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re: Biggest “What if’s” in the SEC regarding Football over the years.

Posted on 2/26/21 at 6:01 am to
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 6:01 am to
Nutt would still lose against State, lose to Tennessee in the SECCG and of course lose to a Big 10 team in the bowl. Nutt screwing good opportunities is in his blood. That is what frauds do.

Still lose. We couldn't throw the ball because Nutt refused to stick with his best QB and let him progress and instead stuck with a QB that had 13 yards passing against LSU. Also McFadden was hurt. Since it was a game full of pressure, Nutt would do something stupid and lose the game in the end.

Alabama goes to the SECCG.
This post was edited on 2/26/21 at 6:03 am
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 6:22 am to
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Nutt would still lose against State, lose to Tennessee in the SECCG and of course lose to a Big 10 team in the bowl. Nutt screwing good opportunities is in his blood. That is what frauds do.

Alabama goes to the SECCG.



Nutt could recruit some good players. But as I recall, the arky gridiron history there really hasn't been a lot to speak of since 1969.

A few years with Holtz and BAMA probably beat his best team in the Sugar Bowl in 1979-80. BAMA went undefeated that season and won the title. Other than that, maybe Petrino was your best coach, but he wasn't scaring BAMA or LSU with his style of play.
Posted by Globetrotter747
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 6:30 am to
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He wasn't a rock star at LSU either.

He was on that trajectory. Saban would have won a bushel of titles at LSU had he stayed. Everything Les Miles accomplished goes back to the foundation Saban built.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 6:36 am to
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He was on that trajectory. Saban would have won a bushel of titles at LSU had he stayed. Everything Les Miles accomplished goes back to the foundation Saban built.



He had 5 years to get on THAT trajectory. Those aren't rock star numbers. Les Miles had much the better first 5 seasons.

If you want to be a rock star you have to dominate the schedule. Time as the #1 team and the overall regular-season record should pass the smell test. They just don't in BR.

Posted by dstone12
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 6:45 am to
What if west va didn’t choke against Pitt?
Posted by ptclaus98
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 6:55 am to
OH MAN

The what ifs are literally endless.

Fulmer era

What if Travis Stephens holds on to the football and John Chavis knew the concept of an LB spy in 2001

What if Erik Ainge doesn't break his collarbone in 2004

What if Erik Ainge doesn't get injured in 2006

What if Tennessee scores instead of the pick six in 2007

I'd argue that the first and last of those would have kept him here until he broke Neyland's win record and retired, hopefully into the sunset never to be seen or heard from again.

Kiffin era

Daniel Lincoln. I'll just leave it at that.

What if Carroll stays another year?

Kiffin would have won the East in 2010. Fight me.


Dooley era

What if Vince had pulled out?


Jones Era

What if his entire lineage was wiped out 300 years ago?

Pruitt Era

What if Jarrett Guarantano never touched a football in his life? I mean, we still wouldn't have been great but man I'd never have had to have seen him play football and that's enough for me.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 6:58 am to
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What if 2012 UF doesn't fumble inside the five vs Georgia.


Still would have had to get a 2PC just to get to overtime. Considering how well the UGA pass rush was playing that day, it wouldn't have been a guarantee.
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 6:59 am to
For Arkansas....

What if Arkansas beats LSU in 1965 seasons Cotton Bowl?

What if Arkansas holds the lead against Texas in 1969’s Game of the Century?

What if Arkansas hires Jimmy Johnson instead of Ken Hatfield?

What if Clint Stoerner doesn’t fumble against Tennessee in 1998?

What if Arkansas lets the punt bounce into the end zone against Florida in 2006 SEC Championship?

What if Arkansas holds 4th quarter leads against Alabama and Auburn in 2010?
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 7:00 am to
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What if west va didn’t choke against Pitt?


This is the single biggest "what if" of at least the last 25 years in college football. The domino effect from that game is staggering.

