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re: Breaking News: NCAA to allow players to be paid for names, images, likeness

Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:07 pm to
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:07 pm to
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Northwestern

Oh please

Northwestern isn’t getting good because of this
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:08 pm to
Northwestern has some seriously rich alumni
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:16 pm to
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They are going to have to revamp the transfer portal rules because now you'll get players transferring schools because one will legitimately be offering more money than the other.
"We notice LSU is only paying you $5k but we can offer you $15k if you transfer to Bama."



Agree. The rule change doesn't happen in a vacuum.
Posted by TwoDatBait
Northshore, LA
Member since Jul 2011
5730 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:16 pm to
Guess I’ll be liquidating my 401k and putting it all in dodge....
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:17 pm to
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Northwestern has some seriously rich alumni


So?
So do the Ivy League Schools

How much have they thrown at sports in the past?
Posted by CivilTiger83
Member since Dec 2017
2525 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:18 pm to
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Oh please Northwestern isn’t getting good because of this


They just built a $260 million football facility on Lake Michigan... they have the money to invest in a good football team and they appear to be willing to spend some money.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18157 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:18 pm to
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Hopefully they’re rules and guidelines to this
yes, universities will strip off all names from jerseys to avoid sharing revenue linked to direct endorsement of the player. Video games will be player #s and stats without mention of the players name for that season. Then, they will up the ante in trademark fees for any advertisement or apparel that endorses a player while wearing the school's trademarked logos and designs.

Players wearing street clothes or generic uniforms on your local car dealer ads is on the way.
Posted by Icoachfb
Greenville SC
Member since Jan 2019
1796 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:20 pm to
I mean it’s not necessarily going to be the ones with the most toys wins. They are only going to be able to profit off of likeness? So I’m not sure all starters are even going to profit on this. Maybe I’m missing something here
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21773 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:24 pm to
All 5* players get a head start on becoming rich. And there will definitely be a better distribution of those players now. Why go to Bama and sit on the bench, when you can go to Arkansas and be rich from Wal-Mart commercials and ads. For example

Some schools with rich alumni that support football are going to have an inherent advantage
Posted by Icoachfb
Greenville SC
Member since Jan 2019
1796 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:29 pm to
Yeah I get what you are saying and anything new will have to have some kinks worked out. Sure some schools are going to have an advantage but they do now. Not sure this is going to turn into the Wild Wild West.

Better be careful here of Title IX. As soon as a girl on the basketball team says she don’t have the same opportunity as a guy things could get interesting.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11827 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:35 pm to
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The IRS haven’t thought about that part good point. Government is going to get there share.


Oh yes the IRS has and are waiting for this to happen. Some players and their families might not like this with the new law in place since this will now all fall under taxable unearned income.

First look at scholarship alone as the athletes are receiving taxable income. Anything that pays for tuition and fees required for enrollment or attendance at the educational institution, or for fees, books, supplies, and equipment required for courses at the educational institution is not taxable but amounts used for incidental expenses, such as room and board, travel, and optional equipment has to be reported for gross income.

Now the concern with that currently is how kiddie tax is applied(students under the age of 24) which would be taxed as unearned income at the family rate if under $2100 but IIRC(new law in place this year) the new changes for anything taxable income which stipends and scholarship portions over 12+ got moved to a trust income tax rate of 37% which means getting paid for these likeness in the end they will get very little of it.

This is only the federal tax rate. College athletes in CA would be subject to an additional 13% tax. Other states will do the same as well. 50% is better then nothing but for athletes who for the majority are still claimed as dependents under their parents for tax purposes this could be a mess. Especially for other benefits for medical and what which will change household income amounts.
This post was edited on 10/29/19 at 2:38 pm
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21773 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:39 pm to
Oregon has Nike on their side. They will get anyone they want and sign them all to shoe and apparel deals. Yes, Oregon had those advantages, but everything was on the down low

Now it is all going to be allowed without cheating
Posted by TroyTider
Florida Panhandle
Member since Oct 2009
3760 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:41 pm to
Will prison time count towards their eligibility for those who don’t pay their taxes?

Will prison football teams become a thing again?

The Longest Yard III, coming soon to a theater near you.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:42 pm to
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They just built a $260 million football facility on Lake Michigan... they have the money to invest in a good football team and they appear to be willing to spend some money.

And Clemson and South Carolina have the same thing

But what does being in a big market matter?
You think Under Armor rather spend tons of money on a recruit and try and compete in Chicago with all the major professional teams they have now that already dominate their billboards by a mile?

Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:43 pm to
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Oregon has Nike on their side. They will get anyone they want and sign them all to shoe and apparel deals. Yes, Oregon had those advantages, but everything was on the down low

Now it is all going to be allowed without cheating

But why wouldn’t Nike also give money and do the exact same things to their established schools with National titles?
Like Bama LSU USC Clemson etc
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57683 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:44 pm to
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Hopefully they’re rules and guidelines to this
Like it will matter

It's gonna get dirty and convoluted very quickly. Not that the scene was clean before, but at least they can stop complaining now.


That is until the female athletes start bitching they make less.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:44 pm to
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I mean it’s not necessarily going to be the ones with the most toys wins. They are only going to be able to profit off of likeness? So I’m not sure all starters are even going to profit on this. Maybe I’m missing something here


As good as the 5 star is the school will help too
A 5 star Recruit will be able to make a lot more going to Alabama than Northwestern or Rutgers
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
24467 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:45 pm to
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If college athletes are going to make money off their likenesses while in school, their scholarships should be treated like income. I’ll be introducing legislation that subjects scholarships given to athletes who choose to “cash in” to income taxes.


Senator Richard Burr of North Carolina.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30588 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:48 pm to
It's waaaaay too early to being jumping to conclusions here. I suspect the NCAA's got a "game plan".
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21773 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:50 pm to
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As good as the 5 star is the school will help too
A 5 star Recruit will be able to make a lot more going to Alabama than Northwestern or Rutgers


Maybe, maybe not. I think Texas will also have an advantage with the LHN, the same advantage that everyone was concerned about years ago
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