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re: Can A&M become the premier University in Texas?
Posted on 4/2/13 at 4:35 pm to Bamatab
Posted on 4/2/13 at 4:35 pm to Bamatab
TAMU is a very good school; no doubt about it.
But I think that Texas is better OVER ALL. The lack of credible Fine Arts education at TAMU is a big negative, for example. Texas has this covered well.
Also, the UT system Med Schools are far superior to TAMU, as is the Texas Law School.
Of course, the TAMU vet school is outstanding.
Science, Engineering, and Business are probably a wash between the two.
But I think that Texas is better OVER ALL. The lack of credible Fine Arts education at TAMU is a big negative, for example. Texas has this covered well.
Also, the UT system Med Schools are far superior to TAMU, as is the Texas Law School.
Of course, the TAMU vet school is outstanding.
Science, Engineering, and Business are probably a wash between the two.
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Posted on 4/2/13 at 4:36 pm to RebStang
This guy here trying to act like SMU is held in the same esteem as Rice... 
SMU puts out finance degrees and attorneys but I can't think of the last time I met an SMU engineer of any type, hard science research academic of any stripe, vet, accountant, medical doctor, pharmacist, or nurse... because I haven't ever met one of those.
Let me set it straight for people not from Texas:
When it comes to super-egghead academic elite, Rice is king in Texas. After that it's Texas, followed closely by A&M, then the SMUs, TCUs, and Baylors of the state squabble over who has the best law school, then UH, then Tech, then everyone else is basically the same.
When you're talking hard scientific research, no one has a bigger budget than A&M. That's not to say UT doesn't do the same stuff up at J.J. Pickle to much the same degree as A&M, but A&M is now pouring more money into research than anyone in the state.
SMU puts out finance degrees and attorneys but I can't think of the last time I met an SMU engineer of any type, hard science research academic of any stripe, vet, accountant, medical doctor, pharmacist, or nurse... because I haven't ever met one of those.
Let me set it straight for people not from Texas:
When it comes to super-egghead academic elite, Rice is king in Texas. After that it's Texas, followed closely by A&M, then the SMUs, TCUs, and Baylors of the state squabble over who has the best law school, then UH, then Tech, then everyone else is basically the same.
When you're talking hard scientific research, no one has a bigger budget than A&M. That's not to say UT doesn't do the same stuff up at J.J. Pickle to much the same degree as A&M, but A&M is now pouring more money into research than anyone in the state.
This post was edited on 4/2/13 at 4:44 pm
Posted on 4/2/13 at 4:37 pm to DocHog
DocHog, you are correct.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 4:39 pm to tiger perry
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UT is the flagship of that state...
premier university in Texas = $$$$$
Posted on 4/2/13 at 4:43 pm to DWag215
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So just to be clear, we're evaluating the two networks (together comprising probably 800k people)--and how one is conclusively stronger--based on your experience on Wall Street?
Not playing this game, I gave micro real world examples in an area that the more macro you get the more convolution of data occurs. I can give a lot more but you haven't given anything to say A&M's is better other than some article writtin by an author that hasn't written about anything other than women's lifestyle in 2 years from a magazine that I stopped reading because their bias misconstrues the market landscape pretty often.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 4:45 pm to Cooter Davenport
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This guy here trying to act like SMU is held in the same esteem as Rice...
SMU puts out finance degrees and attorneys but I can't think of the last time I met an SMU engineer of any type, hard science research academic of any stripe, vet, accountant, medical doctor, pharmacist, or nurse... because I haven't ever met one of those.
Let me set it straight for people not from Texas:
When it comes to super-egghead academic elite, Rice is king in Texas. After that it's Texas, followed closely by A&M, then the SMUs, TCUs, and Baylors of the state squabble over who has the best law school, then UH, then Tech, then everyone else is basically the same.
Not even remotely trying to say that SMU is equal to Rice... Rice is the king in Texas when it comes to academic standards and national reputation and nobody else is even very close.
Texas is #2 based on just about every ranking and SMU is a bit behind at #3. A&M is just a bit behind SMU at #4 and then there's a larger gap going down to Baylor and then TCU... the Lugheads from Lubbock barely even deserve to be called a University and North Texas is probably worse than Collin County Community College.
This isn't personal opinion... it's straight from the most recently released rankings by the most commonly used source of University rankings (US News). Fact is, anything inside the top 100 is a damn good school and you don't really start seeing a big difference until you get into the top 20-30.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 4:47 pm to BennyAndTheInkJets
No, your insight is good. It's just not sufficient to prove your position.
I'm far too lazy to research the issue. And I simply don't care enough to assume the burden of proof on this (meaning, you don't have to believe me). So I shifted it to you to prove UT's is stronger. And if your anecdotes are all you have, then fine. It's just not persuasive--at least not to me.
