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Being realistic here, with Texas & Oklahoma coming in,

Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:07 pm
Posted by MullenBoys
In the minds of Ole Miss fans
Member since Apr 2014
13673 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:07 pm
Both have great football history. How many years does it take in the SEC grind to admit " This grind is a lot harder than we thought" ?

Year 3? Thats what I'm thinking.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
8049 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:14 pm to
Texas has been below average since 2010. Even their Sugar Bowl year of 2018, they had 3 conference losses. To think they are going to come into the SEC and do better conference wise is highly unlikely.

OU is more interesting. They have dominated the Big 12 for years. They have only lost more than 2 games overall once in ten years. They have a lot further to fall, but I can see them being a problem in the conference.
This post was edited on 9/14/22 at 2:15 pm
Posted by Cooterlane
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2022
1409 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:15 pm to
They will both be fine.
Posted by NFLSU
Screwston, Texas
Member since Oct 2014
16626 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:21 pm to
Not only will there be a massive talent difference, both OU and Texas are leaving their weak away-game environments behind in the Big 12.

Since they play each other at a neutral site every year, their ideas of tough road environments are Texas Tech and WVU. Neither of them have played in multiple away games in the same season where the visitor stadium exceeds 100,000 capacity.

You saw what happened last year when Texas played at Arkansas. That game was over before it started.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
7999 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:23 pm to
Here’s the thing. Every conference is a grind because the teams in that conference have to play a majority of games vs said teams. Teams build their rosters to get through the conf grind no matter what.

Then you have playoffs. The reason SEC has done great in playoffs is because the other conferences are built differently - the SEC top teams are defense oriented.

I think most would agree with over a month to prepare for playoffs this favors defense over offense. Easier to slow down an offense. OU had some of the most prolific offenses ever and yet had a crappy D. That did them in in playoffs.

Going foward OU is gearing up for defense and brought in Venables and Roof and some other specialty defensive coaches. They will have a much better balance going in.

Once you get past the top 2-4 SEC teams its similar to other conferences where the rest can beat you on any given Saturday but are not top teams.

So in one way I agree it’ll be a grind but in another its already a grind based on conf and how teams are constructed. The biggest adjustment is if due to these big conferences you will play conf games right out of the gate. Way less popcorn states for everyone to start the year and work out kinks. Thats going to be for all teams not just OU.

Conferences go in cycles too, I recall the Big 12 South had the best division in college for a spell.

OU won’t win as much for sure. And the games will be exciting. New venues, new traditions to learn. New rivalries. I look forward to it.
This post was edited on 9/14/22 at 2:28 pm
Posted by umop sujoH
Member since Jul 2021
132 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:27 pm to
While I certainly don't think OU will dominate the SEC like they have the Big 12, especially like when they won 6 CCs in a row, I do hope we are competing for championships regularly.

It's going to take a little more depth overall and a rebuild of the defense. It's very early in the BV era, but he does seem to have the team on that path with his recruiting and the defensive changes.

I'm not big on making predictions, but what's already been implemented since Riley left has me far more optimistic than I was a year ago.
Posted by Sooners2050
Member since Jul 2022
29 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:30 pm to
I look at A&M in year one with Manziel that were dominate, year two had 4 loses Manziel’s last year then year three was when it kicked in
Posted by Hornish Kin
Member since Jul 2022
144 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:31 pm to
I’m concerned the SEC underestimates Texas’ ability to come in and compete immediately. Predictions on this board about the Texas/Ala game now seem silly, in light of what we saw on Saturday. Ala’s team didn’t suddenly change. It is the same team that everyone said was so great. And it may be a great team. It beat Texas by a point with a load of help.
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
12061 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:35 pm to
Last year everyone was ready to crown Florida champs in the east because they played a close game with Bama.

Can you spell Gasparilla Bowl?
Posted by Sooners2050
Member since Jul 2022
29 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:35 pm to
The players are gonna feel different with the grind of the SEC compared to the BIG 12 because they’re not use it like that.
Posted by weremoose
Member since Nov 2015
4159 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:35 pm to
They'll never admit it.

See Texas 8&4
Posted by umop sujoH
Member since Jul 2021
132 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:35 pm to
While I have to admit that I thought it likely that Bama would roll Texas, I also know that Texas has the talent, that if they're fired up for a big opponent, they can hang with anybody.

I've seen it far too many times in the Cotton Bowl in October.
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
10911 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:36 pm to
This entire board was predicting Bama by at least 3TDs and they barely escaped with their lives last Saturday and could've lost by 2TDs themselves.

Are you people sure your perspective is realistic and not just an extension of your own egos which are emotionally tied to your conference identity?
This post was edited on 9/14/22 at 2:39 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22539 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

Both have great football history. How many years does it take in the SEC grind to admit " This grind is a lot harder than we thought" ?

Year 3? Thats what I'm thinking.




There is limited success in conference. In the end, it won't be any different, only the names will have changed. Where they end up in the order remains to be seen, but it's not going to make the grind harder.

The only thing that would make it harder is going from an 8 to a 9 game conference. Which is dumb, but more likely. Still that would be the case even if we didn't add Texas and Oklahoma. It's dumb because again, success in conference is limited. All conference games come out to .500 and it just makes the conferences overall record biased close to .500.

We saw what happened in 2020. SEC teams were extremely under ranked due to records. Then they go into bowl games and you get "top 15" ranked teams losing to .500 SEC teams badly.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22539 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

This entire board was predicting Bama by at least 3TDs and they barely escaped with their lives last Saturday and could've lost by 2TDs themselves.

Are you people sure your perspective is realistic and not just an extension of your own egos which are emotionally tied to your conference?



Nobody thinks it's because Texas is that great. It's because Alabama played poorly.

Not to mention, without help from the refs Texas isn't even remotely in this game. Blame it on Alabama or whatever, but it was either Alabama being sloppy, or refs being bad. Either way, nobody is thinking Texas is great as a result of Alabama's penalties.
This post was edited on 9/14/22 at 2:40 pm
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
10911 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

Nobody thinks it's because Texas is that great. It's because Alabama played poorly.


Oh please....

quote:

Not to mention, without help from the refs Texas isn't even remotely in this game. Blame it on Alabama or whatever, but it was either Alabama being sloppy, or refs being bad.


This is delusional happy talk.
This post was edited on 9/14/22 at 2:41 pm
Posted by Sooners2050
Member since Jul 2022
29 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:40 pm to
Yeah I’ve noticed they’ll get up for big time games like Alabama and OU in Dallas but after that they just drop off from there
Posted by jiminAZ
QUEEN CREEK
Member since Jul 2021
144 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:46 pm to
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They'll never admit it.

See Texas 8&4


Three things OU does not do.

1) Talk about recruiting champions. That is covered by two teams in Texas

2) Talk a lot about what they are going to do in the future. Again that is covered by the Texas schools

3) Give excuses when we lose. We lose because a team plays better than OU, at least in that game.

Never, ever compare us to the texas schools.
Posted by Floki
Member since Nov 2020
920 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:47 pm to
Texas may be coming in at just the perfect time for them. They have a good OL and Billy Ray Cyrus looks like a top 3 in NCAA QB. Similar to when A&M joined.

If they would have joined any time in the last 12 years there would be two Texas 8&4 teams.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29449 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:50 pm to
Texas and OU always play well against teams when they get weeks or months to plan for 1 game.

Texas has had Alabama and Oklahoma circled all off-season. Alabama has had every SEC school plus Texas circled all off-season.
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