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re: Butch Jones wasted so much opportunity

Posted on 8/14/22 at 4:21 pm to
Posted by ptclaus98
Member since Dec 2014
1203 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 4:21 pm to
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After lsu got lucky as the worst ever team to win the MNC in 2007, lsu has had some serious struggle bus seasons.


They've won a natty and gotten to another one. Lets be real, they aren't Auburn.
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 4:22 pm to
quote:

I guarantee I know more about this program than you


We should meet and compare who and what we know about UT. You will learn something.
Posted by ptclaus98
Member since Dec 2014
1203 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 4:25 pm to
quote:



We should meet and compare who and what we know about UT. You will learn something.


That you're a geriatric dumbass? You're the typical VN blowhard that doesn't even know what happened 5 years ago.
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 4:32 pm to
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That you're a geriatric dumbass? You're the typical VN blowhard that doesn't even know what happened 5 years ago.
You stupid jackass. You're the typical know-nothing little shite stain that doesn't have a clue about the inner workings of the program You're that little bastard we we see KPD dragging out covered in puke.

Geriatric? Anytime your punk bitch little arse wants to grab a handful. Let me know. fricking titty baby.

You probably think UT people are still running the show up there.

VN? I have made one post there in 10 years. A memorial post to HatVol. You seem familiar with the place.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15940 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 4:39 pm to
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Fulmer in the 90s?


BCS Fulmer is likely in 4-5 CFP and wins atleast 2. The only team he couldn’t play with was Florida.
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 4:41 pm to
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BCS Fulmer is likely in 4-5 CFP and wins atleast 2. The only team he couldn’t play with was Florida.
It wasn't so much Florida. It was Spurrier.

Spurrier used to beat Phil before Saturday rolled around. He was in Fulmer's head in a bad way.
Posted by ptclaus98
Member since Dec 2014
1203 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 4:45 pm to
quote:

BCS Fulmer is likely in 4-5 CFP and wins atleast 2. The only team he couldn’t play with was Florida.


The only ones I'm seeing are 1995 and 1997, and no one was beating Nebraska either year
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 4:46 pm to
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Your "also-ran" status starts again in 2022.


What is your definition of also ran?

quote:

You will not repeat.


It’s pretty damn hard to repeat, but our program is in great hands for another championship.
Posted by MrMojoRisin
Udûn
Member since May 2014
6979 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 4:50 pm to
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Year 1 of the BCS to be 4 decades ago.


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Dude. It’s 2022 right now….. 1. 2020’s 2. 2010’s 3. 2000’s 4. 1990’s



Even using this ridiculous way of looking at things, you’re still wrong.

2020’s - current decade
2010’s - 1 decade ago, not 2.
2000’s - 2 decades ago
1990’s - 3 decades ago


I’m all for trolling Tennessee, but 4 decades is a ridiculous take. You should have stuck to the not in modern football argument. Or not this century, before the playoffs, before the iPhone, before any recruits were born, etc. There are a lot of options to take without having to make Irons Puppets level leaps in logic.
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 4:53 pm to
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What is your definition of also ran?

How many national champions are there?

ONE!

CFB is not a horse race. You don't have win, place, show.

You either win the trophy, or you are an also-ran.
Posted by BranchDawg
Flowery Branch
Member since Nov 2013
9830 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 4:54 pm to
quote:

You will not repeat. Bookmark this post.


You say this like taking the field is a hot take. It’s not. If I had to wager, I’d wager on us not winning the title this year. A lot of youth on this team, especially on defense, which is the cornerstone of Kirby’s system.

A team hasn’t repeated as champions in a decade and it’s only happened once since the turn of the 2000’s.

quote:

UGA was an "also-ran" for 41 years.


Lol. If Georgia has been an also-ran for the last 41 years, then what the frick has Tennessee been since 1999? Pool scum? Georgia ranks in the top 4 in major college football in wins since 2000. If your only qualification for not being an also-ran is winning a championship, then I guess Alabama was an also-ran last year, huh? They’ve actually been an also-ran for the majority of Saban’s season.

Why is your fanbase so fricking retarded?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 4:56 pm to
quote:

BCS Fulmer is likely in 4-5 CFP and wins atleast 2. The only team he couldn’t play with was Florida.


You must have been concussed to forget this opponent:

LINK
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 5:09 pm to
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How many national champions are there? ONE! CFB is not a horse race. You don't have win, place, show. You either win the trophy, or you are an also-ran.


This must mean there are many tiers for an also ran. Vols must be way down the list.
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 5:13 pm to
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This must mean there are many tiers for an also ran. Vols must be way down the list.
Look, you insecure little boys.

Tennessee has been an also-ran since we won in 1998. That is just the cold hard facts.

CFB has one champion. You're either it or you're not.

Enjoy your "it" year.

Y'all will be back to being the Almost Champions again in January.
Posted by themicah85
DALLAS TX
Member since Jul 2015
3501 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 5:29 pm to
quote:

Dude. It’s 2022 right now….. 1. 2020’s 2. 2010’s 3. 2000’s 4. 1990’s




Even using this ridiculous way of looking at things, you’re still wrong.

