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re: Breaking News: NCAA to allow players to be paid for names, images, likeness

Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:51 pm to
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:51 pm to
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Would this mean players can sleep on a coach's couch now?


Hell, a player will be able to get $$ for signing a fee jersey's or football's and pay momma's power bill without the help of the Opportunity Fund.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:53 pm to
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Maybe, maybe not. I think Texas will also have an advantage with the LHN, the same advantage that everyone was concerned about years ago

I didn’t say Texas
Texas is a CFB name brand

I’m talking about dog shite schools that are in big markets
They’re not going to turn into powerhouses
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:54 pm to
This is not going to end well.
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:55 pm to
Guess I will be free of my university fandom and I will only pull for teams that have won championships.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:55 pm to
Goodbye College Football. I've loved you for 40 years, but all good things must come to an end.
Posted by bamagreycoat
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:55 pm to
I don’t have disposable money but if I did can I offer to buy the autograph of some 5* recruit Bama is seeking? Or are the kids off limits until after they sign? This will be abused I’m sure but it’s hypocritical to tell ncaa athletes they can’t be capitalist pigs whilst everyone else in this country is one.
Posted by BigOrangeVols
Knoxville
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:56 pm to
Good point could definitely be a boost for TN and other states with no state income tax.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:58 pm to
It depends on a lot.

Already the NCAA has showed no spine, so it will definitely be more of a free market. It's like the portal - all you have to do to play the next year in the portal is lawyer up. I mean, there was definitely no legitimate reason for Martell, Fields, etc to start this year

They just hired lawyers, and the NCAA caved.

The really interesting question is what is it going to do to team dynamics? Playing time becomes incredibly important, and schools will be less able to stack talent because everyone wants to play and get some of that money
Posted by AUNashville
New Haven
Member since Jul 2014
3561 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:59 pm to
My guess in the NCAA will regulate it through the schools. There will be a cap amount per player, and any money made from image or likeness must be linked to the school. In other words, for a player to be paid, someone (say Coca-Cola) must go to the AD and say they want an athlete or athletes to be in a commercial. The athletes will then earn money from that, and it will be paid to them through the school. A player won't be allowed to independently profit from their image...it must be their image in relationship to the school they attend.

Although it sounds glamorous, I don't think Nike or whoever will be able to shell out 100k to a single player.

This just seems like adding yet more ways for teams to cheat or gain an advantage.

edited to add: I don't think this will end well, and I wouldn't be surprised if the NCAA comes back saying they couldn't find a feasible way to make this change happen.
This post was edited on 10/29/19 at 3:01 pm
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:01 pm to
Overnight they might not turn into powerhouses, but you have to think about purchasing power and market concentration.

20 Memphis businesses can pay their QB 5k to use in an advertisement and that's 100k.

it is going to be difficult to find 20 businesses in starkville to do the same it will have to extend outward across the state and that will be more difficult to execute than it would be in a big city
Posted by McMillan
Member since Jul 2018
5917 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:03 pm to
Too bad our two big cities don’t care about CFB, otherwise we would be raking.
This post was edited on 10/29/19 at 3:09 pm
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30243 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:06 pm to
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My guess in the NCAA will regulate it through the schools. There will be a cap amount per player, and any money made from image or likeness must be linked to the school. In other words, for a player to be paid, someone (say Coca-Cola) must go to the AD and say they want an athlete or athletes to be in a commercial. The athletes will then earn money from that, and it will be paid to them through the school. A player won't be allowed to independently profit from their image...it must be their image in relationship to the school they attend.

Although it sounds glamorous, I don't think Nike or whoever will be able to shell out 100k to a single player.

This just seems like adding yet more ways for teams to cheat or gain an advantage.

edited to add: I don't think this will end well, and I wouldn't be surprised if the NCAA comes back saying they couldn't find a feasible way to make this change happen.

Good post.

I personally can't see this providing any sense of parity for the sports it will no doubt affect in the future. The schools would have to add another Admin Dept just to handle the contracts and to keep track of the income generated by each student-athlete. Sounds like an administration and accounting nightmare.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14961 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:06 pm to
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Too bad our two big cities don’t care CFB, otherwise we would be raking.


So what about getting a better coach to do well with 3 stars players?
Posted by Luke
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:07 pm to
AUBURN = iphoneu
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:08 pm to
i'm gonna take a job at the IRS and audit your players every year.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20770 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:14 pm to
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My guess in the NCAA will regulate it through the schools. There will be a cap amount per player, and any money made from image or likeness must be linked to the school. In other words, for a player to be paid, someone (say Coca-Cola) must go to the AD and say they want an athlete or athletes to be in a commercial. The athletes will then earn money from that, and it will be paid to them through the school. A player won't be allowed to independently profit from their image...it must be their image in relationship to the school they attend.

Although it sounds glamorous, I don't think Nike or whoever will be able to shell out 100k to a single player.

This just seems like adding yet more ways for teams to cheat or gain an advantage.

edited to add: I don't think this will end well, and I wouldn't be surprised if the NCAA comes back saying they couldn't find a feasible way to make this change happen.


Good Post
Posted by AUNashville
New Haven
Member since Jul 2014
3561 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:14 pm to
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Good post. I personally can't see this providing any sense of parity for the sports it will no doubt affect in the future. The schools would have to add another Admin Dept just to handle the contracts and to keep track of the income generated by each student-athlete. Sounds like an administration and accounting nightmare.


I agree, it's going to affect the future and balance structure of college athletics in one way or another...perhaps in a way we cannot predict.

It really becomes complex when you begin to think about all the considerations.

One thing I thought of was how to set prices? Do players need to have their own agents or lawyers to work with companies and/or the school? Perhaps that can be done through the AD, but that again leads to more people schools need to hire in order to keep up with it all.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21951 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:19 pm to
One point I saw brought up on a different board is that this will be the end of the small market schools. Those with less than P5 budgets were already having a hard time competing, and with all the extra administration costs and staff this will bring, a lot of smaller schools will just close down athletic programs instead of dealing with the extra costs and headaches.

It will be the end of college sports, and only the big boys will compete in a NFL,NBA, MLB type of training league
This post was edited on 10/29/19 at 3:20 pm
Posted by CajunTiger_225
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
9202 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:19 pm to
So are you implying that A&m football is going to take funds from the school just to buy Louisiana players? About the only way what you said makes sense.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43823 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:19 pm to
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This just seems like adding yet more ways for teams to cheat or gain an advantage.


At the end of the day, this is what’s going to be most prevalent. People are up in arms about some programs supposedly cheating, so they’re pushing for changes thinking it will even the playing field but it’s really just going to make cheating that much easier to hide.

There are other issues of course, but this is the main one people will discuss.
This post was edited on 10/29/19 at 3:27 pm
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