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re: Butch Jones wasted so much opportunity

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Posted by ptclaus98
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 8/14/22 at 1:11 pm to
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Jones had to go after he failed to win the East in 15 or 16 and then when the wheels fell off in 17.


They think we should be happy with 4-8
Posted by ptclaus98
Member since Dec 2014
1203 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 1:12 pm to
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No they are facts.

No they are opinions
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 1:13 pm to
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That's still three decades though.


Tomato and tomahto

It’s #4 on the list.

Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64606 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 1:13 pm to
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Perhaps this means the ceiling has been lowered for the vols.

Perhaps Tennessee (and Florida) being bad has helped Georgia win more. Cuts both ways there, bud
Posted by ptclaus98
Member since Dec 2014
1203 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 1:15 pm to
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Florida and auburn and lsu have also underperformed during this time period, so let’s just limit this to uga and bama.



So have UGA and Alabama? The point is that it's been consistently lows for us because of mismanagement and incompetence at the administrative level. Tennessee's ceiling is the same as any other Big 6 school.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22343 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 1:15 pm to
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They think we should be happy with 4-8


I think you should expect a minimum of 7-8 wins, a 10 win season every 5-6 years, an SEC Championship every 10 years or so and an NC every 50 or so years. What you are happy with is up to you. That’s UT football history in a nutshell.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64606 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 1:15 pm to
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Anyone who considers Year 1 of the BCS to be 4 decades ago.

So people who consider 23 years to be 4 decades
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64606 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 1:16 pm to
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Dude. It’s 2022 right now….. 1. 2020’s 2. 2010’s 3. 2000’s 4. 1990’s

So you’d consider 3 years ago to be a decade ago? Interesting interpretation of the English language you have
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7141 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 1:17 pm to
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He was the mess.


with the only 9 win seasons (2 of them) in the last 15 years and won every bowl game they played in
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 8/14/22 at 1:18 pm to
If Butch Jones could develop talent like he could recruit. He would have three national championships by now.

Butch had no problem recruiting talent. He had no idea how to develop it. Then he surrounded himself with incompetent assistants.
This post was edited on 8/14/22 at 1:19 pm
Posted by ptclaus98
Member since Dec 2014
1203 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 1:18 pm to
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with the only 9 win seasons (2 of them) in the last 15 years and won every bowl game they played in


His firing saved him from posting the worst record in school history.
Posted by ptclaus98
Member since Dec 2014
1203 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 1:24 pm to
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If Butch Jones could develop talent like he could recruit. He would have three national championships by now.

Butch had no problem recruiting talent. He had no idea how to develop it. Then he surrounded himself incompetent assistants.



This is bullshite. He was a terrible recruiter who struck gold on some loaded in state/legacy classes. The 2016 class had Marquez Calloway and not a damn thing else and 2017 had Josh Palmer and Trey Smith and a bunch of complete duds. And Trey was coming no matter who the coach was. And these were the classes we got off those 9 win seasons. The veil had been lifted, he had been found out.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 1:26 pm to
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So you’d consider 3 years ago to be a decade ago?


2019 was undoubtedly in the 2010’s.
Posted by ptclaus98
Member since Dec 2014
1203 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 1:28 pm to
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I think you should expect a minimum of 7-8 wins, a 10 win season every 5-6 years, an SEC Championship every 10 years or so and an NC every 50 or so years. What you are happy with is up to you. That’s UT football history in a nutshell.


Newsflash, before 2005 that was everyone's history in a nutshell. We got bad at just the wrong time, but if Pete Carroll never leaves USCw, Kiffin has us in the SECCG in 2010 and who knows what the next 5 years would have looked like as outside of 2012 the East was wide open.
Posted by ptclaus98
Member since Dec 2014
1203 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 1:29 pm to
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2019 was undoubtedly in the 2010’s.
Which was last decade, but not a decade ago.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 1:31 pm to
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Which was last decade, but not a decade ago.


Potato potahto
Posted by ptclaus98
Member since Dec 2014
1203 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 1:34 pm to
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Potato potahto



But then it's still only been three decades. Which is a long time. But not 4 decades ago. Like you can surely admit that, right?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 1:39 pm to
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But then it's still only been three decades. Which is a long time. But not 4 decades ago. Like you can surely admit that, right?


Depends on if you consider the 90’s, 00’s, 10’s, and 20’s to be 4
different decades.
Posted by ptclaus98
Member since Dec 2014
1203 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 1:53 pm to
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Depends on if you consider the 90’s, 00’s, 10’s, and 20’s to be 4
different decades.


I'm gonna say this really slow for you because I guess Smokey's trolling has traumatized you so much you have brain scarring.

A decade is equal to ten years. Now if I said something happened in the last decade, if it wasn't ten years ago, it wasn't a decade ago. If I talk about something that happened in 2004, that would be almost two decades ago. But not two decades ago. Now 1997 was almost three decades(30 years) ago.


Event happens in 1998. Time passes and its now the 2000's. We are into a new decade. some more time passes and now we are in 2007. That event was last decade, but not a decade ago. Now its 2013 and we are in a new decade. We are in the second decade since the event. Now it's 2022, and we are in the third decade since that event.

Posted by VolNavy98
Tun Tavern
Member since Jul 2022
3853 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 2:09 pm to
He’s thinking about the 41 years between their championships. It’s not nice to make fun of retarded people. People like him you have to look past as their mental capacity is hindered.
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