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re: Best offensive line in SEC history?

Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:46 am to
Posted by TiderNAL
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:46 am to
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2012 A&M was better


Posted by TiderNAL
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:48 am to
quote:

2011 LSU OL was dominant.


Posted by mistaken4193
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 9:02 am to
I always thought Nick Marshalls speed and ability to turn the corner on the read option widened the Linebackers out and opened up the inside for Mason.

That 2013 AU offense was a masterpiece, im shocked Gustav hasnt gotten a QB with a similar skill set as Marshall to run that read option offense. I guess that backup they got now is that guy.
Posted by Beerad
Texas
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 9:03 am to
But he’s not wrong. All 5 have played in the nfl and 3 are still starting.

Remind me what team beat Bama in 2012?
Posted by mistaken4193
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 9:04 am to
Notre Dames defense didnt allow a rushing TD all year before that game... Lacy walked in on the 1st drive. And we ran at will on them.
Posted by Beerad
Texas
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 9:05 am to
Notre Dame was overrated as frick in 2012. May be the most overrated team in recent history.
Posted by coachcrisp
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 9:17 am to
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That yardage total was the most anyone in the SEC or the P5 rushed for against you all year. By well over 40%. Oh and by the way, you’re wrong. There weren’t “numerous,” sacks. Upshaw had one. That’s it. But nice ambiguous pull one out of your arse type response. I love it when someone uses bullshite ambiguity when they don’t even recall or are too damn lazy to look up the stats to see if their recollection is accurate. Especially when trying to talk down to folks.

Be content-and humble enough-with absolutely whipping our arse thanks to one of the worst coaching performances of all time in a championship setting on the part of our former Head Coach and having the greatest coach of all time on this level on your sideline. We went 13-1 and crushed everyone but you, and even still we beat you on the road in an epic, hard fought war of a game. If anything I’m both inferring and literally saying that it took an even better, far more well coached team to do what your team did to us.

Just because we didn’t win a national title, you dumbasses forget we did actually beat you while beating the dogshit out of every other team on our schedule.

I’d say a team that’s beat three separate P5 Conference Champions and BCS Bowl Game Winners along either the eventual National Champion on their way to a Conference Championship and a berth in the National Title Game while averaging over 200 yards per contest against those teams, amongst 9 ranked opponents and considering the performance in NOLA took away a huge chunk of that average was absolutely dominant.

We were not National Champs. But that doesn’t exclude the OL from being dominant.

But tell me more ambiguous stats using nebulous terms like, “numerous.” Dumbass.

Stop making this about putting someone down and making your team look better. Your team won a national title. They literally cannot look any better.

What LSU did to Teams on their schedule that year had never been done before, and we did it with a dominant OL without a tailback who went for 1,000 yards no less. That took a dominant OL.

Now that was a melt!
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 9:24 am to
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I remember when BuccWild proclaimed him to be a future 10 time All-Pro when he got drafted.


To be fair, a lot of guys that get paid for their opinion on scouting said Warmack was the best guard prospect they had seen in a long time. It happens.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 9:50 am to
Alabama 2005
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 9:54 am to
Besides Bama's 2012 line, I'd suggest Arkie's line with Shawn Andrews.
Posted by GFunk
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 10:23 am to
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TiderNAL


The humorous thing about your gif isn’t that it proves or disproves the quoted text. It’s that it includes perhaps the worst quarterback to ever start in a National Title Game. One we all went Chernobyl re: when we wouldn’t bench him for playing like crap.

A situation you found yourselves in just week or two ago. Which to his unlimited credit your coach made a fantastic move to try and put up a fight. A move that in many eyes, doomed our former Head Coach when he didn’t make it.

OL play can help a weak QB and make a good QB look great. But I think we can all agree there was nothing short of divine intervention that could help JJ9 as a passing quarterback.

Which doesn’t detract from our OL performance that year.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 10:34 am to
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LittleJerrySeinfield


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To be fair, a lot of guys that get paid for their opinion on scouting said Warmack was the best guard prospect they had seen in a long time. It happens.


