny
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Ummm. UF and Tennessee in the 90s. Both in the East.
Their dominance was due to lack of competition elsewhere. Season was over after the early season game between UF-UT.
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:03 am to Irons Puppet
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If every coach left it better than his predecessor, then the improvements were very minor or your view is FOS. UGA underachieved under Donnan and Richt and really didn't have much to show for their tenure. Especially since some of Donnan time occurred when the SEC was just UF. Both were in the middle of the recruiting hotbed, yet an all-star team of players who left the state would kick UGAs arse.
Donnan took over for Goff who only got over six wins twice in seven seasons, two of which were losing seasons.
After Donnan's first season, he had four straight years of eight wins or better.
That's better than his predecessor.
Dooley wanted to give him one more year. Adams fired him mainly over an off-the-field issue.
Mark Richt coached UGA for 15 seasons, one of which was losing. Of the other 14, nine had 10 or more wins.
That's better than his predecessor.
So, while one can argue that UGA underachieved under Donnan and Richt, they both clearly left the program "better than they found it" which is what the other guy posted.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:06 am to koreandawg
Donnan really needs to stay at the house and off the airways if he is not going to do any real research.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:12 am to multicampus
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After Donnan's first season, he had four straight years of eight wins or better.
Still had talent but underachieved. You are comparing one coaches record to the next and you deem that success. The true indicator is what the potential of the program and did a coach meet that potential. Neither coach did.
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Mark Richt coached UGA for 15 seasons, one of which was losing. Of the other 14, nine had 10 or more wins.
Richt was the best person to coach in the SEC, and he had good records. Truth is he didn't have them at the level they should have been. The definition of underachieving.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:12 am to koreandawg
Is he wrong??? All i see this year in the SEC are Tennessee, UGA, Bama, Florida, Kentucky and a lot of cupcakes.
This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:13 am to koreandawg
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But you know, building up a team that got beat by Texas Tech. That's cool, cause TT is good.
But didn’t TT smoke Miss St like a brisket last year? And Miss St was favored?
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:14 am to MrJennings
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Is he wrong??? All i see this year in the SEC are Tennessee, UGA, Bama Florida, Kentucky and a lot of cupcakes.
Truth is UGA and Bama are the only real teams in the league this year. The rest will look good against the cupcakes, but have big holes in their team.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:21 am to koreandawg
I’ve got to believe there’s some kind ‘Saban played there so being plucky and hardazz is in their DNA’ transitive property going on. Prove me wrong.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:25 am to Irons Puppet
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Truth is UGA and Bama are the only real teams in the league this year. The rest will look good against the cupcakes, but have big holes in their team.
If you view it this way, you could also say that UGA, Bama and OSU are the only real teams in the nation this year.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:29 am to DawginSC
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If you view it this way, you could also say that UGA, Bama and OSU are the only real teams in the nation this year.
All three have holes but are less than their competition. Any one of them can fall at some point.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:49 am to koreandawg
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:53 am to koreandawg
They would probably beat Mizzou, and I'm sure their QB is better than ours. Nothing controversial in what he said there.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:58 am to koreandawg
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Wrong. He left UGA better than he found it.
Then why did y'all run him off?
Posted on 9/28/22 at 11:05 am to koreandawg
quote:spot on
Wrong. He left UGA better than he found it. Same can be said of Richt and will be said of Kirby. We've been lucky that every hire was better than their predecessor. Three in a row. Not a lot of schools can say that. Can you?
quote:Jim Donnan contributed to UGAs underachieving as much as any coach.
in fact, one of the points of criticism against Richt was that he seemed to do a little better with Donnan’s players early on that he did with his own later in his tenure…
Posted on 9/28/22 at 11:06 am to Auburn80
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quote:Wrong. He left UGA better than he found it.
Then why did y'all run him off?
He failed, by and large, against our 3 biggest rivals and also failed to bring home an SEC championship
Posted on 9/28/22 at 11:09 am to Auburn80
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Wrong. He left UGA better than he found it.
Then why did y'all run him off
do some of yall think or do you only want to be antagonistic? It shouldn't be unfathomable that a guy could improve the program (he did) but still not get it to the level desired.
He was fired because he lost 3 in a row to tech and he enver won the east. That has absolutely nothing to do with the question of "did he leave the program better off than it was in 1995" whihc is an unequivocal yes.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 11:10 am to dcbl
Don an was an elite 1AA Coach , but an average 1A Coach. Richt ran a clean program, but underachieved with talent. His biggest continuation was keeping UGA out of trouble.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 12:31 pm to Irons Puppet
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Still had talent but underachieved. You are comparing one coaches record to the next and you deem that success. The true indicator is what the potential of the program and did a coach meet that potential. Neither coach did.
The UGA guy posted that Donnan and Richt left the program better than they found it. The numbers back up that statement. Donnan had a better winning percentage than Goff. Richt had a better winning percentage than Donnan.
You keep trying to insert underachieving as the measurement, but that's not what the guy was stating. He said each coach left the program better than the previous coach, and that is indisputably correct.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 12:34 pm to koreandawg
I wouldn't let Jim babysit my goats he is a character who screwed over peoplw who trusted him or he is as dumb as a rock eitherway.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 12:47 pm to lewis and herschel
Fwiw, wasn't guilty. He turned out to be a victim as well.
That doesn't bode well for his judge of character and helping those who trusted him. But he wasn't the first to be conned and won't be the last.
That doesn't bode well for his judge of character and helping those who trusted him. But he wasn't the first to be conned and won't be the last.
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