ETA: I'll start with this. I believe Herbstreit's Miles to Michigan report was accurate. Ohio State had their spot locked in the title game at that point. While Missouri was ranked #1, they were something like a 9 point underdog to Oklahoma so everyone knew they were going to lose. The assumption was that OSU would play WVU in the title game (which WVU would have won by several touchdowns). Coaches don't leave for other jobs when they're preparing for a national title game. The assumption was that LSU would be in the Sugar Bowl at best. Pitt beating WVU threw a monkey wrench into everything because it was so unexpected. It sent LSU to the title game and Miles had to stay. Michigan went and got RichRod instead.
This post was edited on 2/26/21 at 7:45 am
Posted by ArmydawgMD
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 7:05 am to
2007-what if UK didn’t miss a chip shot fg to beat Tennessee

UGA into the SEC championship game and they were beating anyone they played
Posted by Hback
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 7:05 am to
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OH MAN

The what ifs are literally endless.

Fulmer era


What if UT converted the 2-point conversion attempt against South Carolina in '92 and won the game instead of being stopped short and losing? Would Majors have been sacked the following week, and would there even have been a Fulmer era?
Posted by ptclaus98
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 7:10 am to
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What if UT converted the 2-point conversion attempt against South Carolina in '92 and won the game instead of being stopped short and losing? Would Majors have been sacked the following week, and would there even have been a Fulmer era?


shite, I didn't go back that far but I'd take no title in 98 for just 4-5 more years of Johnny, tbh.
Posted by macjonesgoat
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 7:10 am to
"What if" Tom "Roll Tide" Ritter had never worked for the REC?
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 7:14 am to
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What if we had hired Kirby because Richt talked UGA into giving him another year?


The ripple effect from Aaron Murray's tipped pass on the last play of the 2012 SECCG. IF the pass is completed UGA probably plays and beats ND in NC game and it probably buys Richt more time at UGA.
Posted by geauxcoco
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Member since Apr 2007
11023 posts
Posted on 2/26/21 at 7:27 am to
What if the OK State plane in 2011 doesn’t go down w/ their AD in it? Okie ST proceeded to lose to a 5 td underdog with a missed FG just a tad off, the next weekend. That’s OK State vs LSU in that natty instead...if that plane doesn’t go down. Crazy.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 7:32 am to
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What if the OK State plane in 2011 doesn’t go down w/ their AD in it? Okie ST proceeded to lose to a 5 td underdog with a missed FG just a tad off, the next weekend. That’s OK State vs LSU in that natty instead...if that plane doesn’t go down. Crazy.




Oklahoma State and West Virginia playing what ifs?

The laws of Football DNA are much bigger than some silly what if.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 7:47 am to
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What if the OK State plane in 2011 doesn’t go down w/ their AD in

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That’s OK State vs LSU in that natty instead...if that plane doesn’t go down. Crazy.


Dumbest shite ever typed. Worst narrative that has ever been spun to excuse a loss, aside from the fact that it was the women's BB coach and an assistant that were tragically lost and not the AD.

It was sad, and it had a lot of scar tissue rip open from the 2001 crash for fans and admins who had been around long enough. And, some of the coaching staff were likely emotionally effected.. However, oSU got caught overlooking an opponent, nothing more.
This post was edited on 2/26/21 at 7:52 am
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 7:59 am to
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He had 5 years to get on THAT trajectory. Those aren't rock star numbers. Les Miles had much the better first 5 seasons.

What trajectory was Alabama on at that time? How was Alabama doing in the early '00s? Alabama was a dumpster fire when Saban got there.

Les Miles is a little better version of Larry Coker. His predecessor left the program on the cusp of a dynasty and he rode it to a national title and some short term success.

There's not a person on this board who thinks that if Nick Saban stays at LSU from 2005-2020 that he doesn't far exceed whatever Alabama would have accomplished with whoever the hell else they would have hired in 2007.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 8:01 am to
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What trajectory was Alabama on at that time? How was Alabama doing in the early '00s? Alabama was a dumpster fire when Saban got there.



They were beating the rock star 31 to 0 in Baton Rouge with some guy named Dennis Franchione.
Posted by sofladawg
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 8:06 am to
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