To be fair, Todd McShay was a radio show host in Boston who had-literally-no player evaluation, NFL Draft, or even professional level journalism experience prior to being hired by ESPN to, “become,” their new NFL Draft analyst.

They conjured his career out of thin air. “Litrallee”.

I will say that McShay is responsible for a huge contribution to ESPN in helping Ryen Rusillo get his big break by connecting him to the graveyard shifts on ESPN Radio. Who himself was a former Bahstuhn Bahtinduh.

My point: While NFL Types were sold on him, a lot of that was smoke and media mirrors so to speak. Meanwhile, a RS Soph like Trai Turner, a low level recruit out of NOLA signed as a 3rd Round pick and is a 3 time Pro Bowler in 4 years, starting 54/58 career games for Carolina as an interior Offensive Lineman.
This post was edited on 1/18/18 at 10:35 am
Posted by bubba35741
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 10:42 am to
Any of them at Alabama that Big John Hannah was on...
Posted by SanAntoneAg
Alamo City
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 10:46 am to
2012 A&M OL beat that bama arse.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 10:49 am to
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coachcrisp



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Now that was a melt!


Damn right! Think about accomplishing everything we did that year, including going on the road and slugging it out with y’all and coming out with a W...and then...you almost have to forget about it. You can’t bow your chest out without people-literally-making shite up and throwing gifs in your face.

I went to the Oregon Game in DFW. I was in NOLA for 010912. Was at every home game in-between. I pray no fanbase ever experiences a performance like that. As a fan, it was terrible.

I still remember catching the Canal Street Trolley Line away from the Dome (Pro Tip if you ever wanna get out of that area postgame quick, the Trolley Line is a no brainer). We had the Alabama Mens Swimming & Diving Team on the Trolley with us. Struck up a convo with the kids (who were incredibly gracious and respectful BTW). They were shocked we didn’t even try to do anything else. No moreso than we were of course.

But we did take solace in realizing others saw that epic, astoundingly pathetic, lifeless performance out of our coaching staff.

So melt? frick yeah. shite will sting for a long while. For me anyway.
This post was edited on 1/18/18 at 10:52 am
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 10:52 am to
You listed one guy. There were more. The dude on the NFL network was another who loved Warmack, and he knows his stuff. Nothing was out of thin out, Warmack dominated in college and has struggled in the league. Like I said, it happens.
This post was edited on 1/18/18 at 10:55 am
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 10:55 am to
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Alabama 2005


Chris Capps was elite. IYAM. IMO.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 10:58 am to
2012 A&M

Luke Joeckel = Outland Trophy, All American, 1st round, #2 overall pick
Jake Matthews = 2x All American, 1st round, #6 overall pick
Cedric Ogbuehi = All American, 1st round, 21st overall pick
Jarvis Harrison = 5th round, limited NFL career
Patrick Lewis = undrafted, was multi-year starter for Seahawks

I would say this is a pretty strong group.
Posted by FourThreeForty
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 11:03 am to
Then how did such a fantastic team lose 2 games (to mediocre at best teams mind you offensively) with a super incredible o-line, a heisman winner at QB and an all American at WR?

Sorry, but by that metric alone, the A&M line is out of the discussion.
This post was edited on 1/18/18 at 11:04 am
Posted by TroyTider
Florida Panhandle
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 12:31 pm to
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2012 Bama: LT Cyrus Kouandjio (All-American and 1st team SEC in 2013, NFL tackle now) LG Chance Warmack (All-American and 1st team SEC 2012, NFL guard now) C Barrett Jones (Outland winner, Rimington winner, All-American and first team SEC 2011 and 2012) RG Anthony Steen (2nd team SEC 2013, NFL center) RT DJ Fluker (All-American and 1st team SEC 2012, NFL tackle)


Jones also started at 3 different positions on the Bama OL.
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