2020’s - current decade
2010’s - 1 decade ago, not 2.
2000’s - 2 decades ago
1990’s - 3 decades ago


I’m all for trolling Tennessee, but 4 decades is a ridiculous take. You should have stuck to the not in modern football argument. Or not this century, before the playoffs, before the iPhone, before any recruits were born, etc. There are a lot of options to take without having to make Irons Puppets level leaps in logic.


No shite. It really takes some straw grabbing to have an Alabama fan sticking up for Tennessee. We have provided them with so much shite talking with our embarrassing last 20 years and he has to try to make 24 years sound like 40. By his math lsu hasn't won a national championship in 2 decades and they really won 3 in that time frame.
Posted by VolNavy98
Tun Tavern
Member since Jul 2022
3853 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 5:49 pm to
2015 we tore your arse up. I see you mention the Chubb’s injury. But you forgot about the dirty arse play that ended Shy Tuttle season from your leg hummers. Tuttle was our starter and y’all took him out with dirty play. So excuse me if Chubbs getting hurt don’t bother me.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21222 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 5:54 pm to
Arkansas began the season ranked 18 in one poll and 20 in another. It began to crumble when Arkansas lost to Toledo 16-12. Arkansas had over 500 yards of total offense but could only score 10 points. The Texas Tech game was tied 21 in the second quarter but failed to score a TD in the third and fourth quarters, 35-24 final. Arkansas led 14-13 in the A&M game but they tied it up in the fourth quarter and Arkansas lost 28-21. Arkansas was 1-3 and Bert was catching hell, QB Brandon Allen was playing scared both overthrowing and underthrowing his passes. It was bad to the point that someone on one of news stations suggested that Allen be replaced.

Arkansas was behind 10-7 against Bama but they scored 17 points in the fourth quarter and won 27-14. The final loss was a 50-51 loss to state and instead of going for it on fourth and short, Bert decided to kick a FG with a unreliable kicker and thus as predicted was blocked. That game was such a waste because Brandon Allen had seven TDs and it cost Arkansas a trip to the Sugar Bowl and Ole Miss slide into second place in the West.

Both teams were undercoached. I don't know about Tennessee but this roster was pretty good for Arkansas.



Players drafted from that team and including players that were undrafted that made NFL rosters or practice squads.

TE Hunter Henry first round. Starter.
OL Frank Ragnow first round. Starter.
DL Deatrich Wise Jr. fourth round. Starter.
G Hjalte Froholdt fourth round. Active roster.
DE Jeremiah Ledbetter sixth round. Injured reserve.
DE Armon Watts sixth round. Active roster.
QB Brandon Allen sixth round. Active roster.
LB Dre Greenlaw fifth round. Starter.
RB Alex Collins fifth round. Active roster.
RB Jonathan Williams fifth round. Active roster.
OL Sebastian Tretola sixth round.
TE Jeremy Sprinkle fifth round. Active roster.
WR Keon Hatche undrafted but was on the practice squad for three years.
OL Dan Skipper was undrafted but currently active on a practice squad.
WR Cody Hollister was undrafted but currently on an active roster.
DE Mitchell Loewen was undrafted but stayed on NFL rosters for three years.
WR Drew Morgan was undrafted but led the SEC in receptions and was SEC 2nd team.






Posted by MrMojoRisin
Udûn
Member since May 2014
6979 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 5:56 pm to
quote:

It really takes some straw grabbing to have an Alabama fan sticking up for Tennessee.


Truth. Only time most Bama fans don’t pull against Tennessee is when they are playing auburn.
Posted by ptclaus98
Member since Dec 2014
1203 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 6:15 pm to
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TE Hunter Henry first round. Starter.
OL Frank Ragnow first round. Starter.
DL Deatrich Wise Jr. fourth round. Starter.
G Hjalte Froholdt fourth round. Active roster.
DE Jeremiah Ledbetter sixth round. Injured reserve.
DE Armon Watts sixth round. Active roster.
QB Brandon Allen sixth round. Active roster.
LB Dre Greenlaw fifth round. Starter.
RB Alex Collins fifth round. Active roster.
RB Jonathan Williams fifth round. Active roster.
OL Sebastian Tretola sixth round.
TE Jeremy Sprinkle fifth round. Active roster.
WR Keon Hatche undrafted but was on the practice squad for three years.
OL Dan Skipper was undrafted but currently active on a practice squad.
WR Cody Hollister was undrafted but currently on an active roster.
DE Mitchell Loewen was undrafted but stayed on NFL rosters for three years.
WR Drew Morgan was undrafted but led the SEC in receptions and was SEC 2nd team.


The same for us actually, 17 guys when you count Jalen Hurd and Preston Williams
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21222 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 6:31 pm to
Sam Pittman was on that staff. He left after the season when he supposedly had an argument with Bert. Bert was fired two years later.
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