I'm far too lazy to research the issue. And I simply don't care enough to assume the burden of proof on this (meaning, you don't have to believe me). So I shifted it to you to prove UT's is stronger. And if your anecdotes are all you have, then fine. It's just not persuasive--at least not to me.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 4:51 pm to DWag215
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No, your insight is good. It's just not sufficient to prove your position. And if your anecdotes are all you have, then fine. It's just not persuasive--at least not to me.[/
Not just me, everyone I've talked to that deals with university alumni in business talks about how good UT's is. However, "my friend said this" is pretty much bullshite on a message board so I refrained and tried to give personal anecdotes. Believe what you want.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 4:51 pm to RebStang
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This isn't personal opinion... it's straight from the most recently released rankings by the most commonly used source of University rankings (US News).
Schools shift annually. Just last year TAMU was above both Florida and Georgia (not sure about SMU). Don't hang your hat too much on these vacillating rankings. There's hardly any consistency.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 4:52 pm to hawgfaninc
Texas will always rule them. It really is embarrassing for the rest of the SEC to have to read their inferiority complex comments and threads on most every message board.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 4:53 pm to RebStang
SMU isn't even an AAU member institution. Unless you're an AAU member you're not even the same CLASS of university as Rice, Texas, or Texas A&M. SMU doesn't belong in the same breath as the others. It's like one of those Highlights magazines for kids "which one of these is not like the others?" SMU.
This post was edited on 4/2/13 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 4/2/13 at 4:56 pm to BennyAndTheInkJets
That's all good. I think I'll care more once I notice a material difference down here in Texas--on a wide spectrum, that is.
But as it stands, I just don't see it (again, on an invariable, macro level; such that one could say UT network > Aggie network--definitively speaking). Except as a lawyer, I'm keenly aware of who dominates this work. And that's fine.
But as it stands, I just don't see it (again, on an invariable, macro level; such that one could say UT network > Aggie network--definitively speaking). Except as a lawyer, I'm keenly aware of who dominates this work. And that's fine.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 5:01 pm to Bamatab
It won't be ONLY the Aggies pulling the TV sets in TX to the SEC Network.
SE TX has a ton of LSU grads. I think Houston is home to the most LSU grads and that's insane.
Dallas has a metric shite ton of Arkansas grads
San Antonio has a bunch of military and they lean our way.
Every major market not only has Aggies, but a lot of other SEC support.
SE TX has a ton of LSU grads. I think Houston is home to the most LSU grads and that's insane.
Dallas has a metric shite ton of Arkansas grads
San Antonio has a bunch of military and they lean our way.
Every major market not only has Aggies, but a lot of other SEC support.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 5:03 pm to omrebelfan20
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Texas will always rule them. It really is embarrassing for the rest of the SEC to have to read their inferiority complex comments and threads on most every message board.
wow, just wow. i'm as big an aggie hater as you'll find but ya gotta give them their due. they came from small military only cow college to premier university. yes, the texas oil money was needed but there was some damn good leadership involved also. it is your statement above that you should find embarrasing.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 5:06 pm to hawgfaninc
SMU
Posted on 4/2/13 at 5:15 pm to omrebelfan20
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Texas will always rule them. It really is embarrassing for the rest of the SEC to have to read their inferiority complex comments and threads on most every message board.
Standard moronic anti-A&M retort. Also seen in Manziel threads.
Step 1: Fan from another school starts a thread about A&M
Step 2: A&M fan responds
Step 3: OMG A&M, STOP TALKING ABOUT IT
Posted on 4/2/13 at 5:16 pm to Mootsman
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TBirdSpur2010:
I'd say times have definitely changed Always got a response when I said "Howdy," to a female walking across campus.
Another reason to detest AF pukes! Or maybe just younger people.
Hats off to LSU Grandad, well-said from a not-young-whippersnapper that had women crawling all over him like the AF puke.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 5:19 pm to finestfirst79
Posted on 4/2/13 at 5:19 pm to BennyAndTheInkJets
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A&M is a great school but their network isn't really even comparable.
The term "Longhorn network" doesnt even exist down here. Ask anyone in this state what college network is loyal to the point of being nauseating, you'll only get one response: The Aggie Network.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 5:22 pm to finestfirst79
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SMU isn't even an AAU member institution. Unless you're an AAU member you're not even the same CLASS of university as Rice, Texas, or Texas A&M. SMU doesn't belong in the same breath as the others. It's like one of those Highlights magazines for kids "which one of these is not like the others?" SMU.
I'm proud that A&M is an AAU member but this is another nonsensical issue. AAU membership is based strictly on research studies. If a school turns out primarily lawyers and teachers and BA-type people, would you expect them to have a big research budget? No, of course not. Does that mean it isn't a good school? Again, of course not.
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